gas prices increase today... wow...
Originally Posted by FP
Maxwell, you are starting to scare me. 
They (big oil) could also be getting us ready to switch over to using more alcohol fuels, this could be another reason why there are no refineries being built. but there are more farmers getting into the alky biz and they are building new plants to keep up with the high demand the oil companies have be using to dilute our gasoline with. Most likely we will start seeing a lot of flex fuel cars being sold.
Its kinda weird that California only has one Alky gas station in the entire state, strange...
Last edited by Maxwell; May 23, 2007 at 02:12 AM.
O to live in the US or near it. $1.22 per liter for high test. 3.78 l. per gal. =$4.61 per gal. Thank god I can go over the boarder get a good meal fill up couple of drinks and a tank of gas. Only in America.
Originally Posted by sterling013
Well Maxwell, I see we need a refresher course in free enterprise 101. Profit is good. Without profit, there would be no investment, no business, no employment, and no tax revenue. Do you own stock and expect profit? The last time I checked, big oil was only making 9% profit. If my business only made 9% profit, it would be shut down and the capital would be invested in more profitable opportunities.
Maybe we should look at the vocal minority green extremists and spaghetti spined politicians who have not allowed a refinery to be built in over 25 years, or drill in a 12 square mile area of Alaska, or level heavy taxes on each gallon we purchase, to name a few. Environmental extremism is simply the old socialism.
I think I will go out and put some of that great premium fuel in my Crossfire. I will not even look at how much it costs, because I do not care, it just goes on my Visa. Then I will go out, in that direction, and see what is out there and have fun driving just for fun’s sake. Is this a great country or what?
Maybe we should look at the vocal minority green extremists and spaghetti spined politicians who have not allowed a refinery to be built in over 25 years, or drill in a 12 square mile area of Alaska, or level heavy taxes on each gallon we purchase, to name a few. Environmental extremism is simply the old socialism.
I think I will go out and put some of that great premium fuel in my Crossfire. I will not even look at how much it costs, because I do not care, it just goes on my Visa. Then I will go out, in that direction, and see what is out there and have fun driving just for fun’s sake. Is this a great country or what?
No Sterling013 - this is more like WAR PROFITEERING 101 - our govt. needs more funds to pay for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, (and BTW – we are still paying for troops and rebuilding in Kosovo – 8 years later – Thanks Mr. Clinton) (and the old domestic pork spending habits that never end) to fund this requirement, Oil companies reduce domestic production thus raising gas prices:
Remember – most of the oil wells in the USA are at low GOVT. lease rates with wells built in the 1970’s and 1980’s that have long since paid for themselves – thus the oil from them are pumped at a pure profit.
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_sum_crdsnd_adc_mbbl_a.htm
(Please notice oil field production from the year 2000).
Reduce supply while demand rises - and spot prices go through the roof. (As priced by OPEC) Add to that that the US Govt. removed 10% of the world market crude from the free market to “Increase” the US petroleum reserve and BANG!! World spot market prices jump even more.
Do you need me to illustrate a supply and demand graph?
Windfall profits that the consumer (BTW that's you and I) pay at the pump - are lent to our deficit spending government at a mere 4.5% for 2 years
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/RT/RTGateway?page=institHome
Thus the consumer pays once at the pump and must pay again when the T-Bill is due (unless the government refinances the debt again)
It’s called the double screw. You and I will pay twice - it's just that the second time is being put off (refinanced) until sometime in the future (less we vote out the scoundrel that raises our taxes to pay these t-bills off) - but that day will come to us (just like it did to the Romans to pay for their expansion) and we will be under the JACK BOOT of the establishment.
Republicans and Democrats both use it (oil windfall profits) to finance the deficit spending. (Why do you think they call it DEFICIT?)
The law of SUPPLY & DEMAND would state that if we needed to build more refineries, then the supply of refined gasoline would be at a shortage.
Right?? - more refineries mean more supply, oil companies would only spend $$Billions$$ of dollars to build new refineries if you needed to sell the extra product - right.
Any gas stations in your area running out of product to sell (GAS?)
You wouldn’t buy more milk cows at your dairy (and the feed to fuel them) if the super market shelves were still stocked with milk and they were tossing out expired product - would you??
Any Gas stations in your area run out of gas - or do they have all they can sell?
Figure it out folks.
Originally Posted by bigpapapuff
Firstly Diesel is more expensive than petrol here.
95Ron Petrol (standard) is currrently £0.99 per litre therefore @ 6.25 litres to one of your US Gallons means you would be paying £6.19 per US Gallon (Approx $12.38 of your US dollars per US Gallon).
So when you complain, just take a look at what IS going to happen and consider what size engine cars you drive, the Crossfire is a large engined car here in the UK.
There is no oil shortage.
There is no gasoline shortage.
An oil guy from an oil family from an oil state gets elected, gas prices triple.
Google "Ockham's Razor".
The most impressive accomplishment is the thieves being defended by those from whom they steal. Nice trick, that.
There is no gasoline shortage.
An oil guy from an oil family from an oil state gets elected, gas prices triple.
