Where Do We Go From Here?
Originally Posted by tri_zombie
Traps were 122, 123 and 125 (and some change)
people with the same mods, less the cm-30 (?) and the headers&exhaust are only at about 115
why aren't we hearing more from Eurocharged about this? I'd buy the 185, headers, exhaust and dyno tune if I could trap 123 (and the cm-30 too if it made a difference, whatever that is)!
Originally Posted by billvp
wow, I didn't think anyone was trapping that high w/o nitrous!
people with the same mods, less the cm-30 (?) and the headers&exhaust are only at about 115
why aren't we hearing more from Eurocharged about this? I'd buy the 185, headers, exhaust and dyno tune if I could trap 123 (and the cm-30 too if it made a difference, whatever that is)!
people with the same mods, less the cm-30 (?) and the headers&exhaust are only at about 115
why aren't we hearing more from Eurocharged about this? I'd buy the 185, headers, exhaust and dyno tune if I could trap 123 (and the cm-30 too if it made a difference, whatever that is)!
The CM-30 is the intercooler pump, the reason he had such great times and speed has alot to do with the altitude the track was where he raced.
As for exhaust and headers, they will give you gains it's just a matter how expensive they are against how much gain you'll receive. The headers eurocharged made were very nice but I never saw results or reviews from anyone so I'm not sure what happend there.
alright, so the cm-30 (intercooler pump) added nothing
he said his times were at sea level ... surely some others with similar mods have ran near sea level, and I've not seen anything approaching 123 mph traps ... that's probably 100 hp more than those running 115-ish traps (which include some 185 guys)
that leaves only the exhaust and headers, and no exhaust I've seen has ever added significant hp on this car
so that means the headers would've had to add 100 hp, which Eurocharged would've been trumpeting all over the site since they have a dyno ... but they never announced the hp numbers I've seen either, which likely means they added next to nothing
hate to say B.S., but
he said his times were at sea level ... surely some others with similar mods have ran near sea level, and I've not seen anything approaching 123 mph traps ... that's probably 100 hp more than those running 115-ish traps (which include some 185 guys)
that leaves only the exhaust and headers, and no exhaust I've seen has ever added significant hp on this car
so that means the headers would've had to add 100 hp, which Eurocharged would've been trumpeting all over the site since they have a dyno ... but they never announced the hp numbers I've seen either, which likely means they added next to nothing
hate to say B.S., but
Originally Posted by billvp
hate to say B.S., but 

it was definitely quicker than my modified SRT, more torque, definitely quicker out of the hole.
P.S. I got to know Colin, so while I am hesitant like you about whether this is real or not, I do have to say he is a very stand up gentleman...even if he is a Ragin' Cajun.
Originally Posted by billvp
alright, so the cm-30 (intercooler pump) added nothing
he said his times were at sea level ... surely some others with similar mods have ran near sea level, and I've not seen anything approaching 123 mph traps ... that's probably 100 hp more than those running 115-ish traps (which include some 185 guys)
that leaves only the exhaust and headers, and no exhaust I've seen has ever added significant hp on this car
so that means the headers would've had to add 100 hp, which Eurocharged would've been trumpeting all over the site since they have a dyno ... but they never announced the hp numbers I've seen either, which likely means they added next to nothing
hate to say B.S., but
he said his times were at sea level ... surely some others with similar mods have ran near sea level, and I've not seen anything approaching 123 mph traps ... that's probably 100 hp more than those running 115-ish traps (which include some 185 guys)
that leaves only the exhaust and headers, and no exhaust I've seen has ever added significant hp on this car
so that means the headers would've had to add 100 hp, which Eurocharged would've been trumpeting all over the site since they have a dyno ... but they never announced the hp numbers I've seen either, which likely means they added next to nothing
hate to say B.S., but

Headers and custom exhaust did definately add power. Check his build thread... as much as everyone says they don't the dyno didn't lie..
Headers on the SRT6 is not something to take lightly. It is a very taxing install, and for the labor time involved most wouldn't even bother.
Lets not also forget that when we did his car my C32 was trapping around the same speeds.....hum...coincidence....
