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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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Damn! I swear, recently it seems like every time I drive this car farther than 20 miles something goes wrong. This time the fuel line going out of from the fuel filter sprung a pin sized leak which resulted in leaking fuel all over the road. Thought I'd be all good hubby like and take the fiance to dinner and a show at the Kennedy Center in DC. Of course, we get stuck in rush hour traffic and as we get off the toll road heading into McLean we smell gas as we sit in stop and go traffic. Of course, we joke that the car in front of us is leaking gas. But as we continue to drive we notice it isn't going away also, suddenly, I notice the gas gauge is dropping unusually quickly. I just filled up this morning so it was full when we left. I pull over in a parking garage and sure enough it reeks of gasoline and I look under the car and fuel is pouring (it really wasn't pouring I later found) down from around the plastic cover below the fuel filter. I pull into a gas station and jack it up pull off the rear passenger side tire (in a nice charcoal suit and white dress shirt mind you) and can see that there is a pin size hole spewing gasoline from the larger fuel line leading out of the filter. I buy some duct tape and tape it around the line with a paper towel.

Since we are about 10 miles from home and don't feel like risking a night at the theater only to come out to find the fuel tank empty (doubt that would have happened) we drove home.

Well I am out the cost of the tickets and now need to replace the fuel line. I bought the OEM filter as a spare a few months ago so I might just go ahead and replace that while I am down there.

The damn rubber fuel line must have dryrotted? Only thing I can think of. It was just its time. Its just really unfortunate it happened when it did (fiance was understanding but it ruined our evening out).

Surprisingly, I couldn't find any records in the forum from searching of this happening. Anyone else have this happen?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 08:51 PM
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This happened to my car immediately before I purchased it last December... according to the documents, the owner replaced filter and pump at the same time.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 09:31 PM
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Interesting. Maybe this is something for others to look out for as well given our SRT6s at least are all around the same age.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 10:53 PM
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If anyone has any idea where I could find replacement fuel line tubing I would greatly appreciate you letting me know.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mrobinso
If anyone has any idea where I could find replacement fuel line tubing I would greatly appreciate you letting me know.
I haven't looked, so I'm talking out of my ****... is it a high-pressure line? Or just reinforced rubber hose? If that's the case, you can likely bring the old hose into an industrial hose shop, and have them cut you a length to fit. Just a thought...
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JHM2K
I haven't looked, so I'm talking out of my ****... is it a high-pressure line? Or just reinforced rubber hose? If that's the case, you can likely bring the old hose into an industrial hose shop, and have them cut you a length to fit. Just a thought...
Appreciate your feedback. Not sure how to tell, I do know it is the hose coming out of the middle of the filter (looked to be the larger of the two on that side) and had the letters "fuel line" printed on it in white.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 08:23 AM
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Go to a stealership and see if they have 05098510AA

I think that is the rubber line between the filter and the metal line going to the engine.

I see it at Mopar Part 05098510AA FUEL TUBE
for $12.88 ( not including shipping )
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 01:37 PM
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Thanks for the input.

I went to advance auto where they actually have a trunk full of assorted fuel line, fuel injection line, vacuum hose, and coolant hoses. I was able to find two fuel lines in the right sizes.

The diagrams provided in this thread https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...004-coupe.html by chevyboyac was really helpful.

The hose that sprang a leak was the "return flow to fuel tank" hose (the big one in the middle) shown in the below diagram.

The "return to fuel tank" hose was a 1/4" fuel line hose and the "feed from fuel pump" hose is a 3/8" fuel line hose at Advance Auto Parts FYI.

Hopefully this helps add to the collective knowledge of the forum since this topic doesn't seem to be covered (springing a fuel line leak) in much detail here (one of the few areas you can't find information on!).

Will post an update after the install. I am replacing the fuel filter with the MAHLE-KNECHT KL-28 unit (Part #002-477-30-01 / 0024773001: Mercedes Fuel Filter With 4 Push-on Fittings (75 mm Diameter) 0024773001 - RM European Auto Parts

 
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 05:11 PM
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I replaced the broken hose this weekend and wanted to post up a few pics to help others in the future. NOTE: I would seriously recommend all owners inspect the "feed from fuel pump" hose shown in the diagram in my previous post and in my pictures below as soon as possible. It is easy to check and could spare you losing half a tank of gas like I did and the potential for a serious fire. Looks like it may have a much higher probability than the other hoses down near the filter of wearing out due to the high pressure feeding through it from the fuel pump. Sorry for the large font but honestly I think this particular fuel line is a high wear item that I have not seen anyone advise to check specifically. All of the other hoses protruding from the fuel filter were fine, but the high pressure fuel line I have highlighted was much softer than all the other hoses and had hair line cracks all up and down it. I am surprised it did not blow much sooner.

Here is a pic to give you an idea of where the filter and pump are located. Note I have removed the "weak" line feeding from the fuel pump to the fuel filter.





A closer up pic of the side of the filter and pump from which I pulled the cracked hose:



Here is a pic of just one of the many substantial cracks in the fuel line hose I replaced:



I had intended to change the fuel filter but the lines pictured in the diagram as # 5 and # 10 were essentially fused to the old filter (which by the way seems to be working fine). since I was pressed for time in lieu of replacing the part (which had a Merc Part # on it and was not the MAHLE part I had purchased) which I believe to do I would have had to cut the old lines, I decided to let sleeping dogs lie and leave it be.

All in all this is a relatively straight forward job, just a little messy (prepare to get gas on you).

