Anyone's First Car?
. My father bought me the car when I was fifteen, and have had it since. Crossfire's are just different, in a good way, and I am glad to have it for my first car; my father purchased it for me on October of 2003, Graphite w/ Auto. Everything on the car is enticing. Write me if anyone else's Crossfire is their first car-ever. I am very fortunate for a kid, and yes I love my real toys!!! LOL!!!...
Last edited by graphiteman; Mar 16, 2005 at 04:25 PM.
Since my 1st car was a 1953 Chevrolet power glide, that I bought with my own money from hauling hay, and my 2nd was a 1966 'stang (this was the late 70's by the way), that I bought with my own money from hauling hay.... having some kid have daddy give them a Crossfire just burns me. I guess parents don't believe in making their kids work for stuff anymore.
Originally Posted by former NXMX5
yay, good for you. most of us work for our toys. its worth so much more when you know youve actually EARNED it.
ste7of1
Originally Posted by graphiteman
I also own a 2004 Corvette Convertible, 2004 Mini Cooper S 40th Edition, and a 2005 Mini Cooper S Convertible. I am very fortunate for a kid, and yes I love my real toys!!! LOL!!! I can not wait to get my Ferrari F430, I get it the 28th of April; might trade it for a Murcielago, decisions are hard, let me tell you all...
family cars don't count...even if they exist in the dream.
(i'll hold my breath to see the pics of your crossfire next to your new F430 by May 1st)...hope i don't die.
I see nothing wrong with a parent buying their kid a car. I would do the same. If the kid is good, reward him. Though my 1st car was cool, it was want I wanted, 1984 El Camino Conquista with a 150k on the clock. I have come a long way lol. Never got any hand outs, I always and still do work for my cars. I would just have not chosen a Crossfire as car of choice. Though I guess it makes sense, keep the power low to keep you out of trouble.
Originally Posted by former NXMX5
how many times has he edited this post? what happened to the vette, mini s, F430, murcielago
just what we need on this forum is more bullsh!t
just what we need on this forum is more bullsh!t
Originally Posted by Bullseye
I see nothing wrong with a parent buying their kid a car. I would do the same. If the kid is good, reward him. Though my 1st car was cool, it was want I wanted, 1984 El Camino Conquista with a 150k on the clock. I have come a long way lol. Never got any hand outs, I always and still do work for my cars. I would just have not chosen a Crossfire as car of choice. Though I guess it makes sense, keep the power low to keep you out of trouble.
And then there's that little jab you put at the end, which is a whole other conversation. Since I'm new here, I'm trying to understand why someone who doesn't like this car would want to come to a forum about this car. Kinda like a ***** in church. Outta place.
Originally Posted by xfuego
I'm sure you don't. Why teach a kid responsibility? Why make them have a financial interest in their automobile? Face it, you get something for free, you treat it like it was free. You pay for it yourself, you treat it like you had to work for it. It's that simple. Kids need to have a reason to act responsibly. They learn that by being given responsibility. Giving them a car just because you can doesn't teach them anything but that Daddy will take care of things FOR you.
And then there's that little jab you put at the end, which is a whole other conversation. Since I'm new here, I'm trying to understand why someone who doesn't like this car would want to come to a forum about this car. Kinda like a ***** in church. Outta place.
And then there's that little jab you put at the end, which is a whole other conversation. Since I'm new here, I'm trying to understand why someone who doesn't like this car would want to come to a forum about this car. Kinda like a ***** in church. Outta place.
And I disagree with your entire arguement. It comes down to the individual person, I know someone who got a brand new Tibby from their parents, and he treats it like his child. You just must deal with alot of deviates.
I come one here to bring you guys back to reality. But on your analogy, a ***** needs God more than an honest person, wouldnt you agree? She absolutely belongs in church.
Well, let's see. No, I don't deal with a lot of 'deviates', or deviants. I have spent a great deal of time with teenagers of all types. And I stand by my assessment. Teens learn responsibility by being made to be responsible. Giving them things, especially something as important, as dangerous and as significant as an automobile, doesn't do that. They have to have a stake in it. The more extravagant the car is that Daddy gives a kid, the bigger the signal that Daddy is going to take care of things and there's less need to act responsibly. Of course, there's always an exception to the rule. But you can't go wrong applying the principal to all. Good kids need to learn, or reinforce, responsibility as well.
The "***** in Church" analogy apparently went over your head, so I'll explain. It's not about who needs GOD, it's about those who's values, opinions, etc... the flagrantly contradict the environment and / or the people they came to be with. A better analogy would be a Black Panther at a Klan rally I suppose.
The "***** in Church" analogy apparently went over your head, so I'll explain. It's not about who needs GOD, it's about those who's values, opinions, etc... the flagrantly contradict the environment and / or the people they came to be with. A better analogy would be a Black Panther at a Klan rally I suppose.
