"Mdaniels4 brought up politics because of me...he hates me like poison I fear. Can't blame him, I'm not that fond of me either. -Rush"

No Rush, I don't hate you like poison, and I'm sorry that you're not that fond of you either. I did however bring up politics in this because of you. That much is true. The last time went too far, but like family, we stick together because of our deep commitment to that which we care about. And for that I appreciate your passion around what you think to be true, and of the car, and for being a part of this forum. It has made my life all the better because of it. Thanks.

Again I will say that this is a great forum, comprised of really great people, and I for one am also addicted to getting on it in the morning, checking posts throughout the day, and finishing up at night. Mark

 

Whoa, someone missed their medication.

 

I love this forum. Of course I also love the Crossfire.
I've found lots of helpful information from great people here.
This is the BEST forum I've seen.

 

Bye.......

 

'night, Jane.


Hey - XXFire07, why don't you say hi?
We may be grumpy, crotchety and territorial, and
a lot of us may razz and argue with each other, but
much of it is friends playing tag and trying to get each others goat.
Also, please note the difference between well reasoned and supported argument and Jerry Springer.

Don't take our critiques and comments on this thread too personally; you did after all go out of your way to **** in our yard. It is, however, a welcoming place without a fence and a lot of good folks and ideas.

For anyone with an XF, this forum is like none other. You WILL need this resource; Do NOT burn bridges needlessly. BTW - If you get directed to http://kalecoauto.com/ in answer to your first couple of requests for help, just consider it a bit of friendly hazing.

By now, I certainly hope you have spent some time actually taking a decent look at this forum as a whole, and not just indulging in narcissistic lurking to see what a splash you've made on one lousy thread after reading just a few posts. If not, there are worse ways to spend your time.

 

We try to be respectful when being helpful and are appalled when people get uppity with us. By the way, you seem obsessed with the i word, you used it five (i) plus one (I) times in six sentences. Obsessive about ourselves are we?

Sixty six responses in eight hours, I think you have hit a nerve.

 

Have to agree... next to a shop manual... this forum is the best place for xfire advice. i haven't met anyone face to face but yet I feel connected here.

 

How about that? Thanks to the dude, dormant posters are coming out of the woodwork! Hey, by the way, did you all notice that Chrysler does not look like it'll go away. Chapter 11 is one of the best things that can happen to a company in a financial bind like Chrysler -- and that's where it appears to be heading to:

