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Old Sep 29, 2015 | 08:41 AM
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This may have been asked before, so please don't roast me...
I just finished redoing the lenses on my headlights and I've noticed something. On all three cars that I've done this to there seems to be some kind of finish that has to be sanded through first before getting to the actual lens plastic. I do the refinish the hard way with sand papers and different bobbing and polish compounds from my other hobbies. Any thoughts on this...and is this what is included in the kits? And if so, can you buy just this "refinish sealant" by itself.
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Old Sep 29, 2015 | 08:58 AM
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All the major polishing product company's sell a seperate polish for plastic. Most auto parts stores have several brands on hand. I have had good luck with Mothers products
 
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Old Sep 29, 2015 | 10:38 AM
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I use PlastX from Walmart. Just spray on and wipe off like detail wax. Simple to use.

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Old Sep 29, 2015 | 11:20 AM
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I saw this new product from Meguiar's on TV the other day:

Perfect Clarity Headlight Restoration Kit | Meguiar's

It includes a protectant spray that "Lasts up to a Year".

FWIW and YMMV

BTW-I've done dozens of headlights over the past few years using your time-tested method: sand from 800 thru 3000 and polish. The "layer" you speak of is just that. Either a sprayed-on or a laid-in layer of a tough polycarbonate before the Lexan (a different polycarbonate) is injected into the mold.
Tough stuff, 'eh? Once that layer is damaged, it must be removed. I've never found a way to polish/repair it.
Of course, once it's gone, the regular structural Lexan is exposed to the elements-and UV. Either polish it out every 3-6 months or re-coat it with something like this stuff.

Or XPEL/ Lamin-x films.

And that's all I've got to say about that...
 

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Old Sep 29, 2015 | 01:31 PM
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Did mine this way....

 
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Old Sep 30, 2015 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by maxcichon
I saw this new product from Meguiar's on TV the other day:

Perfect Clarity Headlight Restoration Kit | Meguiar's

It includes a protectant spray that "Lasts up to a Year".

FWIW and YMMV

BTW-I've done dozens of headlights over the past few years using your time-tested method: sand from 800 thru 3000 and polish. The "layer" you speak of is just that. Either a sprayed-on or a laid-in layer of a tough polycarbonate before the Lexan (a different polycarbonate) is injected into the mold.
Tough stuff, 'eh? Once that layer is damaged, it must be removed. I've never found a way to polish/repair it.
Of course, once it's gone, the regular structural Lexan is exposed to the elements-and UV. Either polish it out every 3-6 months or re-coat it with something like this stuff.

Or XPEL/ Lamin-x films.

And that's all I've got to say about that...
Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for...the re-sealer part.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2015 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by James1549
I use PlastX from Walmart. Just spray on and wipe off like detail wax. Simple to use.

James

James? That's a polishing compound. Just applying and removing doesn't work.

From Meguiar's website:

Product Features:
Microscopic Diminishing Abrasive™ technology helps remove light oxidation, chemical degradation, surface contamination, stains and light surface scratches
Gel formula is designed to restore optical clarity to both rigid and flexible clear plastics
Water-resistant polymers provide long-lasting, durable protection to keep plastics clear
For best results, apply with a Meguiar's® High Tech Applicator Pad or Ultra Plush Super Terry (both sold separately) and use an Ultra Plush Super Terry or a Supreme Shine® Microfiber (both sold separately) for the final wipe-off

Just sayin' buddy.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2015 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by maxcichon
James? That's a polishing compound. Just applying and removing doesn't work.Just sayin' buddy.
Been using it for 5 years now after I restored my headlights. They still look like the day I restored them. Works for me. Did you read this part?

"Water-resistant polymers provide long-lasting, durable protection to keep plastics clear"

Just saying'...
 
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Old Sep 30, 2015 | 09:02 PM
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Been using it for 5 years now after I restored my headlights. They still look like the day I restored them. Works for me. Did you read this part?

"Water-resistant polymers provide long-lasting, durable protection to keep plastics clear"

Just saying'...
Bud, yes. I did. and I also read this:

"..Just spray on and wipe off like detail wax,"
 
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Old Sep 30, 2015 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by maxcichon
Bud, yes. I did. and I also read this:

"..Just spray on and wipe off like detail wax,"
Well that was my mistake. I squirt it on, swirl it around a bit, and wipe off. Sorry.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2017 | 06:08 AM
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well... I found Pasticsx is great for maintaining good lenses but you really need something more abrasive to repair them
3m make a good kit with pads and polish ,you just need a drill and patience.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2017 | 03:12 PM
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What your sanding thru is a clear coat that protects the plastic lens. You would be amazed at some of the headlights i've repaired over the years. sand and polish all you want but the lens needs a clear coat for a long lasting repair.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2019 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by smfrycruzr
This may have been asked before, so please don't roast me...
I just finished redoing the lenses on my headlights and I've noticed something. On all three cars that I've done this to there seems to be some kind of finish that has to be sanded through first before getting to the actual lens plastic. I do the refinish the hard way with sand papers and different bobbing and polish compounds from my other hobbies. Any thoughts on this...and is this what is included in the kits? And if so, can you buy just this "refinish sealant" by itself.
Thank you ...
thats normal. If u don't want, it won't work or last! I just finished doing all 5 of my cars about 6 months ago and they still look brand new!
 
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Old Feb 20, 2019 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Bzak1pgh
thats normal. If u don't want, it won't work or last! I just finished doing all 5 of my cars about 6 months ago and they still look brand new!
The coating you are sanding thru is a clearcoat that protects the plastic from ultra violet rays. Without it you would have to constantly repolish your nicely restored lenses. The lens can be sanded with very fine sandpaper and clearcoated with a high quality two part clear for a factory like appearance. There are plastic adhesion promoters that can aid adhesion but some may cause a cloudy film between the lens and clear.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2019 | 07:50 PM
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Here's the UV block coating kit from Sylvania, who makes one of the best, if not the top rated, headlight restoration kits on the market today......

https://www.amazon.com/SYLVANIA-Headlight-Restoration-Headlights-Protection/dp/B01KIVYE6G/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=headlight+clearcoat&qid=1550709978&s=gateway&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.com/SYLVANIA-Headlight-Restoration-Headlights-Protection/dp/B01KIVYE6G/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=headlight+clearcoat&qid=1550709978&s=gateway&sr=8-1


 
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Old Feb 20, 2019 | 09:16 PM
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Can’t beat the price. Also see it’s highly rated, most users seem to be happy with the look of their newly restored lights.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2019 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by paintergman


The coating you are sanding thru is a clearcoat that protects the plastic from ultra violet rays. Without it you would have to constantly repolish your nicely restored lenses. The lens can be sanded with very fine sandpaper and clearcoated with a high quality two part clear for a factory like appearance. There are plastic adhesion promoters that can aid adhesion but some may cause a cloudy film between the lens and clear.
Here is what I bought from Amazon. It comes with everything u need including the Clear Coat!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B072FQMY3Z?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_pd_title
 
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Old Sep 21, 2019 | 11:48 AM
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Does anyone have an extra head light spring clip they can sell me or point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance
 
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Old Sep 21, 2019 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bono
Does anyone have an extra head light spring clip they can sell me or point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance
Erik Hyden just finished making a whole new batch. catch him over on facebook,
 
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 11:22 AM
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Sam's club will do them for about $40. Five year guarantee. Come out near perfect. Had them redone for free after four years due to a very minor fogging. No questions asked.
 
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