Crossfire vs. Civic @ PCH?
Re: Crossfire vs. Civic @ PCH?
Originally Posted by Mike-in-Orange
My "driving home in a Crossfire" was a bit tongue in cheek - this is a Crossfire forum after all.
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Re: Crossfire vs. Civic @ PCH?
A Civic needs 18psi of boost to be running 13's. Engine, turbos, drivetrain -- that's at least $20k+ worth of mods plus the donor car. More than the cost of an SRT6. More than a two year old STI or Evo. If they line up, which one is the fancy car? I can appreciate the kid running high 12's in the old fox platform Mustang he spend a few grand modifying. But unless someone is in the business of peddling Honda performanc parts, I can't even begin to understand spending those kinds of dollars modifying one.
Re: Crossfire vs. Civic @ PCH?
Originally Posted by Mike-in-Orange
Uh-huh. Try telling that to the 11 and 12 second Civics I've seen run at the dragstrip here in SoCal. No doubt I'd still rather have a Crossfire SRT6 than any Civic ever built - hell, I'd rather have my Limited Roadster than any Civic ever built - but never underestimate what can be done with virtually any car. And never forget the old adage "there's always someone faster". Assuming it's all Pep Boys bits and baubles will just get your *** handed to you.
Of course, you'd get to drive home in a Crossfire regardless the outcome, so you still win.
Of course, you'd get to drive home in a Crossfire regardless the outcome, so you still win.
Re: Crossfire vs. Civic @ PCH?
In all honesty, those “ricers” are no different from those of us with pulleys or tunes or intakes etc. We all want to boost the performance of our choice vehicle, if that’s your thing. I have no problem crushing unsuspecting “ricers”, just so they will have a good story to tell about the mysterious bat winged Sebring. <Yes someone asked is that the new Sebring coupe today> .
Re: Crossfire vs. Civic @ PCH?
Originally Posted by Montana Crossfire
WHAT HAS THE CROSSFIRE SRT-6 BECOME?????
It is concidered by some as a world class driver and the "new" owners of them, since the bottom of the market fell out making them CHEAP are out playing with the same little Rice burning toy cars they did when they were driving rice with tincan mufflers, slap on Neon lights and plastic body art. If you want to run against cars, mearly grin at the rice junk and wait for some real cars and challenges to come along.
German hand built, Japanese import with Checker auto and Pep Boys????
Not even a decission, be proud of what your driving.
Enjoy the Ride...
Mike
It is concidered by some as a world class driver and the "new" owners of them, since the bottom of the market fell out making them CHEAP are out playing with the same little Rice burning toy cars they did when they were driving rice with tincan mufflers, slap on Neon lights and plastic body art. If you want to run against cars, mearly grin at the rice junk and wait for some real cars and challenges to come along.
German hand built, Japanese import with Checker auto and Pep Boys????
Not even a decission, be proud of what your driving.
Enjoy the Ride...
Mike
A Civic with 200HP that weighs 1800lbs or less can be a monster, and should be respected. Otherwise you're going to look like a damn fool one day.
I love the "slap neons on with plastic body art" comment when damn near every aftermarket exterior part for this car someone pops us with "CAN I GET IT IN CHROME!!?!?!?"
Please.
Aren't we all driving WAYY over priced mid-life-crisis-mobiles!? That makes us better than them?
Originally Posted by No1Piranha
A Civic needs 18psi of boost to be running 13's. Engine, turbos, drivetrain -- that's at least $20k+ worth of mods plus the donor car. More than the cost of an SRT6. More than a two year old STI or Evo. If they line up, which one is the fancy car? I can appreciate the kid running high 12's in the old fox platform Mustang he spend a few grand modifying. But unless someone is in the business of peddling Honda performanc parts, I can't even begin to understand spending those kinds of dollars modifying one.
That's completely false.
Honda engines have such a high compression they only need 7-9 lbs of boost with a stripped car to run a 13.
****, throw an N/A K20 (RSX motor) in a stripped Integra and watch the hell out.
Loud and annoying? Yes.
Potent in the right hands? YES.
Re: Crossfire vs. Civic @ PCH?
I'm not quite sure where this thread is heading but......
If you told me I could get a 500 HP Civic for a buck I would pass. I purchased the Crosssfire because-
A. I Love it
B. It's unique
C. I bunch of other stuff too
Go look out in any parking lot right now, they'll be at least 3 civics. My GF has on, and her sister too.
I don't know what you track guys feel but that is my opinion.
I don't car what company name is on it, Chrysler, MB, or Daewoo... I love my Crossfire
If you told me I could get a 500 HP Civic for a buck I would pass. I purchased the Crosssfire because-
A. I Love it
B. It's unique
C. I bunch of other stuff too
Go look out in any parking lot right now, they'll be at least 3 civics. My GF has on, and her sister too.
I don't know what you track guys feel but that is my opinion.
