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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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I picked up a 2005 roadster limited a few weeks ago (nice car, the Crossfire) but don't understand the navigation feature apparently included within my 'Infinity Modulus am/fm stereo single-disc CD audio system' as it is referred to.

Here's what I know: I have the 'Navigation User's Manual' which is intended to tell me all about how to use it, I suppose, but provides no step-one clue that a dummy like me needs to simply get started. The space on the radio face reserved for the navigation feature indicates that 'GPS is OK'. When I press the NAV button on the radion tool bar to boot the system, it directs me to 'insert the Navigation CD'. I don't have the Navigation CD, which is not entirely surprising given the car is pre-owned. Stumped.

What I don't know: How do I go about getting my hands on the Nav CD? Where is the GPS antenna? The user's manual refers to a 'compass' that I should see on the digital radio face somewhere; don't see it. Is this vehicle really equipped with the navigation feature?

I probably don't intend to use the thing - the technology is quite outdated already anyway and I'm not one to truly need a nav system - but it would be nice to be able to play with it. What should I do?

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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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Can't do much without the CD's. Can you burn CD's? If so follow the link provided and you'll find the ISO CD images for the East and West CD's. They are on ebay for under $100 regularly. Or find a geek buddy to help you burn the CD's.

Once you have the CD the operation is pretty simple. There are some pretty interesting things you can do with the unit search the forum for the tweaky things.

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ad.php?t=13875
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 07:05 AM
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Can't do much without the CD's. Can you burn CD's? If so follow the link provided and you'll find the ISO CD images for the East and West CD's. They are on ebay for under $100 regularly. Or find a geek buddy to help you burn the CD's.

Once you have the CD the operation is pretty simple. There are some pretty interesting things you can do with the unit search the forum for the tweaky things.

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ad.php?t=13875
The vehicle has the Infinity set-up, sure, but I don't see the GPS anntena. Where might it be located? That's why I am left wondering if the car as a package is really set up for Nav.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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It's under your dash above the instrument pod.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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The NAV system actually works quite well, it just doesn't have a pretty full color screen that looks like a 3D map. I've used mine several times and, unless you're headed for destination that didn't exist prior to 2005 you should be good. Programming is fairly straightforward, once you pop a NAV disc in the unit.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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Thanks, all, for your help. You guys are swell. Wanted to be sure this car, not just the radio, is good to go before I go invest in the CD. I'll probably just go to a dealer, unless someone suggests a better avenue.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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Check Ebay for the CDs. That is probably where yours went. They come up every now and then.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike-in-Orange
The NAV system actually works quite well, it just doesn't have a pretty full color screen that looks like a 3D map. I've used mine several times and, unless you're headed for destination that didn't exist prior to 2005 you should be good. Programming is fairly straightforward, once you pop a NAV disc in the unit.
Maybe it works well for the uninitiated. I think it's horrible. Difficult to use. It won't reroute without the cd's in. I live in a town of 12,000 people. It doesn't even even have my steet on it. And it's a steet that runs clear across the city. I would say it's pretty outdated at best. I like the running compass though. I use a Delorme program on my laptop in my truck. Even it isn't perfect. But worlds better than the Crossfire unit. Also consider The Crossfire unit is a German, Becker unit. Which might explain why it doesn't seem to know the U.S. very well.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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I was in the same boat a couple of weeks ago, and these helpful guys directed me to their download site. I downloaded onto my laptop, then burned the CD's. They work fine. I spent an hour yesterday playing with the GPS in the garage. It's not as difficult as the manual sounds. I have hopes for it. Try the cheap and simple downloads.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rush549
Maybe it works well for the uninitiated. I think it's horrible. Difficult to use. It won't reroute without the cd's in. I live in a town of 12,000 people. It doesn't even even have my steet on it. And it's a steet that runs clear across the city. I would say it's pretty outdated at best. I like the running compass though. I use a Delorme program on my laptop in my truck. Even it isn't perfect. But worlds better than the Crossfire unit. Also consider The Crossfire unit is a German, Becker unit. Which might explain why it doesn't seem to know the U.S. very well.
The NAV-system is actually very simple and easy to operate. In regards to the accuracy - the data provided on the CD is just old. I have similar problems with younger systems. Navtech and their competitors - both US companies - data base is used worldwide, but it is not always up-to-date. The database should be renewed on a yearly bases.
I have installed this unit in some of my oldtimers. It is unobstrusive and always got me where I wanted to go.