Originally Posted by tri_zombie
Hey Thumper
Yea pretty much what's in my sig. I never figured out away to retard the timing enough to use the N2O until now (I'll be testing that this month). I'm going to run 35# and if all goes well bump it up to 75# and see what my knock sensor count is.
The only things different is I added an "on command" auxiliary fuel pump running parallel to existing pump and filter with PSI regulator I Also did some work to the intake (modified and extrude honed) this winter.
Best time: 1/4 Mile = 11.38
Followed with a 11.45 and 11.50 thirty min. apart I really need some rubber under the car. I'm spinning the hell out of tires on a well prepped track.
I do have a secret though, Running at 12' above sea level
Yea pretty much what's in my sig. I never figured out away to retard the timing enough to use the N2O until now (I'll be testing that this month). I'm going to run 35# and if all goes well bump it up to 75# and see what my knock sensor count is.
The only things different is I added an "on command" auxiliary fuel pump running parallel to existing pump and filter with PSI regulator I Also did some work to the intake (modified and extrude honed) this winter.
Best time: 1/4 Mile = 11.38
Followed with a 11.45 and 11.50 thirty min. apart I really need some rubber under the car. I'm spinning the hell out of tires on a well prepped track.
I do have a secret though, Running at 12' above sea level
Good luck with the Nitrous. What are you using to monitor your knock count? An aftermarket sensor? (I know Eurocharged sells one, did you get it?) I wish we could monitor knock with a datalogger through the OBDII port, but the logger and software I have doesn't give that as an option.
I remember reading your posts about the fuel fix. Nice to see options there
What part of the intake did you have work done on? I'm not really interested in doing any sort of porting to my engine (At least not yet).
Could you give the date you got those times? I'd like to lookup the DA. I race at Orlando, which is about 100' above sea level. My best time ever had a DA around -600' (in March), so we get pretty good air here in the winter/spring.
Ever since I started racing and modifying my car, I wanted to get to the point of running around mid 11's in good weather, high 11's/low 12's in the summer. But with my current setup, I'll be lucky to get an 11.99 with good air (I've added a couple of things since I ran the 12.11). I never really wanted to go with a bigger crank pulley, but maybe I need to to get to my target time. We've seen decent results with guys running water/meth injection. So I've been thinking of going that route, but would rather do it with just bolt-ons, if possible.
It's nice to see some good results from the 185. People have been "arguing" for quite awhile that the 185 just wasn't putting up the numbers in the 1/4. Looks like you have a great setup with your car. I wonder how much slower you would've been without the headers and exhaust? I wouldn't mind being a couple tenths slower if I got to keep my stock exhaust.
So the community regularly thinks that we are topping out at 11.9@116 mph, but you are saying Eurocharged can regularly get us into the 11.4@123 range with a 185, headers, exhaust, and custom tune ... or what else ("love") is needed?
If you have several Eurocharged worked/tuned cars that should be at the top of the SRT6 list, why not trumpet them? I'd buy the above setup if I was guaranteed the hp to easily trap 120+, and I'm sure others would as well.
If you have several Eurocharged worked/tuned cars that should be at the top of the SRT6 list, why not trumpet them? I'd buy the above setup if I was guaranteed the hp to easily trap 120+, and I'm sure others would as well.
Originally Posted by loungn14
your math is a little off my friend. Its more like 50whp. Sea level definately helps, but once again its probably one of the fastest SRT6's that we have done. There were tons of hours of tuning that car put in as well as some other "love" that helped complete the system. Its also why we laugh when everyone is always pointing to companies that put the fastest cars on dragtimes. I know of a few of our cars that are easily top 10 that are not listed, this one included.
Headers and custom exhaust did definately add power. Check his build thread... as much as everyone says they don't the dyno didn't lie..
Headers on the SRT6 is not something to take lightly. It is a very taxing install, and for the labor time involved most wouldn't even bother.
Lets not also forget that when we did his car my C32 was trapping around the same speeds.....hum...coincidence....
Headers and custom exhaust did definately add power. Check his build thread... as much as everyone says they don't the dyno didn't lie..
Headers on the SRT6 is not something to take lightly. It is a very taxing install, and for the labor time involved most wouldn't even bother.
Lets not also forget that when we did his car my C32 was trapping around the same speeds.....hum...coincidence....
