ordering a killer chiller, can anybody help me with the sizes of the AC inlet and outlet hoses?
thanks
Barry

 

I think they were #6 and #8 if you ordered the KC then call Joe tell hin you will need the "T" fittings that fit a mercedes for the install,, if he has them. he does have a kit for a mercedes and that is the one you should have ordered. jim

 

thanks for the quick reply Jim
and yes I am getting it thru Kincaid
Barry

 

the ac compresser runs when the heater is on ,,so the kc will still work on lowering the IAT's even when the outside temp is 32 degrees, already did that ,last winter when i had to go to Jax fl, and it was 33 degrees the KC/ac still works /with the heater on.

 

yes but can you just shut off the AC on the dash
or do you still need to have super cooler in place for cold-weather driving
Barry

 

yes but can you just shut off the AC on the dash
or do you still need to have super cooler in place for cold-weather driving. what I mean is is necessary to keep the super cooler at all. or can you completely eliminate it.
Barry.

 

I have had my car for 7 years and have never turned off the ac.
even when i went to N.C. for the tail of the dragon, i either had the ac or the heater on,,,both the compressor runs.. jim

 

Thanks for all the help
Do you ever have any problems with the ac dripping water on the track?
I was told a few mustangs were kicked of our local track with chillers for ac drip.
Barry

 

when i first installed it yes but then,,,, remember years ago how we tied the oil breather into the exhaust,, well my ac is that way,, i do have to change the 3" long pipes as they are too short and it melts the hose, i will remove these and install about 6 to 8" long pipe.. jim

 

Does anybody have an instruction on how to install the killer chiller?

Do the AC Button need to be turned on to work?

 

This is a guide only as I am going by memory. see the KC

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...,d.aWw&cad=rja

1 vacuum your system.
2 find a place and install at least a 3 gal tank. (if not sealed system tank needs to be above inter cooler)
3 the KC has two water connections and two ac connections,( ac high and low pressure)
4 cut your low pressure hose ,install a "T" connect the hose supplied and your factory hose.
5 do the same for the high pressure line ( it is smaller in dia.)
6 connect the short ac lines supplied, & the water hoses not supplied to the kc unit, & the expansion valve
7 run the large ac hoses supplied to a point that you want the KC installed,(mine is behind the pass headlight), ( don't forget your K C unit with small hoses is about 15" long so mount all hoses without sharp bends.
8 run your water hoses to and from the water tank to the pump and water tank to the inter cooler.
8 your KC water should be separated form engine water.mine runs from the water tank to the I C pump to the KC to the inter cooler, out of the inter cooler back to the 3 gal tank, with a 4" cap/opening .
9 I had to fill the ac freon to 50 psi on the low side ,,,stock is 40.

my water tank is where the Battery was, removed the batt tray and molded a tank to fit.

 

Jim, you have me following this Killer Chiller info with a lot of interest now. I already have the reservoir; having the cooling of ice without having to bother with the ice sounds pretty good!

Your instructions above say to hook up the Killer Chiller in paralllel with the A/C evaporator. The diagram on the KC website shows it run in series (upstream) of the evaporator. What do you recommend?

 

[QUOTE=boostmonkey;797448]Jim, you have me following this Killer Chiller info with a lot of interest now. I already have the reservoir; having the cooling of ice without having to bother with the ice sounds pretty good!

Your instructions above say to hook up the Killer Chiller in paralllel with the A/C evaporator. The diagram on the KC website shows it run in series (upstream) of the evaporator. What do you recommend?


mine works great and it is parallel , because i am in Fl. i need the ac all the time so when i turn on the ac the KC is also on.
I explain it this way ,,You know a van with duel AC that is what i have but only one control button. and i have no heat exchanger.
I will try to do a video of mine from cold engine to running temp showing the iat's

 

A couple of things - questions...
1) I'm a little surprised you can run without a HX...that's amazing....are you aiming for sub Ambient IAT's?

2) The AC should be good for 5kW when hit with normal ambient air (hot day) coming into the cabin AC Evaporator. Hitting it with hot water should increase its capability significantly though. Then its just up to the condenser and pump to do the extra hard yards. I'd be sticking with an HX although plumbing introduces a PITA. OEM HX's should be good for 10kW if plumbed directly after the IC (hot water). A Supercooler would be up in the 20kW - based upon area.

3) I'd be putting the KC after a HX - even a stock one. If you put it before and the KC happens to pull temps below ambient - the HX will actually reheat the water.

4) Isn't the tank....an optional extra...ie: luxury? It adds thermal inertia - but that also applies to cooling back down if it ever gets hot....ie: startup and after a hard run.

5) Do the KC people offer a pressure drop at flow rate figure on the water side? I think the guy I originally spoke to about this was Kincaid....cant remember...

 

Joe Kincaid is the owner, I am running an open system o,,zero in the video you see me open my cap ,,see the water flow
this may help jim

HDV_0050_zpse1d82dd8.mp4 Video by amx1397 | Photobucket

Street Racing Made Safe 40 Mph Roll At Pnir 11-2-13 Photo by amx1397 | Photobucket

 

here is the upgrade and added instructions from Joe himself at Killer Chiller

we are now using a TXV which is attached to the KC. So after installing the liquid line tee, just run the #6 A/C hose to the fitting on the KC with the orange cap. Same with the suction line tee, just run the #12 hose to the fitting on the KC with the white cap.

 

This is definatly on my list. There use to be a company that made a product called "icey res" you can still find their units for sale on cobra/lightning forums. It was actually a reservoir that had the cooling element installed inside. Due to our cars not having a reservoir, this would be a very tidy solution. I keep my eye out for them, but they are getting rare so I may have to do a killer chiller instead.

To get prepped I may relocate my battery and install a reservoir first, then do this next. Keep up the thread if you are getting this so we have all the information we can available.

 

Jim any chance you could post a picture of how that's installed & set up?
also wondering if yourself or Matt can tell me if my one Johnson intercooler pump is enough or do I need to install second one? my tank is going to be about 12 feet back from the front bumper. so 24 feet of hose at least.
thanks
Barry

 

next time i am on a tack i will try to take a pic of my ac drains.
as far as the extra pump, not sure but if it was mine i would have a small tank up front ,,
the flow would go from the small tank,to the front pump, to the KC , to the inter cooler , out of the inter cooler to the rear tank,,, that way your coldest water would go to the Inter cooler..

mine goes from the pump ,to the IC, ic to the tank (where the batt use to be) back to the pump,,round round she goes.jim

 

Thanks Jim
I am trying to keep my system
hidden. i'll be lucky if my whole system holds a little over two US gallons? but I'm going to make sure everything is well insulated, if I can figure out how to put another tank upfront I will. your battery box tank can not hold much more than 2 gallons. I would've gone that route but I didn't want to move my battery to the trunk, or see the system
Barry