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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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Sorry to hear it.

Start reading:

http://www.legis.state.wi.us/statutes/Stat0346.pdf
 
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by maxcichon
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Thank you for finding that looks like i violated 346.57(2)(h) No posted speed limits back country road is default 55mph first speed violation is no less then $40 and no more than $300 second is no less then $40 and no more then $600. Even though nothing is posted IT says

but an alleged failure
to post a highway as required by this paragraph is not a defense to
a prosecution for violation of the speed limits specified in sub

Im screwed, But might not lose my licsence
 
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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Don't waste your money on a lawyer, he just wants more of your money. It sounds like you are S.O.L. Go to court and plead mercy. Maybe, if you have a decent record, the judge will reduce it, or have you attend a defensive driving class. Also, the officer MIGHT not show up. Talk to the D.A. to see if he will give you a deal. If you try to play hardball, you will most likely lose and get hammered. Don't try to make excuses, just beg for lieniency.

Just some friendly advice from a cop. Good luck.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 08:28 PM
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I respect what Call 911 says, but having been trained, re-certified in my state way too many times for my 30+ yrs, I will just say this...we must prove our target, use of sound for a radar track, she should have used this method if radar, was it radar? Let me explain, she can prove she had a track on you only by testifying she knew she had you because her radar unit, by use of sound, tracked you until you passed by at which time the sound fell off positively identifying you as her target. Now, 2 things, there can't be proof of a track if she didn't use the sound...most officers don't because it is annoying to listen to, but it should be used if you want to prove your track, second, she showed you a locked speed, meaning she did not complete the track...officers should never lock their radar...to sum this up, I would fight w/ a known lawyer schooled in traffic court...not just any lawyer...all this said, if it was laser, which I don't think it would be, you're sol...also high speeds are hard to prove unless she had the track...also she must testify her radar unit was checked for calibration before her shift, during her shift and after her shift...this is usually done by a tuning fork...a schooled traffic lawyer will ask all these questions...having said all this, I have never in my 30 yrs lost a traffic citation in court...but, I never wrote bad paper either...if an officer does their job by the book so to speak, she or he wouldn't lose either, but some officers don't....good luck...but for what you are facing...fines, insurance, etc...I would hire a very good traffic atty to at least plea it down if he can't beat it thru a technicality....
 
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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I posted on expertlaw.com NO LOVE THERE. TO be honest the two things I have learned the most about this experience is it is time to grow up, and there is nothing better then a bunch of car guys who most I have never meet, who are willing to take the time to give help for any situation.

Once again great advice I appreciate it and will start calling lawyers first thing tomorrow.

Originally Posted by oledoc2u
I respect what Call 911 says, but having been trained, re-certified in my state way too many times for my 30+ yrs, I will just say this...we must prove our target, use of sound for a radar track, she should have used this method if radar, was it radar? Let me explain, she can prove she had a track on you only by testifying she knew she had you because her radar unit, by use of sound, tracked you until you passed by at which time the sound fell off positively identifying you as her target. Now, 2 things, there can't be proof of a track if she didn't use the sound...most officers don't because it is annoying to listen to, but it should be used if you want to prove your track, second, she showed you a locked speed, meaning she did not complete the track...officers should never lock their radar...to sum this up, I would fight w/ a known lawyer schooled in traffic court...not just any lawyer...all this said, if it was laser, which I don't think it would be, you're sol...also high speeds are hard to prove unless she had the track...also she must testify her radar unit was checked for calibration before her shift, during her shift and after her shift...this is usually done by a tuning fork...a schooled traffic lawyer will ask all these questions...having said all this, I have never in my 30 yrs lost a traffic citation in court...but, I never wrote bad paper either...if an officer does their job by the book so to speak, she or he wouldn't lose either, but some officers don't....good luck...but for what you are facing...fines, insurance, etc...I would hire a very good traffic atty to at least plea it down if he can't beat it thru a technicality....
 
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 06:19 AM
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Do you have a court date?
Please keep us updated with details. You never know when it might happen to another one of us (knock-on-wood).
 