I don't car what company name is on it, Chrysler, MB, or Daewoo... I love my Crossfire
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Re: Crossfire vs. Civic @ PCH?
I'm with you, rodimus! My mods are a wash and a full tank, too.
Give me an lonely country road with a few bends thrown in and My SRT and I will have a ball. Around here a street race lasts for 8 seconds and then your in trouble with traffic. Out of town on my own I can tear around like a scalded dog for a half an hour.(and 8 bucks in gas, as I found out Saturday) I only wish I had another crossfire bud to play tag with.
Give me an lonely country road with a few bends thrown in and My SRT and I will have a ball. Around here a street race lasts for 8 seconds and then your in trouble with traffic. Out of town on my own I can tear around like a scalded dog for a half an hour.(and 8 bucks in gas, as I found out Saturday) I only wish I had another crossfire bud to play tag with.
Re: Crossfire vs. Civic @ PCH?
Originally Posted by rodimus
I'm not quite sure where this thread is heading but......
If you told me I could get a 500 HP Civic for a buck I would pass. I purchased the Crosssfire because-
A. I Love it
B. It's unique
C. I bunch of other stuff too
If you told me I could get a 500 HP Civic for a buck I would pass. I purchased the Crosssfire because-
A. I Love it
B. It's unique
C. I bunch of other stuff too
We're talking about respecting a car in a race. That's it.
If you think that just because a car has a loud muffler, somehow its not worth your time and beneth you, you're going to get embarrassed.
MontanaSRT was talking like it was a waste of gas to race a gutted Civic with 200hp. DO THE MATH, that's 1/2 the weight of our cars with LESS than half of the HP.
The reason the thread starter was surprised that the Civic lost was because it probably beats asses on a regular basis.
Originally Posted by rodimus
Go look out in any parking lot right now, they'll be at least 3 civics. My GF has on, and her sister too.
I don't know what you track guys feel but that is my opinion.
I don't know what you track guys feel but that is my opinion.
As for your girlfriend owning one....go look at your average Crossfire owner...are you dillusional?
What's next, are we going to debate RESALE VALUE?
Last edited by Illegal Machine; 08-25-2008 at 07:06 PM.
Re: Crossfire vs. Civic @ PCH?
Originally Posted by Illegal Machine
I don't *want* a gutted, 500hp civic to take to work and "wow" clients. Or take a cruise up to Austin in. That's not what we're talking about.
We're talking about respecting a car in a race. That's it.
If you think that just because a car has a loud muffler, somehow its not worth your time and beneth you, you're going to get embarrassed.
MontanaSRT was talking like it was a waste of gas to race a gutted Civic with 200hp. DO THE MATH, that's 1/2 the weight of our cars with LESS than half of the HP.
The reason the thread starter was surprised that the Civic lost was because it probably beats asses on a regular basis.
You'll also probably see a couple of Camaro's and a couple of Mustang GT's. What does that mean?
As for your girlfriend owning one....go look at your average Crossfire owner...are you dillusional?
What's next, are we going to debate RESALE VALUE?
We're talking about respecting a car in a race. That's it.
If you think that just because a car has a loud muffler, somehow its not worth your time and beneth you, you're going to get embarrassed.
MontanaSRT was talking like it was a waste of gas to race a gutted Civic with 200hp. DO THE MATH, that's 1/2 the weight of our cars with LESS than half of the HP.
The reason the thread starter was surprised that the Civic lost was because it probably beats asses on a regular basis.
You'll also probably see a couple of Camaro's and a couple of Mustang GT's. What does that mean?
As for your girlfriend owning one....go look at your average Crossfire owner...are you dillusional?
What's next, are we going to debate RESALE VALUE?
Okay, calm down chief. I don't go to tracks and race, I'll mess around just driving to and fro. I'm not putting down your civic, or whatever reason your taking such offense to me not wanting one. I'm never going to be a serious performance modder. If I was, it wouldn't be a civic though. I like the way the crossfire LOOKS... It just so happens my SRT his friggin fun to drive. The civic ,, looks like , a car(I dunno).
Who am I to judge, you are correct. It's just one delirious opinion. Maybe if I was 18 and wanted to drift around a parking lot I would feel different. Maybe you can star in "4 fast 4 Furious-Civics are cool"
Re: Crossfire vs. Civic @ PCH?
Originally Posted by rodimus
Okay, calm down chief. I don't go to tracks and race, I'll mess around just driving to and fro. I'm not putting down your civic, or whatever reason your taking such offense to me not wanting one. I'm never going to be a serious performance modder. If I was, it wouldn't be a civic though. I like the way the crossfire LOOKS... It just so happens my SRT his friggin fun to drive. The civic ,, looks like , a car(I dunno).
I own a Crossfire SRT-6. We're not talking about looks. We're talking about RACING CARS.
If you don't know anything about racing cars, then leave, because the fact that you like suede and leater seats over cloth Honda seats isn't really what anyone it talking about.
