I hope Chrysler drops the Crossfire soon...
I purchased my Crossfire because there are so few affordable two seater sport cars with an American brand name... let me name one or two that can be purchased at a reasonable price... Ok so I can't, because there are none. hooah
I hope that Chrysler drops the Crossfire line in the next couple of years. And you ask why? Because my coupe will be worth every dime I paid for it, I can keep it for the next ten years and get more then I purchased it for, and what a rare car it will be. Yes what an investment, but now Chrysler has got to come through for me. I can recall the days of the Cobra, Sting Ray, and 50's Thunderbird. Look what those are worth now.
Come on Chrysler do what all auto makers do, build a great two seater sports car, that people would love to own, and enjoy looking at, then drop the line.
Please do it for me. hooah
I hope that Chrysler drops the Crossfire line in the next couple of years. And you ask why? Because my coupe will be worth every dime I paid for it, I can keep it for the next ten years and get more then I purchased it for, and what a rare car it will be. Yes what an investment, but now Chrysler has got to come through for me. I can recall the days of the Cobra, Sting Ray, and 50's Thunderbird. Look what those are worth now.
Come on Chrysler do what all auto makers do, build a great two seater sports car, that people would love to own, and enjoy looking at, then drop the line.
Please do it for me. hooah
Last edited by FirebaseD; Dec 5, 2005 at 10:39 AM.
Originally Posted by patpur
Man that's a bad Pacino impression.
Pat
Pat
hooah/ooh-aaarh
(hooah) Battle cry of the Army Grunt, often is barked when troops want to voice approval or a sense of esprit de corps. Its full meaning is primal and difficult to define, for it also echoes the hardships faced by those in uniform.
(Ooh-rah) comes from the places in our hearts that only Marines understand. It is conceived in sweat, nurtured with drill. It is raw determination and gut-wrenching courage in the face of adversity. It is a concern for fellow Marines embodied by selfless acts of heroism. It cannot be administrated. It is not planned and put into action. It cannot be manufactured. Ooh-rah must be purchased. Ooh-rah is Marine.
Last edited by FirebaseD; Nov 22, 2005 at 02:43 AM.
And once again we are all reminded at just how much a sense of humor is so sorely lacking on this web site, by so many.
To be honest Marine, over the years, I've worked with dozens of Marine Vietnam vet's and I really can't recall ever hearing any of them shout "hooah" in a normal conversation.
Frankly, I never saw the movie that Al Pacino used that expression in either, but when I read your post, that was the first thing that popped into my head too.
Anyway, not being a Marine myself, I always kind of wondered exactly what it meant, and you gave us all an excellent explanation. Thanks.
To be honest Marine, over the years, I've worked with dozens of Marine Vietnam vet's and I really can't recall ever hearing any of them shout "hooah" in a normal conversation.
Frankly, I never saw the movie that Al Pacino used that expression in either, but when I read your post, that was the first thing that popped into my head too.
Anyway, not being a Marine myself, I always kind of wondered exactly what it meant, and you gave us all an excellent explanation. Thanks.
Originally Posted by ben47
Once again, DC has a 5 year contract with Karmman to build the Crossfire. That would take it to the 2008 model year.
Originally Posted by +fireamx
And once again we are all reminded at just how much a sence of humor is so sorely lacking on this web site, by so many.
To be honest Marine, over the years, I've worked with dozens of Marine Vietnam vet's and I really can't recall ever hearing any of them shout "hooah" in a normal conversation.
To be honest Marine, over the years, I've worked with dozens of Marine Vietnam vet's and I really can't recall ever hearing any of them shout "hooah" in a normal conversation.
Pat - I did not mean my reply in a bad way, and I edited it to prove it to you. I only meant it as to say I'm not a make believe kinda guy.
Fireamx - As for soldiers and marines shouting hooah/oohrad your right on the money. They are not words that would be randomly shouted out, but both words are used in low tones of verbal expression. Example... "this is great chow...hooah?" notice the small lettering. As for Vietnam I cannot recall ever shouting out the word, nor hearing any other Marine use it... go figure. Later in the Corps yes, as for my time in the 82nd it was a constant.
Back on subject... hooah lol
Last edited by FirebaseD; Nov 22, 2005 at 02:51 AM.
Well I'm glad we got that all cleared up in short order. Just for the record FirebaseD, which Marine are you in the photo that you posted? (just so we'll know who too look out for in the future) LOL. What was the date of the photo?
I see you haven't been on the forum for very long, Welcome Aboard!
I see you haven't been on the forum for very long, Welcome Aboard!
