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Old 03-17-2009, 01:31 PM
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I was checking out the Crossfire on Wikipedia. This is what I found, In 2003 the production of a 2003 was 35,700, 2004 was 28,000 2005 was 12,500 2006 was 4,805 2007 was 2,000. I like to know if this true,I have 2005 black roadster. Thank you for the Info.
 
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I think those numbers are close enough to go with. From what I understand there are not specific numbers of cars on the dot. Suffice to say it's about 77,500 cars in total. I wish I knew how many remain. Numbers are also limited in the US as some are in Europe and Canada, but again I don't know where the distribution is now.
 
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The other question, of course, is how many of the ones produced in 2004 were identified as 2004 models and how many were sold as 2005s etc. If you look at the build date and the registration date, there is no true corelation. I doubt we will ever know how many were sold as 2005s, 2006s, roadsters, coupes, Bases, Limiteds etc. It would sure be nice though to even be able to break it down by color, automatis, sticks etc. This would be a great project for CICCI and perhaps their influance on Karman or Chrysler ??? It seems there should be a computer record or spreadsheet somewhere. Why the secrecy ???
 
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Were there any 2003 XFs?
 
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I think the build date says 2003 but they were sold as 2004 .I have a 2003 brochure that shows the crossfire release in Nov 03 as a 2004. jim
 
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Some of the 04s were built in 03 but registered as 04s. That is why I said it is very confusing.
 
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Has anyone actually figured out an approximation of the number of roadsters sold? I know that only about 900 some SRT6 Roadsters came off the line but I'd like to know if the percentage of coupes to roadsters is known.
 
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Has anyone actually figured out an approximation of the number of roadsters sold? I know that only about 900 some SRT6 Roadsters came off the line but I'd like to know if the percentage of coupes to roadsters is known.
I believe SRTSIX did a pretty accurate estimate and breakdown and there is a breakdown on the CICCI website.

This thread may help:
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...rt6s-made.html
 

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I believe SRTSIX did a pretty accurate estimate and breakdown.
I searched for a couple minutes and didn't find anything. I'll go do some more digging.

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I searched for a couple minutes and didn't find anything. I'll go do some more digging.

thanks
There have been a few of us trying to get the information from Chrysler for a while now. We keep meeting the "that's proprietary information" wall; as if it is a State secret.

This weekend I was given a name and number of an individual at Chrysler who I was told could help us. -C-I-C-C-I will be following up the lead and if we are successful and we get the hard facts we will be sure to let everyone know.

Here is the breakdown done using the Chrysler website; pinging in on model year and production numbers. As originally posted on the -C-I-C-C-I website back in March:

76,007 Total Units

2004 Build Numbers "4X" 25,413 Units
000041
025453

2005 Build Numbers "5X" 35,603 Units
025454
061056

2006 Build Numbers "6X" 8,893 Units
061057
069949

2007 Build Numbers "7X" 4,313 Units
069950
074262

2008 Build Numbers "8X" 1,785 Units
074263
076047
Unfortunately, to me it creates more questions than it answers. But it shows the wiki numbers are definitely off. We'll keep you posted...

R
 

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There have been a few of us trying to get the information from Chrysler for a while now. We keep meeting the "that's proprietary information" wall; as if it is a State secret.

This weekend I was given a name and number of an individual at Chrysler who I was told could help us. -C-I-C-C-I will be following up the lead and if we are successful and we get the hard facts we will be sure to let everyone know.

Here is the break done using the Chrysler website; pinging in on model year and production numbers. As originally posted on the -C-I-C-C-I website back in March:



Unfortunately, to me it creates more questions than it answers. But it shows the wiki numbers are definitely off. We'll keep you posted...

R
Only 76007 built huh.
 
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Only 76007 built huh.
Yes sir... Based on VIN queries using the Chrysler site... 000041 is the first record 2004 model year (there are none recorded as 3X models, but many 04s were built in 2003); and 076047 is the last 2008 record.

If someone was industrious; they could ping every VIN an write down the model code - (that would take forever) and we still wouldn't have the paint color breakdowns, LHD or RHD, destination country, etc... Our only hope is for Chysler to give it to us; or have Chrysler tell Karmann it is ok to release the info to us.

I can tell you this: the number and name we were given has panned out to be a real live person.
 