Originally Posted by billvp
So the community regularly thinks that we are topping out at 11.9@116 mph, but you are saying Eurocharged can regularly get us into the 11.4@123 range with a 185, headers, exhaust, and custom tune ... or what else ("love") is needed?
If you have several Eurocharged worked/tuned cars that should be at the top of the SRT6 list, why not trumpet them? I'd buy the above setup if I was guaranteed the hp to easily trap 120+, and I'm sure others would as well.
If you have several Eurocharged worked/tuned cars that should be at the top of the SRT6 list, why not trumpet them? I'd buy the above setup if I was guaranteed the hp to easily trap 120+, and I'm sure others would as well.
We can't force customers to boast about their times and put them on boards and dragtimes. Thats just bad business. I know a few that run for $, and a few others even track the cars pretty heavily.
And thumper, your on the right track with water/meth. Keep those IAT's down and watch your times get better! And yes, Colin was tuned with a portable phormula KS4 knock sensor. One of the best pieces of equipment for sensing knock out there. His car has a crazy amount of torque, and we were able to achieve that with a whole heck of a lot of custom tuning.
I understand about the 185 debate. There is a lot of good information out there, easy to get the real results. Look at the C32 as well as there are more C32's that were running at the track then Srt6's! Also keep in mind we had the fastest C32's (2) out there and had already done all the homework on the platform.
How much work is it to 11 seconds? - MBWorld.org Forums
8:10 in the youtube video
Now he is a lot faster. after weighten in the rear end suspension for drag race. That was the missing part in ( ours ) the car.
And no Nitrous. Its a real Streetracer and a dragRacer.
/Guran
8:10 in the youtube video
Now he is a lot faster. after weighten in the rear end suspension for drag race. That was the missing part in ( ours ) the car.
And no Nitrous. Its a real Streetracer and a dragRacer.
/Guran
Last edited by Guran; Oct 5, 2010 at 05:08 PM.
loungn14 where do you think the best place is to inject the meth? Do you agree that spraying into the supercharger will damage the coating on the rotors ?
I got to ride in Colin's car as well, and the torque was the difference....he has a true dual exhaust....but there is something about his car, whether tune, whatever, he can sustain 3rd gear thru the 1/4....if we all can hold in 3rd without timing being pulled, our mph will go up, and our trap will go down....we shall see what the meth kit, and the new LSD does for mine in the spring....and Jake, we still need to talk tune once the meth kit is installed....I like the track tune myself...Wayne did this with the roadster, and it has been good to me...need a US41 meet...in the spring...
Set your RPM limiter even higher so you can hold on to the gears just a TAD longer - perhaps an SL55 or equivalent fuel pump. - - Promise Land at last ?????
Originally Posted by BrianBrave
Set your RPM limiter even higher so you can hold on to the gears just a TAD longer - perhaps an SL55 or equivalent fuel pump. - - Promise Land at last ?????
Originally Posted by kolevski
Are the Walbro and SL55 pumps the same capacity or does the SL55 flow more?
Originally Posted by oledoc2u
more than the 6200? How does the fuel pump help? I stayed up with the fuel threads, and didn't see any improvement from those running them...but I am all ears here...lol
Not sure if the factory setup can keep up at RPM's over 6150 (my limit)
Originally Posted by BrianBrave
Don't know. But one may also need a new fuel regulator.
Sure! - you wanna go racing, right? And you wanna race faster, right? ... The more RPM's you turn, the more fuel flow you will need during the same period of time.
Not sure if the factory setup can keep up at RPM's over 6150 (my limit)
Sure! - you wanna go racing, right? And you wanna race faster, right? ... The more RPM's you turn, the more fuel flow you will need during the same period of time.
Not sure if the factory setup can keep up at RPM's over 6150 (my limit)
Originally Posted by oledoc2u
that's my point, those who have done the fuel mods from what I have seen and heard didn't gain anything...so, at last resort, going the meth kit, for both octane and cooling....trick the air intake sensor into believing we are still cool.....and see what happens....
Just tryin' to get ya into the 11's.
Originally Posted by BrianBrave
I agree - but how many are turning more RPM's?
Just tryin' to get ya into the 11's.
Just tryin' to get ya into the 11's.