Let me name one or two affordable American two seaters that are stylish and fun to drive. Saturn Sky and Pontiac Solstice. Let me name a few more that might have more than two seats, but offer a thrilling drive at a reasonable price: Mustang GT and (Australian made, American-branded) Pontiac GTO.
Then again, the Crossfire is really not an American car. It is built by a German-owned company, in Germany. I think North American content was less than two percent on my coupe. Without yet again arguing whether a PT Cruiser made in Mexico or a Crossfire made in Germany is more American than, say, an Accord made in Ohio, let's just assume that borders don't really matter in the auto industry (because there is a lot of ambiguity there). If we include cars from other countries on our shopping list (as we did when we bought our Crossfires), then there is a Mazda Miata, Nissan 350Z, Toyota MR2 Spyder, Mazda RX-8 (a four seater), etc.
Slightly used Corvettes, Audi TT, Porsche Boxters, and many others also creep into the same price bracket as the Crossfire. Basically, the point I am trying to make is that the Crossfire coupe is very far from being the "only game in town" for $29 - 34K (list). I too hope it is discontinued ASAP, probably when the contract expires in 2008. But I want it gone for very different reasons. I think it should be pulled off the market while it is still well regarded by the motor press and public. It's competitive now, but can you imagine selling this same car with its blocky interior styling, lack of telematics, 215 hp, and recirculating ball steering gear past 2008? After that, it will truly be an ancient car, as the basic architecture already owes more to the mid-90's than it does to 2005. I say, let it die with glory. Don't drag it out like Alfa did for several decades with its ancient Spider.
Finally, though it may someday be a classic, with 60K made to date and dealers cutting hefty deals to move the iron (which in turn sux the value out of your new car), this car has a long ways to go towards appreciating. If you bought it as an investment, I hope you are a patient person. It might take a good thirty years to break even on it. My advice? Drive it, enjoy it, and take care of it. If you want a solid investment, you wouldn't go wrong dumping the same kind of cash into mutual funds.
Then again, the Crossfire is really not an American car. It is built by a German-owned company, in Germany. I think North American content was less than two percent on my coupe. Without yet again arguing whether a PT Cruiser made in Mexico or a Crossfire made in Germany is more American than, say, an Accord made in Ohio, let's just assume that borders don't really matter in the auto industry (because there is a lot of ambiguity there). If we include cars from other countries on our shopping list (as we did when we bought our Crossfires), then there is a Mazda Miata, Nissan 350Z, Toyota MR2 Spyder, Mazda RX-8 (a four seater), etc.
Slightly used Corvettes, Audi TT, Porsche Boxters, and many others also creep into the same price bracket as the Crossfire. Basically, the point I am trying to make is that the Crossfire coupe is very far from being the "only game in town" for $29 - 34K (list). I too hope it is discontinued ASAP, probably when the contract expires in 2008. But I want it gone for very different reasons. I think it should be pulled off the market while it is still well regarded by the motor press and public. It's competitive now, but can you imagine selling this same car with its blocky interior styling, lack of telematics, 215 hp, and recirculating ball steering gear past 2008? After that, it will truly be an ancient car, as the basic architecture already owes more to the mid-90's than it does to 2005. I say, let it die with glory. Don't drag it out like Alfa did for several decades with its ancient Spider.
Finally, though it may someday be a classic, with 60K made to date and dealers cutting hefty deals to move the iron (which in turn sux the value out of your new car), this car has a long ways to go towards appreciating. If you bought it as an investment, I hope you are a patient person. It might take a good thirty years to break even on it. My advice? Drive it, enjoy it, and take care of it. If you want a solid investment, you wouldn't go wrong dumping the same kind of cash into mutual funds.
Last edited by juddz; Nov 22, 2005 at 09:45 AM.
Originally Posted by ben47
^^^^ Well said with one exception, I wouldn't exactly call a car like the Mustang GT or a Pontiac GTO a "thrilling" ride.
^^^
I never said they were boring or slow, just not thrilling. But now that you mention it, they are kind of boring when you see one on just about every corner and yes, faster in a straight line but what's the fun in that compared to "driving" a road course?
I never said they were boring or slow, just not thrilling. But now that you mention it, they are kind of boring when you see one on just about every corner and yes, faster in a straight line but what's the fun in that compared to "driving" a road course?
Originally Posted by +fireamx
Just for the record FirebaseD, which Marine are you in the photo that you posted? (just so we'll know who too look out for in the future) LOL. What was the date of the photo?
Thanks for the hello, and it is my pleasure to be allowed to linkup and hang out with you guys and girls.
hooah
Last edited by FirebaseD; Nov 22, 2005 at 02:28 PM.
