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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 03:10 PM
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Default Are K&Ns really that effective?

I know lot's of people use K&Ns and some people swear by them. I've also heard many people say they can't feel anything at all.

Are there any numbers anywhere that support the argument that they would increase airflow enough to give a boost in HP? It doesn't necessarilly have to be about the XFire. I'm just looking for numbers from any stock performance vehicle upgraded only with K&Ns.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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http://www.knfilters.com

In their "facts" section they've got links to two independent lab tests showing airflow comparison charts. The K&N flows considerably more air than most stock filter elements.

I'll see if I can dig around the stratus board a bit and look for some dyno charts. I know we've got a couple floating around somewhere where someone had dyno'd their car with nothing more than a k&n filter. It showed like a 4whp gain.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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i thought that the car is based on ram-air.


where are the filters to change it?
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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The car is most definitely not based on anything even remotely resembling ram-air. In fact, the Pontiac Grand Am advertising "ram-air" (and Trans Am WS6 of days past) simply use a marketing ploy, a neat idea, and some fancy hood scoops to push the product. It don't even have a true ram air effect.

The filters are located inside separate compartments inside the engine cover. Pull the cover off and you'll see where they are located.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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how do i pull the cover off without breaking it?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 10:49 AM
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Default Re: Are K&Ns really that effective?

It won't break. It just pulls off.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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Not sure about all that but i have the k&n filters & nothing to talk about just the fact is that yeah i got a k&n air filter. That's it nothing more nothing to even talk about sighs.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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Default Re: Are K&Ns really that effective?

I installed K&N's and could not really tell much difference if any... Just my 2c.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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Default Re: Are K&Ns really that effective?

So why go through the expense? Are there other benefits?
 
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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i actually thought i read the K&Ns were cheaper than the MB replacement air filters --
 
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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There has been independent testing of K&N filters, which proved them to be rather inefficient when it come to cleaning the air drawn by the engine, resulting in very high amounts of silicone contaminates in the oil supply. This is why I steer clear of high flow filters. They cause excessive engine wear, something K&N probably doesn't tell it's customers.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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Default Re: Are K&Ns really that effective?

Hey dynamicS, do you still have your Sprint Booster?
 
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 04:15 PM
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sorry man, sold it a couple weeks ago. but you can try SLKfans.com he's cheaper than the manufacture.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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Alright thank you!!
 
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by FPMartinez
So why go through the expense? Are there other benefits?
Washable, no need to buy replacements.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 09:47 PM
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Lifetime air filter and 1 million mile limited warranty.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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Default Re: Are K&Ns really that effective?

I have the K&N's but I don't really think it makes any more power, Maybe 1 or 2 hp but who knows for sure. I do like that I just have to clean and re-oil instead of buying new filters.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 12:27 AM
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I will never use K&N's again. I did have a pair in my Crossfire at one point, but after reading up a bit on them, I would recommend to anyone to stay away.

What it boils down to is that they flow a little bit more because they do not filter nearly as much dirt.

Is the tiny hp increase worth the extra dirt that is getting into your engine?

http://home.stny.rr.com/jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm


This is also an interesting test, although not nearly as scientific:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest3.htm
 
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 08:29 AM
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Default Re: Are K&Ns really that effective?

I noticed a bigger difference in my Mustang than I did with the Crossfire.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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Default Re: Are K&Ns really that effective?

Originally Posted by markr6754
Lifetime air filter and 1 million mile limited warranty.
If you'll notice, that million mile warranty is on the filter, not your engine!
 
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