Crossfire SRT6 A place to discuss SRT-6 specific topics.

Pulley Shims??

Thread Tools
 
Old Jun 27, 2015 | 02:56 PM
  #1 (permalink)  
emforce's Avatar
Thread Starter
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 163
Likes: 0
From: Lake Saint Louis, Mo.
Default Pulley Shims??

OK- got a 65mm S/C pulley from a guy in Poland - one of a couple steel had stashed away. Did not get any shims with it though- do I need shims? (Stupid question I know).


Thanks,
Shawn
 
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2015 | 03:09 PM
  #2 (permalink)  
onehundred80's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 25,432
Likes: 647
From: Ontario
Default Re: Pulley Shims??

Originally Posted by emforce
OK- got a 65mm S/C pulley from a guy in Poland - one of a couple steel had stashed away. Did not get any shims with it though- do I need shims? (Stupid question I know).


Thanks,
Shawn
You need shims to set the initial gap, so yes shims are required. You may or may not need any additional shims depending on the gap with shims you have now, you may lead less as well.
 

Last edited by onehundred80; Jun 27, 2015 at 03:12 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2015 | 03:41 PM
  #3 (permalink)  
emforce's Avatar
Thread Starter
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 163
Likes: 0
From: Lake Saint Louis, Mo.
Default Re: Pulley Shims??

So you are saying I already have shims with the original pulley??


Shawn
 
Reply
Old Jun 28, 2015 | 09:36 AM
  #4 (permalink)  
oledoc2u's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 14,601
Likes: 36
From: IN
Default Re: Pulley Shims??

The Poland pulley does not need shims.... You will have shims on the stock pulley.... As usual the Canadian is opening his mouth about something he doesn't own nor has ever installed himself. That pulley is suspect as well for failure. I would buy the scatter shield to protect your hood and belts... If you need anything, PM me... I no longer care to partake in the everyday misinformation given out here.... I just couldn't resist today... I will pray for forgiveness later...
 
Reply
Old Jun 28, 2015 | 10:13 AM
  #5 (permalink)  
onehundred80's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 25,432
Likes: 647
From: Ontario
Default Re: Pulley Shims??

Originally Posted by oledoc2u
The Poland pulley does not need shims.... You will have shims on the stock pulley.... As usual the Canadian is opening his mouth about something he doesn't own nor has ever installed himself. That pulley is suspect as well for failure. I would buy the scatter shield to protect your hood and belts... If you need anything, PM me... I no longer care to partake in the everyday misinformation given out here.... I just couldn't resist today... I will pray for forgiveness later...
I humbly bow to your shade tree experience.
It is certainly nice to know someone in Poland has managed to accomplish something that escaped AMG, and that is to foresee all the manufacturing tolerance accumulations that necessitated the use of shims on their pulleys in the first place.
Presumably this Polish pulley is a dead ringer for the OPs pulley although another pulley was used to manufacture it.
We know that the other after market pulleys most often needed additional or less shims to obtain the required gap during set up. One pulley even had to be driven some miles before it could be set finally, a set up I questioned at the time.


Solid pulleys bolting directly to the SC rotor presumably would not need shims.
 

Last edited by onehundred80; Jun 28, 2015 at 10:46 AM.
Reply
Old Jun 28, 2015 | 10:29 AM
  #6 (permalink)  
SparkieSRT6's Avatar
SSB SRT6 405hp/401Tq
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,097
Likes: 2
From: Hooterville
Default Re: Pulley Shims??

Originally Posted by oledoc2u
The Poland pulley does not need shims.... You will have shims on the stock pulley.... As usual the Canadian is opening his mouth about something he doesn't own nor has ever installed himself. That pulley is suspect as well for failure. I would buy the scatter shield to protect your hood and belts... If you need anything, PM me... I no longer care to partake in the everyday misinformation given out here.... I just couldn't resist today... I will pray for forgiveness later...



Wow Doc. How do you know for a fact that the Polish pulley does not need shims?
I've installed four different pulleys on my SRT6 and every one came with shims except Rudy's 62mm which had the front spacer washer so you didn't need a shim.
 
Reply
Old Jun 28, 2015 | 11:54 AM
  #7 (permalink)  
RED DOG's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,875
Likes: 32
From: Key Largo FL . . . The fabulous Florida Keys
Default Re: Pulley Shims??

Originally Posted by emforce
OK- got a 65mm S/C pulley from a guy in Poland - one of a couple steel had stashed away. Did not get any shims with it though- do I need shims? (Stupid question I know).


Thanks,
Shawn
Hello Shawn, I have that same steel 65mm supercharger pulley installed on my rescue roadster (in fact I'm the one that suggested you contact "J" to see if he and any more of the hardened steel 65mm pulleys). I have it installed using the single shim from the OEM pulley. You'll have that shim when you remove your OEM pulley.
 
Reply
Old Jun 28, 2015 | 05:37 PM
  #8 (permalink)  
onehundred80's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 25,432
Likes: 647
From: Ontario
Default Re: Pulley Shims??

Originally Posted by oledoc2u
The Poland pulley does not need shims.... You will have shims on the stock pulley.... As usual the Canadian is opening his mouth about something he doesn't own nor has ever installed himself. That pulley is suspect as well for failure. I would buy the scatter shield to protect your hood and belts... If you need anything, PM me... I no longer care to partake in the everyday misinformation given out here.... I just couldn't resist today... I will pray for forgiveness later...
Get back under that shade tree, you have been in the sun too long.
I do not think what I said differs very much from your usual ambiguous statement, depending how one interprets your statement that is.
 
