Can't decide. Need help.
Can't decide. Need help.
I know others have wrestled with this.
I'm going to install a CAI and likely purchase it from Rob.
I'ld like to save some $$$ with the single but don't care for how it looks as I'ld prefer something that looks factory and not rice-like.
The $1000 one is out of the question, just too much cash gone but the $800 one is pricey but doable.
Will this one equrie a fuel delivery upgrade as well?
Is it a pain to install expecially moving the power steering stuff around?
Thx for your input.
I'm going to install a CAI and likely purchase it from Rob.
I'ld like to save some $$$ with the single but don't care for how it looks as I'ld prefer something that looks factory and not rice-like.
The $1000 one is out of the question, just too much cash gone but the $800 one is pricey but doable.
Will this one equrie a fuel delivery upgrade as well?
Is it a pain to install expecially moving the power steering stuff around?
Thx for your input.
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In the end it's really up to you ....................if you just want some extra go, fairly simple installation, AND supercharger whine ...........go with the single, it'll flow plenty for light mods .........BUT if you really hate it's looks so much (since the hood is mostly closed) then spring for the double, BUT it's twice, if not more, work to fit, twice as expensive, and unless you're planning manifold mods later, may not give you twice the bang for the buck .................it obviously flows better, but without further mods will you get the best out of it ?
At one time Rob used to let you upgrade later if you buy the single, but I don't know if that's still true.
I've had the single for two years now, and am totally happy, and it only takes an hour or so to fit, hardest part is getting the plastic piece out from beside the radiator ........... :O)
At one time Rob used to let you upgrade later if you buy the single, but I don't know if that's still true.
I've had the single for two years now, and am totally happy, and it only takes an hour or so to fit, hardest part is getting the plastic piece out from beside the radiator ........... :O)
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The Needswings CAI is time consuming for a first timer. Moving the power steering tube is a piece of cake, replacing it, if and when you add a supercooler, for me was difficult. Peak dyno numbers were too close to make a definite statement about how many HP. The dual seems to give a bit more grunt down low. The single is all you really need, but we all want the dual, be it for the balanced look or a little extra performance. I started with the single and currently have the dual. No other upgrades are needed. I had a pulley, CAI for over a year before getting a tune and still don't have any fuel upgrades.
Les
I should add that no body can walk by the car with the hood up and grill off and not stop and stare. The visual impact of the dual is off the charts.
Les
I should add that no body can walk by the car with the hood up and grill off and not stop and stare. The visual impact of the dual is off the charts.
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The Needswings CAI is time consuming for a first timer. Moving the power steering tube is a piece of cake, replacing it, if and when you add a supercooler, for me was difficult. Peak dyno numbers were too close to make a definite statement about how many HP. The dual seems to give a bit more grunt down low. The single is all you really need, but we all want the dual, be it for the balanced look or a little extra performance. I started with the single and currently have the dual. No other upgrades are needed. I had a pulley, CAI for over a year before getting a tune and still don't have any fuel upgrades.
Les
I should add that no body can walk by the car with the hood up and grill off and not stop and stare. The visual impact of the dual is off the charts.
Les
I should add that no body can walk by the car with the hood up and grill off and not stop and stare. The visual impact of the dual is off the charts.
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It just sucks that there's so much extra expense and work to make it happen.
I wonder if Rob would put it on sale? I'ld pounce on it in a micro-second.
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unless of course you buy the dual..........
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OUCH! Well, I can tell you I started out with a single....great performance and all. Then Woody and Rob came out with the dual. I thought, surely it can't perform any better, since you can only suck in so much air.... I did like the look, more symectrical, but a lot of money, to look good...but, I went for it. Rob did the install on the roadster. WELL, it turned into a breathing monster. Low end was sharper, and it even sounded mean...breathing at an idle...So, the dual was worth it to me, and the look is certainly there. Doesn't mean the single doesn't give you any performance because it does, but there is an improvement in low end...with the dual. I have a certain goal to shoot for with the cars, and I don't move forward until my budget gets there. So, if you like the dual, save up the dollars and go that way. That way you won't be disapointed. I have been 2 years saving and gathering parts for the coupe. I am 1 pulley away from having all the parts I need to start the build. So, save up, and get what you want.
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I wouldn't even bother opening the hood at Coffee and Cars next to McLarens and Lambo's, but with a dual CAI? Maybe paint the piping, intakes and catch can red. It would really look nice.
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I opened up the hood at a local show in Humble. A couple guys walked by and I overheard them saying how plane the engine bay looked. That show had mostly classic cars in it.
I wouldn't even bother opening the hood at Coffee and Cars next to McLarens and Lambo's, but with a dual CAI? Maybe paint the piping, intakes and catch can red. It would really look nice.
I wouldn't even bother opening the hood at Coffee and Cars next to McLarens and Lambo's, but with a dual CAI? Maybe paint the piping, intakes and catch can red. It would really look nice.
Quite satisfied with the results.
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I didn't want to go crazy with red, but I figured a "splash" was in order. So, I did just that. Painted the manifolds with hi-temp engine paint, matte red. Sanded the tops of the embossed letters with 800-grit sanding block. Need to go back and touch up a few nicks from the re-installation, but aside from that, I'm stoked with the outcome and got a TON of positive comments from the onlookers at the recent race. Also, I taped off all critical areas and sprayed the supercharger with several *light* coats of Volkswagen "Reflex Silver" metallic. Also sprayed the NW intakes with this color. This is by far the most radiant of the silvers offered by Duplicolor... much brighter than Chrysler's "Bright Silver Metallic".
Quite satisfied with the results.
Quite satisfied with the results.
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John love the look.... I might try this once I have everthing torn down...but for now.... I just want to get them done...should have done it this spring.... Poor old coupe hasn't been any where this year...just sitting and waiting... The roadster is ready...may get the manis moved over before the Dragon if time...but, I won't hold my breath, as nothing else has gotten done... But a little color under the hood sure wouldn't hurt...red even makes it look fast...
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I opened up the hood at a local show in Humble. A couple guys walked by and I overheard them saying how plane the engine bay looked. That show had mostly classic cars in it.
I wouldn't even bother opening the hood at Coffee and Cars next to McLarens and Lambo's, but with a dual CAI? Maybe paint the piping, intakes and catch can red. It would really look nice.
I wouldn't even bother opening the hood at Coffee and Cars next to McLarens and Lambo's, but with a dual CAI? Maybe paint the piping, intakes and catch can red. It would really look nice.
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If it's looks you're after there's no doubt on which way to go. Mine is a daily driver and certainly the underhood is not pretty, so i really couldn't justify the dual. I don't think fitting the dual should be too much of a pain, as I bevieve it's only a case of moving a PS line. Give me a shout Brian if you need a hand installing it when you get it................the hardest thing for me was getting those damn blocks out next to the radiator surround...........
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I didn't want to go crazy with red, but I figured a "splash" was in order. So, I did just that. Painted the manifolds with hi-temp engine paint, matte red. Sanded the tops of the embossed letters with 800-grit sanding block. Need to go back and touch up a few nicks from the re-installation, but aside from that, I'm stoked with the outcome and got a TON of positive comments from the onlookers at the recent race. Also, I taped off all critical areas and sprayed the supercharger with several *light* coats of Volkswagen "Reflex Silver" metallic. Also sprayed the NW intakes with this color. This is by far the most radiant of the silvers offered by Duplicolor... much brighter than Chrysler's "Bright Silver Metallic".
Quite satisfied with the results.
Quite satisfied with the results.
Wow....engine looks fantastic. I love how the red ties in with the engine emblem.
Great job. Need to see it in person at Fontana.