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Ok, so I changed my oil a couple weeks ago. Researched the filter and got a vacuum pump and when I got the oil, I just picked up the same oil I have gotten for years out of habit. I got 5W30 Castrol Edge Full Synthetic. It was only after I put it in that I was the sticker recommending Mobil1 0W40. I don't think it will be an issue, but want the opinions of guys that have more experience than me with these cars.
Last edited by Scalawag; Nov 25, 2016 at 04:41 PM.
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Attached is a listing of all the approved motor oils that meet M-B's 229.3 specification, which is the recommended oil grade for the Crossfire. The Castrol Edge 5W30 is on the list.
Later,
Last edited by dedwards0323; Nov 25, 2016 at 08:53 PM.
Attached is a listing of all the approved motor oils that meet M-B's 229.3 specification, which is the recommended oil grade for the Crossfire. The Castrol Edge 5W30 is on the list.
Later,
Oils for diesel engines are on the list as well but you would not want to use them.
Just because it is on the list does not mean it is OK to use.
A 30 grade oil may be a bit to thin at operating temperature.
Last edited by onehundred80; Nov 25, 2016 at 11:48 PM.
I would up it to 5w-40 next change. You will be fine. Plan on going to post office this morning to ship some things. I will get your tranny dip stick out to you. Thanks for you service.
Oils for diesel engines are on the list as well but you would not want to use them.
Just because it is on the list does not mean it is OK to use.
A 30 grade oil may be a bit to thin at operating temperature.
If you visit Porsche 924, 944 or 928 forums you'll find that most folk recommend a 15W40 or thicker oil. While the topic of which brand of oil is best rages from time to time, the feeling has long been held that these hot-running motors need a thick oil. Naturally these weights can usually be found with diesel certification; however, as long as it also says it meets SH, SJ, SL, SM or SN you're good to go. Not great stuff in the winter mind you, but who drives these cars then?!
My P cars never leave home without Rotella T3 15W40.
Oils for diesel engines are on the list as well but you would not want to use them. Just because it is on the list does not mean it is OK to use. A 30 grade oil may be a bit to thin at operating temperature.
I somewhat disagree with your viewpoint. If M-B lists the oil as a tested & verified oil for the respective specification (229.3), then it is a recommended oil by M-B for use in the engine. However, I do agree that just because the oil is on the list, it may not be a brand type &/or grade that I would use.
And like so many things about this car, there are multiple lists available (see attached file) for reference. So there are a multitude of oils that meet M-B's specification for these cars & M-B's recommendations aren't consistent from one list to another. So one might question the source of the information in just about any of these lists.
One will also notice that the attached states that the paper element oil filter is acceptable for cars using the FSS oil monitoring system. But most of us use the fleece filter element anyway. And I thought the fleece element was specifically recommended for the SRT-6 motor (someone can correct me on this); the paper filter element was acceptable for the NA motor. So if the SRT-6 uses the same FSS oil monitoring system, why isn't the paper element filter still a viable choice? That's always been somewhat of a puzzle to me.
Oils for diesel engines are on the list as well but you would not want to use them.
Just because it is on the list does not mean it is OK to use.
A 30 grade oil may be a bit to thin at operating temperature.
I too must question you here. It is my understanding that any oil on 229.3 is fine for this engine.
I also notice the the viscosity range approved in 229.3 is rather narrow, that is, there are no oils such as 20W50 or 15W50 or anything even close to such think oils approved. This implies to me that 229.3 is a rather narrowly defined list specific to this and a few other engines. NOT to a wide variety of engines as your post kinda implies.
What oils on there do you think are off limits? (Asking cause I run Mobile 1 5W50 here in the south and refuse to use anything else).
I just use Mobil 1 0w-40 European Spec. which meets 229.3. Available at the mart at the wall. Why bother with anything else. (Judge gets 10w-40, computer cars 10W-30, Crossie the 0W-40 all Mobil 1.
OK the chart just lists all oils that meet the 229.3 and not just those for any particular car. My owner's manual says "Only use synthetic engine oils, approved to MB 229.3 or MB 229.5, such as
Mobil 1 SAE 0W-40." and WallyWorld has that.