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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i have had a high speed ticket before. not that high but high. if it was a small road your lucky you did not get a ticket for illegal passing if its double yellows in the middle. second deffenately go to court. probably the smartest thing i did was go to court. lowers fines and points all around.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by makeithappen
i have had a high speed ticket before. not that high but high. if it was a small road your lucky you did not get a ticket for illegal passing if its double yellows in the middle. second deffenately go to court. probably the smartest thing i did was go to court. lowers fines and points all around.
This is a very good point-especially in Wisconsin. At least 15 years ago, the fine for passing on yellow was higher than DUI.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianBrave
76mph on a California Freeway and you'll get pulled over and given a stern warning to speed up and try to keep pace with the flow-of-traffic!

Same in Texas.

However, I'm in Chicago for now. Apparently here anything over 100mph is considered reckless driving or some BS. Automatic something or other taken away. I wasn't really listening.

I've gotten two tickets since I've been up in Chicago. NEITHER OF THEM WERE FOR SPEEDING. I mean if I am going to get a ticket, I should at least get it for something good.


EDIT: I actually did get a speeding ticket the other day, from an unmarked expledition. I went WOT from a stop light all the way through third, then coasted back down knowing the speed limit dropped. I had to be doing 80+. He wrote the ticket for 54 because that is what he got me on rolling radar. Boo.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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I had her send the ticket so I am just waiting for it to show up. I wish I would have just waited for it, the suspense is killing me. I just don't want to see reckless on there as well as speed.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyangel04
things I have learned the most about this experience is it is time to grow up
Can I get you to say that again, this time real slowly; I think I may have misheard what you said! LOL
 
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyangel04
Due I show up in court and hope the cop doesn't show, and if he does, Hope he doesn't have the radar log book and calibration book and motion for dismissal from lack of evidence.
Sorry to hear about your ticket Jonny. The only thing I found out when researching the law for my ticket is that if the cop doesn't show then you can plead not guilty.

Minnesota doesn't allow for continuations on speeding tickets, I hope the Wisconsin laws are different.

If the $$$ of the ticket isn't too bad, then I wouldn't worry about it too much. The part I was worried about most was the possibility of my insurance premiums increasing, but they, surprisingly, have not increased since my ticket was paid.

As for the growing up part, yeah, we all feel that way when we get in trouble. I felt that way when I got my ticket and I was 31 back then As for having a mouth on ya, you always struck me as the ladies man type.

BTW - if you end up deciding to pay the ticket, then do so well in advance of the court date, it really eases your mind.
 

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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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insurance co's usually check records every 2 yrs....so you are just lucky so far...and they do that randomly unless something alerts them, accident, inquiry, that sort of thing...
 
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 03:14 PM
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zahanma, in IN, anything over 26 mph is considered wreckless driving, but you have to cite that separately from the speeding violation, it isn't automatic...some do, some don't...what johnnyangel is lucky about is, she could have cited him for a "speed contest"...which is "drag racing"...wreckless driving and the yellow line thing is driving left of center...which is 5 points in IN, wreckless is 6 points, and the numbers grow...defensive driving school will get you 4 points back....so, wrong place, wrong time...got to choose where you play...its like the Dragon over the wknd, you run down the road for a ways, the way is clear, so turn around and make your run back...but there is always that chance one is coming at you from the other way...drag strip is the only safe place to play....get a group together and rent it for fun...the speeding ticket will cost more than your share of rental....with no ins penalties...
 
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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got the ticket today I was right about the violation


 

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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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$500? Holy Hannah!!! Ya know, if you could stay out of WI for 7 years, you don't have to pay that ticket. LOL
 
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by CALL911
Don't waste your money on a lawyer, he just wants more of your money. It sounds like you are S.O.L. Go to court and plead mercy. Maybe, if you have a decent record, the judge will reduce it, or have you attend a defensive driving class. Also, the officer MIGHT not show up. Talk to the D.A. to see if he will give you a deal. If you try to play hardball, you will most likely lose and get hammered. Don't try to make excuses, just beg for lieniency.

Just some friendly advice from a cop. Good luck.
What would you have done being one of our finest had you been the officer on duty? Honestly.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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http://www.e-codes.generalcode.com/c...t=ws&cb=1852_A

Section 346.57 (4) I do not see a reckless charge.
The total is $4.14 for each mile per hour of total speed, Not bad.
Or, skip town for seven years
 
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 03:14 PM
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$500 fine for getting clocked at 121??? If thats all your getting out of it.PAY THE FINE AND SMILE!!!!.You got off cheap my friend------------------------Dave
 
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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Heck, the lawyer would soak ya for that much easy!
 
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