Ill be getting a pulley and tune from eurocharged next month and am trying to find out if there is any difference inbetween the Needswings Supercooler and the eurocharged heat exchanger. I was told this from eurocharged "Our custom-built HE's use furnace brazed cores (no epoxy) resulting in better heat dissipation and are heliarc welded with CNC precision machined billet aluminum necks.

They have a 1.8 liter fluid capacity and 4000 square inches of fin area"

Needswings is
At approximately 4 times the volume of the factory heat exchanger, this Supercooler will greatly improve the efficiency of the factory unit. Conceived by Waldig designs.
Includes:
Supercooler
Hoses/Clamps
Drain
Power Steering Cooling replacement line kit
Mounting Hardware

Just trying to see if there are basically the same product just a different model. Both are approx the same price as well. Looking for some input as to which is better/more efficent if they are not the same.

 

Waldig one seem to be much larger. I would go for the DCAI and supercooler from needswings and the tune and S/C pulley from Eurocharged. Soon they will release ther s/c pulley when it's been tested orderly. Saving up for it

 

DCAI is on the way, IC replacement pump just ordered. brakejob next week or two. Hoping to get the eurocharged pulley and tune next month. just trying to see about the cooling as i would like to get the heat exchanger dont before or very close to the pulley install

 

What S/C pulley are you talking about?

 

Well, it is more up to the company to inform us but as far as I know there are a S/C pulley being tested and they are just waiting for results to see that it is suitable for mass production and ready for us. I have been informed by them myself. I am an amateur when it comes to this but apparently it should be like the C3-pulley and not the others.

 

ok, thanks for the heads up as i was unaware

 

As a rule, generally when a vendor/supplier informs a customer individually about upcoming developments, it's most prudent to allow the vendor to make the reveal to the public, not for the customer to prematurely announce 'potential' availability of a product. That puts the vendor in a tight spot when their pants are dropped in front of everyone without their consent...

My humble opinion, of course...

 

..Removed..

 

Id check ur email, i ordered my right about then and i just got a fedex tracking number today

 

true but id be pissed if i ordered a pulley and then 2 weeks later the new better version is released.

 

Well I believe you could start a thread asking "what is better, a S/C pulley or a crank pulley" and there shall be many different opinions. Therefore you should be asking yourself, what is it that you are after, can the pulley I buy provide it, if YES just buy it. New improved products will always come and go.

 

My point was that 2 "weeks" might actually be 2 "months" but people on a forum hear the word soon and people start hammering the vendor for ETAs... Before the vendor has even officially had a chance to clear his throat and announce the item.

 

Surely all that I stated above could be just lies and just fantasy. Who knows, not even I do. I see your point but I don't get all the hush hush and it all being a somewhat secret. If it was a secret they simply should not tell anyone (me specifically as I have difficulties holding secrets ) and certainly not state it in e-mails. If they did maybe they should state that not to spread the word around. Nevertheless spreading the word is what I think they want. A new product up a head. compare it to an iPhone 5

P.S. I did get it from someone on the forum before my knowledge of it so I gather it could be true.
D.S. sorry for bad english but I am knackered after playing golf in the sun 100'F today plus awful humidity.

Say hi to the underbite

 

What week was that, as I know he took some time off...Rob will take care of you. No need to worry...

 

jake spoke of the new pulley on the mercedes forum in a thread fubu started. as with all the products they produce e/c wont release it until its tested to failure so they know the limits. its built but not released.
any competent machine shop can machine the oem down to close to c3 specs for under 100$ if you cant wait

 

Both Eurocharged and Needswings are great companies. That being said when it comes to cooling there is only one choice - the SuperCooler.