Of course the OM also says "Engine Oil (with filter) 3.2 L Engine 8.5 Qts. 8.0 Liters" which is not quite right.
OK the chart just lists all oils that meet the 229.3 and not just those for any particular car. My owner's manual says "Only use synthetic engine oils, approved to MB 229.3 or MB 229.5, such as
Mobil 1 SAE 0W-40." and WallyWorld has that.
Of course the OM also says "Engine Oil (with filter) 3.2 L Engine 8.5 Qts. 8.0 Liters" which is not quite right.
I always put 8 litres in my car, no problem.
My '04 OM says 5.5 litres and that is what you meant to say.
Seriously, this is NOT your standard car engine I suggest you research this motor and MB 229.3, a lot, BEFORE you post generic engine specs.
Gentlemen, please!
Engine oil grade is a function of an ambient temperature range in which the car operates. Chrysler has chosen to keep things simple by making a singular recommendation: 0W40. So, too, nowadays Porsche does the same thing; however, if you think that owners of late-model 911s restrict themselves to that single suggestion you are mistaken. At least not by those who drive the cars on the track.
Consider this ACTUAL oil chart for a Porsche 928 (which I own) by way of example.
Yes, Porsche is saying that it is perfectly acceptable to use 5W20 up to and including a 20W50 but you must govern yourself according to the temperature table. Clearly the oil one would choose for use in Finland might differ from the deserts of the United Arab Emirates. My point is using 5W40 or 5W50 is perfectly acceptable in North America.
Originally Posted by pizzaguy
20W60 in the M112 engine? Really? If you don't get blown off the page for that post I will REALLY be surprised. I get all kinds of crap for putting 5W50 in mine......
I may get "blown off this page" as you say but at least I know I won't be blowing up my motor come the hot days of summer if I use a 5W50or 10W... Perhaps as a final thought (for me anyways) one might wonder if these light weight oils are for preserving longevity or upping the manufacturers CAFE numbers...
Engine oil grade is a function of an ambient temperature range in which the car operates. Chrysler has chosen to keep things simple by making a singular recommendation: 0W40. So, too, nowadays Porsche does the same thing; however, if you think that owners of late-model 911s restrict themselves to that single suggestion you are mistaken. At least not by those who drive the cars on the track.
Consider this ACTUAL oil chart for a Porsche 928 (which I own) by way of example.
Yes, Porsche is saying that it is perfectly acceptable to use 5W20 up to and including a 20W50 but you must govern yourself according to the temperature table. Clearly the oil one would choose for use in Finland might differ from the deserts of the United Arab Emirates. My point is using 5W40 or 5W50 is perfectly acceptable in North America.
I may get "blown off this page" as you say but at least I know I won't be blowing up my motor come the hot days of summer if I use a 5W50or 10W... Perhaps as a final thought (for me anyways) one might wonder if these light weight oils are for preserving longevity or upping the manufacturers CAFE numbers...
I NEVER said only use Mobil1 0W-40, where you got that from is amazing. I also suggest you not compare Porsche motors to MB motors, it is apples and oranges. These new motors are much tighter by design, and the oils were designed to support them for a long life. It is not the old way of 'oils are oils' anymore. I may be wrong but I believe Porsche made only ONE motor for MB (a 5 cyl diesel, according to a brief research). You can put whatever you want to in your motor BUT my LPW may be invalidated if I put anything else in it but 229.3 or 229.5 oils. Also, the FSS system requires this synthetic 'standard' of oil so it works as designed.
Oil Change booboo
Seriously, this is NOT your standard car engine I suggest you research this motor and MB 229.3, a lot, BEFORE you post generic engine specs. 
I NEVER said only use Mobil1 0W-40, where you got that from is amazing. I also suggest you not compare Porsche motors to MB motors, it is apples and oranges. These new motors are much tighter by design, and the oils were designed to support them for a long life. It is not the old way of 'oils are oils' anymore. I may be wrong but I believe Porsche made only ONE motor for MB (a 5 cyl diesel, according to a brief research). You can put whatever you want to in your motor BUT my LPW may be invalidated if I put anything else in it but 229.3 or 229.5 oils. Also, the FSS system requires this synthetic 'standard' of oil so it works as designed.