Originally Posted by xfuego
Well, let's see. No, I don't deal with a lot of 'deviates', or deviants. I have spent a great deal of time with teenagers of all types. And I stand by my assessment. Teens learn responsibility by being made to be responsible. Giving them things, especially something as important, as dangerous and as significant as an automobile, doesn't do that. They have to have a stake in it. The more extravagant the car is that Daddy gives a kid, the bigger the signal that Daddy is going to take care of things and there's less need to act responsibly. Of course, there's always an exception to the rule. But you can't go wrong applying the principal to all. Good kids need to learn, or reinforce, responsibility as well.
The "***** in Church" analogy apparently went over your head, so I'll explain. It's not about who needs GOD, it's about those who's values, opinions, etc... the flagrantly contradict the environment and / or the people they came to be with. A better analogy would be a Black Panther at a Klan rally I suppose.
The "***** in Church" analogy apparently went over your head, so I'll explain. It's not about who needs GOD, it's about those who's values, opinions, etc... the flagrantly contradict the environment and / or the people they came to be with. A better analogy would be a Black Panther at a Klan rally I suppose.
You're right your analogy was horrible, though I got the point at which you were trying to get to. Just thought I would open your eyes on to where it might be incorrect.
Your new one is much better, but what ever happened to "know thy enemy"?
Like I said, you can't go wrong having kids, good or not-so-good, be responsible for those sort of things. My kids are good kids as well. Both honor students, one in college to be a teacher the other entering college this fall to be a nurse (graduating High School with 24 hours of college already). And I practice what I preach. Even though they are good kids, I make sure they have a stake in the things that matter. I bought them both cars, albeit, something older and not expensive, but they are responsible for buying their own gas, oil, tires, tune-ups, and paying for their insurance. If they want a nicer car, then they'll have to earn the money to get a nicer car. Same as with college. I foot some of the bill and they foot some of the bill. That way, they are more serious about their studies. They know if they party and flunk a class, they lose some hard earned money in the deal. See, I see my job as a parent as raising responsible young adults. Not old children.
And why do you consider Xfire owners "the enemy"? All I see is a bunch of people who really like a car, either for the pure aesthetics of it, the performance (or perceived performance), or just the sheer fun of driving it. Sure there are more powerful cars out there, better performing cars out there, but these people (me as well) simply like the car for what it is. Bashing it doesn't change anyone's opinion of how much they like the car, it just makes you look like an ***.
And why do you consider Xfire owners "the enemy"? All I see is a bunch of people who really like a car, either for the pure aesthetics of it, the performance (or perceived performance), or just the sheer fun of driving it. Sure there are more powerful cars out there, better performing cars out there, but these people (me as well) simply like the car for what it is. Bashing it doesn't change anyone's opinion of how much they like the car, it just makes you look like an ***.
Originally Posted by xfuego
Like I said, you can't go wrong having kids, good or not-so-good, be responsible for those sort of things. My kids are good kids as well. Both honor students, one in college to be a teacher the other entering college this fall to be a nurse (graduating High School with 24 hours of college already). And I practice what I preach. Even though they are good kids, I make sure they have a stake in the things that matter. I bought them both cars, albeit, something older and not expensive, but they are responsible for buying their own gas, oil, tires, tune-ups, and paying for their insurance. If they want a nicer car, then they'll have to earn the money to get a nicer car. Same as with college. I foot some of the bill and they foot some of the bill. That way, they are more serious about their studies. They know if they party and flunk a class, they lose some hard earned money in the deal. See, I see my job as a parent as raising responsible young adults. Not old children.
And why do you consider Xfire owners "the enemy"? All I see is a bunch of people who really like a car, either for the pure aesthetics of it, the performance (or perceived performance), or just the sheer fun of driving it. Sure there are more powerful cars out there, better performing cars out there, but these people (me as well) simply like the car for what it is. Bashing it doesn't change anyone's opinion of how much they like the car, it just makes you look like an ***.
And why do you consider Xfire owners "the enemy"? All I see is a bunch of people who really like a car, either for the pure aesthetics of it, the performance (or perceived performance), or just the sheer fun of driving it. Sure there are more powerful cars out there, better performing cars out there, but these people (me as well) simply like the car for what it is. Bashing it doesn't change anyone's opinion of how much they like the car, it just makes you look like an ***.
And I don't see the XF owners as the enemy, I meant it as a problem with your new alnalogy, why would the black pather be there? To know thy enemy.
And if my bashing doesnt change anyones opinion why do they get so angry? Maybe because I hit truth into their true feelings? Now most feel that this car is the best because quite frankly it is the best car they have ever owned. Personally, I feel alot of crossfire owners given the chance to do it over again would not have purchased one. I for sure would have not, nor would I have bought the SRT. I would have drove my Blazer and waited for the market of the STi to come down a bit, then buy one with some money down. Bought the SRT-4, because it doesnt stress me, while I still have the crossfire, though owning the STi would have been taxing me. 2 payments suck. But what can you do?


