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Old Dec 15, 2014 | 12:42 AM
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New to the SRT. Damn thing has a bunch of power. Whats the best wat to control it.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2014 | 09:31 AM
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140 DOT compound autocross tires, Wavetrac limited slip differential. Throttle body reset, 100 lbs of concrete over passenger side rear wheel. Start in second gear. Wavetrac is the best thing ever.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2014 | 07:05 PM
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let grip grip drive it
 
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Old Dec 15, 2014 | 07:46 PM
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You have to do everything right and even then, if the track isn't prepped right for street tires your SOL. Even with drag radials, you've got to get it right. What's right? Lots of practice will give you some answers. One thing is for sure, you ca't just floor it.

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Old Dec 15, 2014 | 08:22 PM
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What ^^^^^^ he said. LOL.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2014 | 10:17 PM
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You have to do everything right and even then, if the track isn't prepped right for street tires your SOL. Even with drag radials, you've got to get it right. What's right? Lots of practice will give you some answers. One thing is for sure, you ca't just floor it.

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Flooring it creates a smoke screen lol. I found out the hard way.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 10:03 AM
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This question is relevant to my interests so I wish you guys wouldn't be so cryptic. I'm taking my 6 to a drag track in the near future. This won't be my first rodeo and I know how to get off the line with a manual transmission, but seriously ... how do you get the best start with this car? Remember I'm a girl. Please use small words.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 06:10 PM
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i have found that the best way for a girl to launch a car at the track is topless
 
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 07:39 PM
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All right. First you have to load the transmission to around 1500 rpms to start, release the brakes and roll into the throttle as fast as possible. Air pressure depends on the track and prep. How fast you arrive to WOT depends on the track and prep. I never learned to launch with street tires so I won't pretend to guess at pressures with them. With drag radials it's the same story except you can push harder quicker. I like 17lbs. in the drag radials. If your car is stock you can expect 13.4 @ 104 to 106 depending on your altitude and temperatures. Practice is the only way to know what's going to work and every time I hit the track the thresholds have changed. Lots of practice on a private road before hand is preferable.

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Old Dec 18, 2014 | 01:02 PM
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Great advice from Les up there. ^^ Do that.

Reducing the tire pressure a few lbs from the street pressure will likely help. Street tires to not like very low pressures though. I wouldn't go lower than 25 psi.

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One thing is for sure, you can't just floor it.
Les
But I can!

The recipe:
Mickey Thompson 255/50/16 ET Street radials, 16 psi, -0.6 degrees rear camber, 0.1* rear toe-in, Wavetrac diff, well prepped track, 1500 RPM brake stall, then: WOT. No wheel spin. 1.7 60 times.

Oh, and a short burn out. Not too long. The tires get greasy if they get too hot.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2014 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
let grip grip drive it

+1

I've had a few good 60' launches. My best with the Crossfire was 1.56 seconds. Who knows, that might be a Crossfire record. The closest 60' on Dragtimes is a 1.59.

Below is a list of all my best times.




For me, the MT ET Streets worked better than the Hoosiers, but they are both great tires. As others have stated, you'll need to adjust your launch RPM and tire pressure to find the ideal combination. Also, don't overdo it with the burnout, as the tires want to be warm - not hot and greasy.



 
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Old Dec 18, 2014 | 05:34 PM
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Thanks guys. Now that I have something to work with, I can start practicing. I know about rolling the throttle but wasn't sure how high to rev it before letting go.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2014 | 05:54 PM
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You may be able to push it a few hundred rpm but this engine WILL over power the brakes rather abruptly. I find 1500 is where you want to be and still concentrate on the tree without worrying about lurching and red lighting. My greatest success (less terrible) on street tires was at 28 psi passenger and 30 driver side. I never, in 2 years, had a great pass on street tires. Truth on the internet hurts. (i.e. I sucked for 2 years)

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Old Mar 11, 2015 | 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by boostmonkey
Great advice from Les up there. ^^ Do that.

Reducing the tire pressure a few lbs from the street pressure will likely help. Street tires to not like very low pressures though. I wouldn't go lower than 25 psi.



But I can!

The recipe:
Mickey Thompson 255/50/16 ET Street radials, 16 psi, -0.6 degrees rear camber, 0.1* rear toe-in, Wavetrac diff, well prepped track, 1500 RPM brake stall, then: WOT. No wheel spin. 1.7 60 times.

Oh, and a short burn out. Not too long. The tires get greasy if they get too hot.


I could use a little help here too. I run the same tires as you the Mickey Thompson 255/50/16 ET Street radials. My car on the 100 shot pushes 463 whp and 490 ftlbs of torque. I am at 7000 ft so elevation is a pain to say the least. I can not best a 1.79 60ft which is the same I was getting on streets. I run 11.68 best at the track here.


Do you spin your tires through the water or skip it on these tires?
I use nos out of the hole launching at 1500-2000 rpms, does not seem to spin but 60fts still are not close to what I am looking for.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2015 | 05:08 AM
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^^^^Is that Chris Aniello I see posting??? Those numbers look familiar..lol. I only run on street tires and don't ever hit the water box, just a strong scrubbing of the tires. TC off, drop it into 1st gear and hold revs at 1800-1900 RPM and roll into the throttle. Best 60' so far is a 1.766 on Hankook Ventus evo110s 285/35 at 30 PSI on both rears. But I will agree with Les on this one, there is no better way to improve than practice practice practice.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2015 | 07:09 AM
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This is how I'd learn if I could. Find an abandoned safe place and use some kind of GPS or data logger and do 0-60 runs changing one thing at a time. Be it air pressures, launch rpms, etc. You'll have all the info you need after a while. I failed with street tires and a wavetrac. If I got out of the hole it would break loose in the upper rpms in first, short shift and break loose again in second. Perhaps a softer suspension would help.

Les
 
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Old Mar 11, 2015 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
i have found that the best way for a girl to launch a car at the track is topless
your name suits you well!!!

Hahaha!!
 
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Old Mar 11, 2015 | 06:09 PM
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I have extra spiders gears when you all get done with those 1500 rpm + brake torquing starts.....just in case....lol Let me know when you need them...
 
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Old Mar 11, 2015 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisA
New to the SRT. Damn thing has a bunch of power. Whats the best wat to control it.
There is some educations video in https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ale-3-3-a.html. The last Video is with M/T ET Street. Bias-ply .
Thats for Street racing.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by velociabstract
This is how I'd learn if I could. Find an abandoned safe place and use some kind of GPS or data logger and do 0-60 runs changing one thing at a time. Be it air pressures, launch rpms, etc. You'll have all the info you need after a while. I failed with street tires and a wavetrac. If I got out of the hole it would break loose in the upper rpms in first, short shift and break loose again in second. Perhaps a softer suspension would help.

Les
You called it , yes that's me I am having the same issues! When I do hook my 2nd gear shift early as heck around 4500rpms. Not sure how to stop this from happening.
 
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