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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dwightdmagee
Thanks, all, for your help. You guys are swell. Wanted to be sure this car, not just the radio, is good to go before I go invest in the CD. I'll probably just go to a dealer, unless someone suggests a better avenue.
You must be rolling in money! Are you sure you want to do that? http://www.leeparts.com/chrysler_cro...tion_disc.html
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by spotsbimmer
You must be rolling in money! Are you sure you want to do that? http://www.leeparts.com/chrysler_cro...tion_disc.html
For the quoted price you get a complete radio and some change back. That is a ridiculous price. Does it have guilded buttons? (ironic remark)
But seriously - I have a couple of the units I bought brand new end of last year.
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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You say one should update the database yearly; how does one do that?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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Like others have said, "with the disc it works well."

Mine is on the shelf with the cupholder, though.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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It works ok but is not up to 2009 units. Chrysler has the CDs on line. Suggest if you really need a Nav unit buy a stick on the windshield unit. That has all the latest toys.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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It works ok but is not up to 2009 units. Chrysler has the CDs on line. Suggest if you really need a Nav unit buy a stick on the windshield unit. That has all the latest toys.
Would you kindly share that Chrysler 'get a Nav CD on-line' link with me?
 
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 07:31 AM
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Maybe it works well for the uninitiated. I think it's horrible. Difficult to use. It won't reroute without the cd's in. I live in a town of 12,000 people. It doesn't even even have my steet on it. And it's a steet that runs clear across the city. I would say it's pretty outdated at best. I like the running compass though. I use a Delorme program on my laptop in my truck. Even it isn't perfect. But worlds better than the Crossfire unit. Also consider The Crossfire unit is a German, Becker unit. Which might explain why it doesn't seem to know the U.S. very well.
I used to have a Garmin Nuvi but now use a TomTom unit in my other cars and, while it has more bells and whistles than the factory unit in the Crossfire I find the German unit in my roadster knows the US pretty well . Does that still make me "uninitiated"?

Is it perfect? No, but what is? No doubt that it will become totally outdated as time moves forward, considering there are no new CDs available for it. But I really couldn't care less. My car is a weekend toy and 99% of the time it's driven with the top down and the Magnaflow exhaust screaming. I rarely even turn on the radio.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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Pls look up the website of Becker Car Radios for that is what they are.
By the way - I have a TomTom also. Nice unit but it is to obstrusive for my taste. I just need the directions by arrow, etc. and the Becker does it pretty well.
Also - contact Navtech.
I got mine from Becker in 2008

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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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Just download the ISO for free and burn the CD. Works like a charm.

The nav unit is actually pretty good. There are obvious drawbacks like the need to have the CD in the player in order to re-route, no color screen, and outdated map data. That said, I use it all the time in the Philly metro area and aside from the occasional "street that didn't exist prior to 2004" blips, it works very well. Routes are pretty direct, re-routes happen quickly, and the directions are easy to understand. I like that when you press in the left dial it gives you an arrival ETA.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rush549
Maybe it works well for the uninitiated. I think it's horrible. Difficult to use. It won't reroute without the cd's in. I live in a town of 12,000 people. It doesn't even even have my steet on it. And it's a steet that runs clear across the city. I would say it's pretty outdated at best. I like the running compass though. I use a Delorme program on my laptop in my truck. Even it isn't perfect. But worlds better than the Crossfire unit. Also consider The Crossfire unit is a German, Becker unit. Which might explain why it doesn't seem to know the U.S. very well.
The Germans had a lot of maps of the US, very detailed, but they stopped updating them in 1945.
 
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