So lets say 15 years on, 2020, a used car dealer has an SRT6 , Coupe and a Roadster, all very good with 20K miles. Relative to purchase which is worth more? I would say the SRT6 and I would still want to buy the Coupe.
Originally Posted by malcb
So lets say 15 years on, 2020, a used car dealer has an SRT6 , Coupe and a Roadster, all very good with 20K miles. Relative to purchase which is worth more? I would say the SRT6...
Originally Posted by juddz
Let me name one or two affordable American two seaters that are stylish and fun to drive. Saturn Sky and Pontiac Solstice. Let me name a few more that might have more than two seats, but offer a thrilling drive at a reasonable price: Mustang GT and (Australian made, American-branded) Pontiac GTO.
Then again, the Crossfire is really not an American car. It is built by a German-owned company, in Germany.
Slightly used Corvettes, Audi TT, Porsche Boxters, and many others also creep into the same price bracket as the Crossfire. Basically, the point I am trying to make is that the Crossfire coupe is very far from being the "only game in town" for $29 - 34K (list).
If you want a solid investment, you wouldn't go wrong dumping the same kind of cash into mutual funds.
Then again, the Crossfire is really not an American car. It is built by a German-owned company, in Germany.
Slightly used Corvettes, Audi TT, Porsche Boxters, and many others also creep into the same price bracket as the Crossfire. Basically, the point I am trying to make is that the Crossfire coupe is very far from being the "only game in town" for $29 - 34K (list).
If you want a solid investment, you wouldn't go wrong dumping the same kind of cash into mutual funds.
Saturn Sky and Pontiac Solstice, so what?, this is a concept car.
Mustang GT and Pontiac GTO are not concept or two seaters. Old Mustang and GTO is worth more today then they were back in the 60's and early 70's... price one.
Corvettes, Audi TT, Porsche Boxters - Out of those three only the Vette is an American brand name automobile brother, and I done see a concept car listed under either one of the three...
mutual funds - can you drive it???
An as far as the SRT6, let me tell you something brother, it's still a six cylinder just like the one I got. Big deal it has a turbo, does it sound like a V8, can it thunder, can it pen you to the front seat like a 426 hemi, 427 six pack chevy, 429 Boss ford? I bet not, when people look at cars for performance they look for engine size. So you see this little coupe will be worth as much as any other Crossfire in the next ten years.
Let me say it again - Chrysler needs to stop making the Crossfire within the next two years for me to come out on this car... if they don't then all bets are off.
hooah
Malcb, To answer your question, coupe or roadster, I'd have to say the roadster will bring more money nearly every time, very few exceptions. But there are some.(like the Viper for instance) But I also agree that the SRT coupe will probably be worth more than a Limited roadster in the future. (still, I prefer the coupe too, with a 6 spd.) An SRT Roadster will probably be the one to have.
And guy's, some of you probably will disagree with me, but even though it only comes with an automatic, I'd still have to bet on the SRT-6 being the most wanted 15 yrs. from now, over a Limited 6spd.
I look at it this way, which is worth more now, a 1969 Super Bee 440 6 pack, automatic, or a '69 Super Bee 383, 4 spd.? Nearly identical cars (except for cosmetics) but like the crossfire, one has alot more H.P., one is alot more common than the other, and one is more than a second quicker in the 1/4 mile.
Firebase, it may not be a V8, but bone stock the SRT-6 turns 13.3 in the 1/4 mi. and tops out at over 150 mph+ on the high end. I don't think any "stock" Hemi Cuda. Boss 429, or Tri-Power 435 hp. Vette. did that off the show room floor.
But You're absolutely right. It'll never sound as good as those big "Honkin" V8's did.
(by the way Firebase, thanks for the photo, we'll all be looking for ya)
And guy's, some of you probably will disagree with me, but even though it only comes with an automatic, I'd still have to bet on the SRT-6 being the most wanted 15 yrs. from now, over a Limited 6spd.
I look at it this way, which is worth more now, a 1969 Super Bee 440 6 pack, automatic, or a '69 Super Bee 383, 4 spd.? Nearly identical cars (except for cosmetics) but like the crossfire, one has alot more H.P., one is alot more common than the other, and one is more than a second quicker in the 1/4 mile.
Firebase, it may not be a V8, but bone stock the SRT-6 turns 13.3 in the 1/4 mi. and tops out at over 150 mph+ on the high end. I don't think any "stock" Hemi Cuda. Boss 429, or Tri-Power 435 hp. Vette. did that off the show room floor.
But You're absolutely right. It'll never sound as good as those big "Honkin" V8's did.
(by the way Firebase, thanks for the photo, we'll all be looking for ya)
Last edited by +fireamx; Nov 23, 2005 at 11:52 AM.



