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Old 09-21-2007, 10:13 PM
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What's your thought... sorted by weight /( hp+torque)
Xfire SRT-6 at the bottom right.

Edit: added more cars. Resort on weight /( hp+torque)

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Nice menu. I'll take a TC V-12, please! As you can see, turbochargers are more advantageous than superchargers. They are less problematic and most manufactures are going to TC's over SC's. You can get a tremendous amount of torque out of the V-12 compared to the V-8. I do love that 5.5L SC engine in the E55 as well.
 
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If I'm reading that right the SRT-6 is near the bottom of the list as well, performance-wise. That ain't good.

What's amazing is that a car as large as the Ferrari F430 can weigh so little.
 
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I'm wondering why the same engine used in the SLK 32 AMG and the C32 AMG have higher HP and TQ ratings than the SRT version. There are even differences between the 2 AMG cars. What gives? Did they de-tune it for our car or are they not telling the whole truth about our HP and TQ?
 
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Originally Posted by cgocifer
I'm wondering why the same engine used in the SLK 32 AMG and the C32 AMG have higher HP and TQ ratings than the SRT version. There are even differences between the 2 AMG cars. What gives? Did they de-tune it for our car or are they not telling the whole truth about our HP and TQ?
Well, the story goes that MB did not want the SRT6 making the same #s as the SLK32 AMG, so they downplayed the #s. Over at SRTforums, a SRT guy w/DCX said that the engines are exactly the same and basically verified the rumor of shorting the #s.
Renntech said in an email (on here somewhere) that the cams are different between the SRT6 and the C32/SLK32 engines. To my knowledge, no one has verified that.
IMO, the engines are all exactly the same. Exhausts are different though (which we know).
 
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Originally Posted by Wade
If I'm reading that right the SRT-6 is near the bottom of the list as well, performance-wise. That ain't good.

What's amazing is that a car as large as the Ferrari F430 can weigh so little.
But the other engines are V10 or V8's. Price/HP would be a great column.

(but only if you used the "inventory sale" price and not sticker price).

I doubt you could pick up any of the other cars new for $25.6K
 
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Originally Posted by Wade
If I'm reading that right the SRT-6 is near the bottom of the list as well, performance-wise. That ain't good

What's amazing is that a car as large as the Ferrari F430 can weigh so little.
I would think that the most interesting number shown, and one which
would be more to what these cars are capable of on the track/strip is
the curb weight/hp. With a 9.xx, the SRT-6 is pretty much in the middle
of the pack. Remember, a heavier car, even though it has more horse
power, may come out the looser to a lighter car with less horsepower.
It all depends on the ratios.

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Pretty good power to weight ratio. That's always good. It's actually better than that, since we have pretty much dispelled the 330 HP rating as BS. Figuring the REAL number is 349...
 
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Here's more charts sorted by curb weight / (HP+Torque). Remember, torque is important,

AMG and competition. The SRT-6 is not in the doldrums

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Where did they get the information that the base price of an SRT-6 is $26,000? Sure makes you wonder what other information may be inaccurate in the chart.
 
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Great Work.
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I couldn't find the Crossfire...

I did, on the other hand, find a Corssfire.
 
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Great info, I have been all over the net piecing this together. Nice to have it all in one place. Is this something you could email? I am getting ready to start an engine swap on my Crossfire.
 
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Originally Posted by maxxm
Where did they get the information that the base price of an SRT-6 is $26,000? Sure makes you wonder what other information may be inaccurate in the chart.
Notice the ampersand before the $26,000, a editorial nuance, close to what the board is reporting.

The chart is meant as fun, reality.
 
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If you take the power to weight ratio and then factor in the cost (not sure what that formula would look like) to get the bang for your buck ratio, I bet the SRT-6 is a clear winner at $26,000.
 
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