Google "Ockham's Razor".
The most impressive accomplishment is the thieves being defended by those from whom they steal. Nice trick, that.
http://gasbuddy.com/
this will help you find where the cheapest gas is near where you live. it's a great site.
this will help you find where the cheapest gas is near where you live. it's a great site.
Last edited by grphtmtlc11; May 23, 2007 at 10:23 AM.
Originally Posted by Boris
You guy's over the pond have a long way to catch up with us Brits I'm afraid.
Firstly Diesel is more expensive than petrol here.
95Ron Petrol (standard) is currently £0.99 per litre therefore @ 6.25 litres to one of your US Gallons means you would be paying £6.19 per US Gallon (Approx $12.38 of your US dollars per US Gallon).
So when you complain, just take a look at what IS going to happen and consider what size engine cars you drive, the Crossfire is a large engined car here in the UK.
Firstly Diesel is more expensive than petrol here.
95Ron Petrol (standard) is currently £0.99 per litre therefore @ 6.25 litres to one of your US Gallons means you would be paying £6.19 per US Gallon (Approx $12.38 of your US dollars per US Gallon).
So when you complain, just take a look at what IS going to happen and consider what size engine cars you drive, the Crossfire is a large engined car here in the UK.
Just out of curiosity, as a Brit, how much did you pay for hospitalization insurance last year?
Originally Posted by +fireamx
We all know that the Brits have it "tuff" when it comes to high gasoline prices over there. We just figured that was a penality you had to pay for driving on the wrong side of the road. 
Just out of curiosity, as a Brit, how much did you pay for hospitalization insurance last year?
Just out of curiosity, as a Brit, how much did you pay for hospitalization insurance last year?
Originally Posted by Boris
You guy's over the pond have a long way to catch up with us Brits I'm afraid.
Firstly Diesel is more expensive than petrol here.
95Ron Petrol (standard) is currently £0.99 per litre therefore @ 6.25 litres to one of your US Gallons means you would be paying £6.19 per US Gallon (Approx $12.38 of your US dollars per US Gallon).
So when you complain, just take a look at what IS going to happen and consider what size engine cars you drive, the Crossfire is a large engined car here in the UK.
Firstly Diesel is more expensive than petrol here.
95Ron Petrol (standard) is currently £0.99 per litre therefore @ 6.25 litres to one of your US Gallons means you would be paying £6.19 per US Gallon (Approx $12.38 of your US dollars per US Gallon).
So when you complain, just take a look at what IS going to happen and consider what size engine cars you drive, the Crossfire is a large engined car here in the UK.
Originally Posted by dobro
There is no oil shortage.
There is no gasoline shortage.
An oil guy from an oil family from an oil state gets elected, gas prices triple.
Google "Ockham's Razor".
The most impressive accomplishment is the thieves being defended by those from whom they steal. Nice trick, that.
There is no gasoline shortage.
An oil guy from an oil family from an oil state gets elected, gas prices triple.
Google "Ockham's Razor".
The most impressive accomplishment is the thieves being defended by those from whom they steal. Nice trick, that.
“It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.”
– Voltaire
Originally Posted by Maxwell
I'm afraid we American have no interest in catching up with you Brits. What with your government taking away your rights, guns, and not to mention the Police monitor everyone through close circuit video. Thats one place I would hate to see influence our politicians and Govmnt.
Originally Posted by Boris
So when you complain, just take a look at what IS going to happen and consider what size engine cars you drive, the Crossfire is a large engined car here in the UK.
I was seduced by the sexy lady, and now I feel like I have to make child support payments to the oil companies!
Originally Posted by Maxwell
I'm afraid we American have no interest in catching up with you Brits. What with your government taking away your rights, guns, and not to mention the Police monitor everyone through close circuit video. Thats one place I would hate to see influence our politicians and Govmnt
Originally Posted by Emthusiast
Approx 4 litres to a gallon and not 6.25.
Originally Posted by +fireamx
Just out of curiosity, as a Brit, how much did you pay for hospitalization insurance last year? 
But relating to health care, yes we can get it free, eventually if we are lucky, but this is because we have an amount taken off every pay cheque to pay for this, from the day we start work. (so just like having private).
Even then, because the health system is so crap now, most people above a certain level have private cover as well, the same as you do, because if your really are ill, you never know when you will be treated or what standard of treatment you will receive from the National Heath System.
Just out of curiosity...what did you pay for your Crossfire...I paid £20,000 ($40,000) for a Roadster this time last year and it was a year old then! New would have been ($54,000).
Originally Posted by Maxwell
I'm afraid we American have no interest in catching up with you Brits. What with your government taking away your rights, guns, and not to mention the Police monitor everyone through close circuit video. Thats one place I would hate to see influence our politicians and Govmnt.
Most people in the UK would say our government has been influenced by the Blair/US/Bush Alliance for the last 10 years.
Last edited by Boris; May 24, 2007 at 09:01 AM.
Originally Posted by Mediacritic
Oh dear. You haven't been keeping up with what's been going on here at home, I'm afraid. 