Originally Posted by rodimus
Who am I to judge, you are correct. It's just one delirious opinion. Maybe if I was 18 and wanted to drift around a parking lot I would feel different. Maybe you can star in "4 fast 4 Furious-Civics are cool"
B) There are SEVERAL members on this forum with underglow neons, chrome....EVERYTHING, Carbon fiber trim, "lambo" doors.
C) A supercharged Crossfire has SO much in common with a gutted Civic, its unbelieveable.
When someone on this forum totally takes an M3 owner by surprise and beats them in a race...why are the surprised? BECAUSE CROSSFIRES (much like Civics) ARE SLOW!
If faster cars never gave (what they THINK is a) slower cars a chance, nobody on this forum would ever get anyone to race. If I drive a mid 13 second Mustang, why do I care if some old guy in a 15 second crossfire is trying to race me? Why waste the gas?
Last edited by Illegal Machine; 08-25-2008 at 07:38 PM.
Re: Crossfire vs. Civic @ PCH?
Illegal Machine.
I got it, I will leave this thread. I'm not a racer, I do like fast cars though, just not the mods. I get where your coming from now though. If I ever want a career as a racer I will trade in my SRT-6, with Sude, for a civic. Thank you for schooling me on this topic. Actually I'd be in heaven if I could just put my Suede seats in a civic.
I enjoy my fast car, am I wrong for keeping my SRT stock? I mod my computers and hook those up,, am I cool now?
Thanks Champ, I had to get my civic driving GF to read your last post.
She just got back from the track actually..
I got it, I will leave this thread. I'm not a racer, I do like fast cars though, just not the mods. I get where your coming from now though. If I ever want a career as a racer I will trade in my SRT-6, with Sude, for a civic. Thank you for schooling me on this topic. Actually I'd be in heaven if I could just put my Suede seats in a civic.
I enjoy my fast car, am I wrong for keeping my SRT stock? I mod my computers and hook those up,, am I cool now?
Thanks Champ, I had to get my civic driving GF to read your last post.
She just got back from the track actually..
Re: Crossfire vs. Civic @ PCH?
Illegal machine, I understand where your coming from, but you are not going to sway anybody into caring if a civic with a loud muffler pulls up to them and wants to race. ITS NOT WORTH THE GAS! If I'm going to risk getting caught it sure isn't going to be against a civic. They are a dime a dozen and 90% of them couldn't break into the 14's on a good day with a 100 mph tail wind on the salt flats with a five man push start. Now if I knew for a fact they had a highly modded car and they were talking junk, I would race them. For the most part tho, they are a waist of gas. Pull up to me in my corolla and I might givem a go.
Re: Crossfire vs. Civic @ PCH?
Originally Posted by BlUEMDsrt6
Illegal machine, I understand where your coming from, but you are not going to sway anybody into caring if a civic with a loud muffler pulls up to them and wants to race. ITS NOT WORTH THE GAS! If I'm going to risk getting caught it sure isn't going to be against a civic. They are a dime a dozen and 90% of them couldn't break into the 14's on a good day with a 100 mph tail wind on the salt flats with a five man push start. Now if I knew for a fact they had a highly modded car and they were talking junk, I would race them. For the most part tho, they are a waist of gas. Pull up to me in my corolla and I might givem a go.
Most of us love the SRT-6 because its rare and a TOTAL "sleeper". The gutted bondo Civic is the consumate sleeper, guys.
That's my point.
The fact that a Crossfire owner would not give another car the time of day because its "supposed to be slow" is totally hypocritical.
And I'd have to argue that getting arrested for street racing, and having my car impounded isn't "worth it" weither its an M3, Aston Martin or a Kia.
If you're street racing to begin with, its hard for me to take any moral stance against racing a Honda seriously.
Re: Crossfire vs. Civic @ PCH?
Originally Posted by rodimus
Illegal Machine.
I got it, I will leave this thread. I'm not a racer, I do like fast cars though, just not the mods. I get where your coming from now though. If I ever want a career as a racer I will trade in my SRT-6, with Sude, for a civic. Thank you for schooling me on this topic. Actually I'd be in heaven if I could just put my Suede seats in a civic.
I got it, I will leave this thread. I'm not a racer, I do like fast cars though, just not the mods. I get where your coming from now though. If I ever want a career as a racer I will trade in my SRT-6, with Sude, for a civic. Thank you for schooling me on this topic. Actually I'd be in heaven if I could just put my Suede seats in a civic.
I'm talking about lining two cars up and hitting the "go" button. That's it. That's what this entire thread is about.
So run along.
Originally Posted by rodimus
I enjoy my fast car, am I wrong for keeping my SRT stock? I mod my computers and hook those up,, am I cool now?
Originally Posted by rodimus
Thanks Champ, I had to get my civic driving GF to read your last post.
She just got back from the track actually..
She just got back from the track actually..
What a tool.