No need for the prepsol, just let it sit in the rain for a few days. I probably shouldn't say this but our chemists have picked at this stuff and it appears to be very similar to many tire shine products on the market. I remember years ago as a teenager with my first car, washing and waxing with a buddy and his first car - we applied some Armor All to his tires and wondered how it would make his paint look. What did we know, we were 17 at the time! So he applies AA to his entire car and....... it looked awesome!!! The shine was incredible, but it only lasted a few days.

We also track sales of not only our products but competitors as well. These "all new" products hit the market with huge fanfare, sell like mad for a few months and then just die off. That alone says a lot.

 

A great product and so easy to apply. After a wash it takes very little time to use the spray and my car looks great. I am not too concerned that it won't last as I like reapplying it after a wash. I first read about it on the forum which once again proves how useful this site really can be. I was on holidays for the last two weeks and I was looking forward to reading the posts upon my return. Great place to chat.

 

I've been digging a bit more into what ICE is really all about and from their MSDS sheet it shows that it's 12-15% Stoddard Solvent (by weight) which used to be used in dry cleaning solvents and is otherwise known as a "white spirit". It's also 50-60% (by weight) Hydrotreated Light Distillate Solvent. Now, I don't mind the fact that there are petroleum distillates in this or any other product, per se, but the amount and type of petroleum distillates is what gets me.

One of our most popular products for the past 50 years or more has been Meguiar's #7 Show Car Glaze. Among other things, this product has been used to prep many class winners at the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance and countless other high end to run of the mill car shows world wide. It's great stuff and gives an amazing shine. But it's designed to do nothing more than provide a high gloss to a very well prepared surface. It can't correct any defects, although it certainly hide minor defects, and it offers no protection. It's merely a beauty treatment that would need a wax or sealant to "lock it down" so to speak. Hence the name "Show Car Glaze" Yep, it contains petroleum distillates, but not the same kind nor in anywhere near the concentration of ICE. But the basic similarities confirm what I've always suspected about ICE - it's essentially a pure polish which is why it's fairly easy to apply and remove, it won't stain trim or leave a residue. It's also why many people have complained that it streaks, it doesn't last, and it feels "oily".

I don't see anything that would indicate it offers the protection of a true wax or sealant, or that it's designed to last on the paint very long at all. Our Show Car Glaze is the same way, but it has never been marketed as a protectent.

But it's the type and quantity of petroleum distillates in ICE that bothers me.

 

Mike: Great summary. Hopefully this ends the discussion on this product. I wouldn't get near it.

 

Sounds to me like somebody protecting their turf....I use ICE and find it an excellent product...I have no turf....Just restore cars and do paint work....

 

So TW Ice contains Stoddard Solvent. I wonder when California will wise up and ban it. Gotta protect the environment and all that.

 

I have tried and compared the Ice to NXT 2.0 on black paint and in my opinion the 2.0 is a clear winner and you can't beat the longevity. I do use the Ice detailer to get the bugs off.

Steve

 

Hey Mike, I was wondering, I used the Meguire's Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner, then the Show Car Glaze, and "locked it down" with High Tech Yellow Wax. My question is, will using the Show Car Glaze now to perk up the shine remove the protective wax, or would it be better to use the Ultimate Detail Spray? Thanks for all of your expert help. It's really interesting and helpful to have the access to your lab analysis.

 

No turf to protect, really. I just want people to use good stuff on their cars, whether that good stuff is Meguiar's or not. You can spray Armor All on your finish and it will look wet and glossy - that doesn't make it a good choice for the job. You can apply Meguiar's Show Car Glaze, or 3M Imperial Hand Glaze to your car and it will look great. Those are both excellent and highly respected products, but if you apply them thinking they'll offer protection (and plenty of people are under this misconception) then you won't be happy with either of them.

The reality is that sales of the whole ICE line are down significantly already, as is usually the case with the "next best thing" products that come out from time to time. We, and our competitors, get regular sales reporting from major retailers showing sales by SKU so we know who's gaining and who's falling. Now, I fully understand that being the "biggest" doesn't automatically make you the "best" by default. But if the product does what it claims to do and is easy to use, people will continue to buy it. If not, they won't. Our consumer line Cleaner Wax, which has been around since 1973, is still outselling ICE. There's a reason for that.

There a lot of great products out there - Zaino, Pinnacle, Adams, Eagle One, Zymol etc. Sure, some of those are boutique or specialty products and not your usual "consumer" grade stuff, and Meguiar's has a full range of professional line products that will go head to head with any of them. You won't see me, ever, slamming any of those products. I may be of the opinion that they're overhyped or over rated, but they are all excellent products.

I'm not here to convince everyone that you should be using nothing but Meguiar's, but when I come across something like what I'm seeing in ICE, I have no problems voicing my opinion. And I realize it's just than, an opinion.

 

Using Show Car Glaze over your wax will not remove the wax as SCG is a pure polish and contains no cleaners. It also offers no protection and is not designed to last (the name "Show Car" Glaze should tell you something) so it may not be your best choice in this context. I'd suggest using the Ultimate Quik Detailer instead and save the SCG for the next time you do a proper wax job.

 

i use ICE sometimes when i detail...
it does have the tendancy to be streaky... but this is true of any polish... CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN is the name of the game to avoiding streaks, plus going over the car by hand with a terry cloth

but mostly i use Rejex.. best stuff i've ever had