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Originally Posted by rhacker382
Yes sir... Based on VIN queries using the Chrysler site... 000041 is the first record 2004 model year (there are none recorded as 3X models, but many 04s were built in 2003); and 076047 is the last 2008 record.

If someone was industrious; they could ping every VIN an write down the model code - (that would take forever) and we still wouldn't have the paint color breakdowns, LHD or RHD, destination country, etc... Our only hope is for Chysler to give it to us; or have Chrysler tell Karmann it is ok to release the info to us.

I can tell you this: the number and name we were given has panned out to be a real live person.
I have spent a lot of hours gathering data (2000+ Units) on this and the first record in the 2004 Model Year is 14 followed by 17 and 28 (14 or 17 may be owned by the Creator). The number in wiki are pretty good for production by Calendar Year and the list in your other post is also pretty accurate for production by Model Year. There is a diffence between the two (Calendar vs Model year)
BTW #28 belongs to a forum member
I have taken a pic of the VIN plate on #13 in February of 2003 at the Chicago Auto show (in my gallery)

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https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...-registry.html
 

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Originally Posted by MI1XFIRE
I have spent a lot of hours gathering data (2000+ Units) on this and the first record in the 2004 Model Year is 14 followed by 17 and 28 (14 or 17 may be owned by the Creator). The number in wiki are pretty good for production by Calendar Year and the list in your other post is also pretty accurate for production by Model Year. There is a diffence between the two (Calendar vs Model year)
BTW #28 belongs to a forum member
I have taken a pic of the VIN plate on #13 in February of 2003 at the Chicago Auto show (in my gallery)

If anyone care to contribute post your info. here:
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Jean Marc,

Do you have owner info etc.. on those early VINs?
 
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Jean Marc,

Do you have owner info etc.. on those early VINs?
Ray,
28 is on this forum under 04silvercrossfire
14 and 17 were found in Chrysler's database and I suspect one of them belongs to the Creator.
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MI1XFIRE has come up with some unique info. He found that mine was one of the first roadsters known to have been sold. It was built out of sequence - my serial # is 5X024111 - the coupes built before and after this were 2004's.(4X024110, 4X024112) It will be interesting to see what the Chrysler guy can come up with as everyone tries to figure out exact #'s etc.
 
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Originally Posted by Reliableron
MI1XFIRE has come up with some unique info. He found that mine was one of the first roadsters known to have been sold. It was built out of sequence - my serial # is 5X024111 - the coupes built before and after this were 2004's.(4X024110, 4X024112) It will be interesting to see what the Chrysler guy can come up with as everyone tries to figure out exact #'s etc.
I would doubt that it was built out of sequence, rather that roadsters had to be '05 year model. So if they had not finished the obligated '04 coupe quantity and '05 roadsters had to be smoothly flowing down the line with all the kinks worked out it would make sense to slip some in earlier than normal.
Only by using the build date for the three serial numbers could you say that the serial numbers were manufactured out of sequence.
Why have serial numbers if they are not in series?
 
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Originally Posted by strikedeep
I was checking out the Crossfire on Wikipedia. This is what I found, In 2003 the production of a 2003 was 35,700, 2004 was 28,000 2005 was 12,500 2006 was 4,805 2007 was 2,000. I like to know if this true,I have 2005 black roadster. Thank you for the Info.
The 2003 production figure you quote has to be wrong, I have a 2004 built on November 17th at 23.00 hr. The serial number is 14,309 which means that if we take the figures quoted, the factory had to build 21,391 cars in 44 days including Xmas, not bloody likely.
At that rate the 2004 quantity could have been done in 58 days. I realize that I have simplified the numbers and production rate.
 
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Originally Posted by Reliableron
MI1XFIRE has come up with some unique info. He found that mine was one of the first roadsters known to have been sold. It was built out of sequence - my serial # is 5X024111 - the coupes built before and after this were 2004's.(4X024110, 4X024112) It will be interesting to see what the Chrysler guy can come up with as everyone tries to figure out exact #'s etc.
That is very interesting...
 
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
The 2003 production figure you quote has to be wrong, I have a 2004 built on November 17th at 23.00 hr. The serial number is 14,309 which means that if we take the figures quoted, the factory had to build 21,391 cars in 44 days including Xmas, not bloody likely.
At that rate the 2004 quantity could have been done in 58 days. I realize that I have simplified the numbers and production rate.
According to the data I obtained from Karmann they were 18489 Crossfire build in 2003.
 


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