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2015 | 01:41 PM
  #9 (permalink)  
emforce's Avatar
Thread Starter
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 163
Likes: 0
From: Lake Saint Louis, Mo.
Default Re: Pulley Shims??

Thanks, I guess the condenses is - probably no additional shims. 'J' seems like a pretty conscientious guy and as I was a Tool + Die Maker in the far past -I know It appears to be professionally made. Thanks.


Shawn


Originally Posted by RED DOG
Hello Shawn, I have that same steel 65mm supercharger pulley installed on my rescue roadster (in fact I'm the one that suggested you contact "J" to see if he and any more of the hardened steel 65mm pulleys). I have it installed using the single shim from the OEM pulley. You'll have that shim when you remove your OEM pulley.
 
Reply
Old May 26, 2016 | 05:43 PM
  #10 (permalink)  
blasco403's Avatar
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 60
Likes: 6
From: Alberta, Canada
Default Re: Pulley Shims??

Hello,

Not to open a can of worms here... I have a code3 to install and want to make sure I have extra shims if required.

Most of you on here have way more experience, so, would these shims be the proper size if required.

Supercharger Clutch Bearing Shim Ring Washer FOR 2003 UP Mercedes Benz AMG5 5 | eBay

Thanks in advance for any assistance provided.

TTYL

Ron
 
Reply
Old May 26, 2016 | 07:21 PM
  #11 (permalink)  
onehundred80's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 25,432
Likes: 647
From: Ontario
Default Re: Pulley Shims??

Originally Posted by blasco403
Hello,

Not to open a can of worms here... I have a code3 to install and want to make sure I have extra shims if required.

Most of you on here have way more experience, so, would these shims be the proper size if required.

Supercharger Clutch Bearing Shim Ring Washer FOR 2003 UP Mercedes Benz AMG5 5 | eBay

Thanks in advance for any assistance provided.

TTYL

Ron
PM Doc he knows everything about this shim business.
 
Reply
Old May 26, 2016 | 07:24 PM
  #12 (permalink)  
blasco403's Avatar
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 60
Likes: 6
From: Alberta, Canada
Default Re: Pulley Shims??

onehundred80,

thanks for the good laugh!!!
 
Reply
Old May 26, 2016 | 11:28 PM
  #13 (permalink)  
onehundred80's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 25,432
Likes: 647
From: Ontario
Default Re: Pulley Shims??

Originally Posted by blasco403
onehundred80,

thanks for the good laugh!!!
Well, looks like you did not get that answer, so I looked this up for you.
Pay attention to step #7. It answers your query.
CLICK
 
Reply
Old May 27, 2016 | 10:40 AM
  #14 (permalink)  
blasco403's Avatar
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 60
Likes: 6
From: Alberta, Canada
Default Re: Pulley Shims??

Thanks for the pointer but I am trying to determine if the shims on ebay are the correct dimensions not what the gap has to be.

I will continue looking.

Thanks.
 
Reply
Old May 27, 2016 | 11:13 AM
  #15 (permalink)  
No2fast's Avatar
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 100
Likes: 2
From: Berlin
Default Re: Pulley Shims??

I do run this pulley from poland on my slk32 longer than a year. no shims, no issues.
proved on some longer runs up to 170mph+ on the german autobahn - of course until the ecu shuts the sc off
be sure to get the steel pulley.
Steven
 
Reply
Old May 27, 2016 | 04:48 PM
  #16 (permalink)  
onehundred80's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 25,432
Likes: 647
From: Ontario
Default Re: Pulley Shims??

Originally Posted by blasco403
Thanks for the pointer but I am trying to determine if the shims on ebay are the correct dimensions not what the gap has to be.

I will continue looking.

Thanks.
I think the 5.5 pulley is bigger than the 3.2 pulley, the bearings are larger so the id of the washers in the eBay ad are to big for you.
 
Reply
Old May 27, 2016 | 08:13 PM
  #17 (permalink)  
blasco403's Avatar
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 60
Likes: 6
From: Alberta, Canada
Default Re: Pulley Shims??

Thanks for your help, that is what I thought as well but could not confirm.

I will be doing the install this weekend hopefully. Once apart, if I need extra's I will hit up a shop that does diffs and such and see if they have the size I need.
 
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2016 | 09:57 PM
  #18 (permalink)  
oledoc2u's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 14,601
Likes: 36
From: IN
Default Re: Pulley Shims??

You are still full of **** 180. My cars are fine. The Poland pulley doesn't need any. If you want to run the 1 shim, it won't hurt anything. So kiss my USA *** 180. As usual, you sound like you know it all because you read too much. Get your hands dirty and do something. Just make sure you bought a steel one from the Poland supplier.
 
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2016 | 12:00 AM
  #19 (permalink)  
onehundred80's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 25,432
Likes: 647
From: Ontario
Default Re: Pulley Shims??

Originally Posted by oledoc2u
You are still full of **** 180. My cars are fine. The Poland pulley doesn't need any. If you want to run the 1 shim, it won't hurt anything. So kiss my USA *** 180. As usual, you sound like you know it all because you read too much. Get your hands dirty and do something. Just make sure you bought a steel one from the Poland supplier.

You do not know why shims of varying thicknesses are required on some and not others that is the problem. Your grasp of mechanics is pretty slim. No doubt you were better at handing out speeding tickets than advice on cars.
 
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2016 | 12:39 AM
  #20 (permalink)  
Michael11's Avatar
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
From: Tucson
Default Re: Pulley Shims??

Can somebody just ffffing tell me how to put my 62mm on and quit sniping?! Hell...I need to know how to get the oem off before I can get to shims.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:51 PM.