Hope this helps someone else!
 
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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I think this just happened to our 6. At least it was home and not on the road, otherwise it could have been ugly. Lost an 1/8th of a tank in the carport it seems. Thank goodness for the forum, or Kim would have had it towed to the stealership and blamed it on me taking it to the track.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by chuK_138
I think this just happened to our 6. At least it was home and not on the road, otherwise it could have been ugly. Lost an 1/8th of a tank in the carport it seems. Thank goodness for the forum, or Kim would have had it towed to the stealership and blamed it on me taking it to the track.
I was about to post in your thread about how I felt this thread I wrote documenting what I believe to be a pretty significant problem and something owners should look into was neglected! But I am satisfied now that I see you found it . My only complaint is that is that it seems my recommendation (in bold in my previous post) didn't get much visibility. I think owners need to seriously check the rubber hoses leading to and from the fuel pump lest they find themselves in the middle of nowhere with a serious fuel leak.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 11:40 PM
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These cars are not old enough to be losing fuel lines. I would think that this would be a recall in the making.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 12:31 AM
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Many SRT owners don't use them as daily drivers. Could be a reason.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 08:19 AM
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Great writeup. Would the Mopar Part 05098510AA FUEL TUBE be the same on all crossfires, SRT-6, Limited Coupe and Roadster? Thanks.


Originally Posted by mrobinso
I was about to post in your thread about how I felt this thread I wrote documenting what I believe to be a pretty significant problem and something owners should look into was neglected! But I am satisfied now that I see you found it . My only complaint is that is that it seems my recommendation (in bold in my previous post) didn't get much visibility. I think owners need to seriously check the rubber hoses leading to and from the fuel pump lest they find themselves in the middle of nowhere with a serious fuel leak.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by autumnmass
Great writeup. Would the Mopar Part 05098510AA FUEL TUBE be the same on all crossfires, SRT-6, Limited Coupe and Roadster? Thanks.
Looks like it from the parts list attached.
Go to the Fuel section.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 12:20 PM
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Let me know if I missed this along the way but has this fuel line failure only happened to cars that have had their fuel filters replaced & someone CLAMPED these fuel lines off to prevent gas from spewing everywhere in the process. I haven't changed my fuel filter yet only at 13M miles but on my past cars that I did I found that the clamping of rubber lines created a weak spot in that line from that day on. Has anyone had this problem who has never had a fuel filter or pump replaced. Especially those who have the car from new & know it's history for sure. Just wondering. I haven't had a chance to remove the plate & check my lines yet since the weather is so cold here.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossfireone
Let me know if I missed this along the way but has this fuel line failure only happened to cars that have had their fuel filters replaced & someone CLAMPED these fuel lines off to prevent gas from spewing everywhere in the process. I haven't changed my fuel filter yet only at 13M miles but on my past cars that I did I found that the clamping of rubber lines created a weak spot in that line from that day on. Has anyone had this problem who has never had a fuel filter or pump replaced. Especially those who have the car from new & know it's history for sure. Just wondering. I haven't had a chance to remove the plate & check my lines yet since the weather is so cold here.
I don't think that statement is accurate actually because my filter had never been changed, it was still the OEM unit. I talked to the guy in Advanced Auto and he indicated the reason there are different hoses for high pressure fuel lines is that the pressure combined with fuel, which is corrosive naturally, is prohibited by an inner lining in the high pressure type fuel lines but that over time those wear out. I think that iis why the feed from fuel pump line wore out so quickly but the other hoses looked fine.

I don't DD my SRT6, I don't know if that adds to anything. I really recommend everyone check that feed from fuel line hose in particular.

The cracking in the hose I showed in the pic was not from it being clamped, it appear to be fracturing all over the hose caused by the degradation of the rubber hose itself from being exposed to the elements and the corrosive fuel.

Originally Posted by mrobinso
I went to advance auto where they actually have a trunk full of assorted fuel line, fuel injection line, vacuum hose, and coolant hoses. I was able to find two fuel lines in the right sizes.

The "return to fuel tank" hose was a 1/4" fuel line hose and the "feed from fuel pump" hose is a 3/8" fuel line hose at Advance Auto Parts FYI.
I don't know if going with the MOPAR hose is totally necessary. The above referenced sizes are like $1.50 for about 3 feet of hose at Advance. Now I did some research and some people online swear that you need to buy pressurized fuel lines that have an inner lining of teflon or something. I am pretty sure the lines at advance auto aren't that quality but they have held up just fine for now.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 10:55 AM
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I see that you mention that this hose was softer than the others, I notice that it says made in the USA, I think that this part has been added later and is not OEM It may be a fuel line but not a high pressure fuel line. The other lines appear to be braided internally.

If so, the OEM parts may be just fine and no cause for alarm.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 07:14 PM
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Until recently, I drove mine as a DD (first owner, now with 86K miles). My fuel leak occurred from the pump itself, at about 65K miles.

At the time, I was told that the leak was cause by the ethanol degrading the seals.
 
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Originally Posted by Wade
Until recently, I drove mine as a DD (first owner, now with 86K miles). My fuel leak occurred from the pump itself, at about 65K miles.

At the time, I was told that the leak was cause by the ethanol degrading the seals.
Mechanics, service reps and service managers say anything they feel like at the time. I take what they say with a pinch of salt and look elsewhere for the truth. They just want your money and cannot stop lying to save their lives. Being a pathological liar helps in the auto business if you want to get ahead.
 
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