Chrysler: UAW and Obama on board

As deadline to prove viability nears, UAW ratifies deal and president says he's 'hopeful' automaker can make it, even if it files for bankruptcy.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Chrysler LLC picked up important support Wednesday night from its rank-and-file union members and President Obama.
The fate of the troubled automaker remained in doubt, and a bankruptcy filing remained a possibility.
But a vote of union members and comments by the president pointed to the prospect that the troubled company could meet a Thursday night deadline to secure an additional $6 billion in federal help and a chance of survival that seemed questionable only a week ago.
Late Wednesday night the United Auto Workers union announced that its membership at Chrysler had overwhelmingly ratified a concession contract reached between the company and union leadership on Sunday night.
"This has been a challenging time filled with anxiety and uncertainty for our membership," said UAW President Ron Gettelfinger. "Our members have responded by accepting an agreement that is painful for our active and retired workers, but which helps preserve U.S. manufacturing jobs and gives Chrysler a chance to survive."
Members voting in union halls at meetings on Wednesday voted in favor of the pact by majorities of between 80% and 94%, depending upon their job classification.
Under the deal approved Wednesday, the union would end up controlling 55% of Chrysler's privately-held stock. That stock, which the union is accepting rather than $7 billion in cash it was owed by Chrysler, will be used to cover the future health care costs of 65,000 retired UAW members and their families.
Just hours before the vote was announced, Obama, speaking at a prime-time news conference, said he was more hopeful than he was a month ago that a deal could be made between Chrysler and Italian automaker Fiat.
"What we've seen is the unions have made enormous sacrifices, on top of sacrifices they've previously made," Obama said. "You've now seen the major debt holders come up with a set of potential concessions they can live with. All that promises the possibility that you can get a Fiat-Chrysler merger."
Last month, a Treasury Department task force determined that Chrysler was not viable as a stand-alone company. The panel outlined a series of steps the company would have to make to get the $6 billion it said it needed to continue.
In addition to a deal with Fiat, Chrysler was required to win concessions from the unions and get banks and others who had lent the company $7 billion to greatly reduce the debt load.
In turn, expectations grew that a Chrysler bankruptcy and eventual liquidation would close the business. But Obama said Wednesday the company is likely to survive, no matter how the process plays out in coming days.
"The fact that the major debt holders appear ready to make concessions means that even if they ended up having to go through some sort of bankruptcy it would be a very quick type of bankruptcy and they could continue operating and emerge on the other side in a much stronger position," Obama said.
Still the president acknowledged that any possible deals with creditors and Fiat were not yet final. Talks might continue right up until midnight Thursday, according to an Obama administration official speaking ahead of the press conference.
Fiat could finalize a deal with Chrysler even if the company is in bankruptcy, according to various reports, and may be close to doing so.
Major banks that are among those that have lent Chrysler $7 billion have already agreed to significantly reduce that debt, Treasury Department sources said Tuesday.
The UAW has not released details of its new labor pact with Chrysler. But the union's decision to accept privately-held stock in Chrysler for the union-controlled trust fund to cover retiree health care was a key concession.
Chrysler has just under 39,000 U.S. employees, 60% below the number of American workers it had at the beginning of the decade. It also has about 9,400 workers in Canada, where 87% of the Canadian Auto Workers union members ratified a separate labor deal over the weekend.

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According to a report in the Washington Post, Chrysler Chief Executive Bob Nardelli would be replaced by Fiat management as part of a bankruptcy plan being finalized by Treasury.
The Obama administration, along with the Canadian government, would provide an additional $4 billion in financing while Chrysler is in bankruptcy, the Post reported. The United States would provide another $5 billion in support following a bankruptcy reorganization.
Under this plan, the United Auto Workers union's retiree health plan would get a 55% stake in the company, Fiat 35%, the U.S. government 8% and the Canadian government 2%, according to the Post.
Chrysler creditors would get $2 billion and no equity stake while Cerberus Capital Management, which now owns most of Chrysler, would get nothing, the report said.
General Motors, which has also received federal help to avoid collapse, has until the end of May to reach deals with its creditors and unions. It proposed a plan Monday that would give its creditors a 10% stake in that company, while giving the government and the union up to an 89% stake.

CNNMoney.com senior writers Chris Isidore and Jennifer Liberto contributed to this story. First Published: April 30, 2009: 12:14 AM ET

 

Maybe Montana Crossfire gave him a a## chewing. Squirrel Crusher

 

Don't let the door hit you in the butt!

 

What the original poster ended up doing was cause us to draw our wagons in a circle to defend ourselves. I've seen that happen on other forums, when an outsider criticizes, all of a sudden everyone is best friends - much like when siblings stick up for each other when an outsider attacks.

This forum really is a good community especially considering how diverse we are in many ways, but obviously drawn together with our shared passion, the XF.

 

So true, so true.......

 

I guess what I don't understand is why you guys are wasting your time with this guy. He's just a troll. He didn't post any actual content to back up his claims and stated that he was only going to post once and that was it. So responding to him in a manner that assumes he will actually get anything out of it.

I'm sure the original poster is getting quite the laugh and general amusement that his poorly written first and only post is getting such attention.

 

XXFire07's post reminds me of an old Cherokee story.

A boy and his grandfather are sitting around the campfire. "Son," said the wise old indian," life is about a battle inside each of us between two wolves."
"One is Evil....It is anger, envy, hate, jealousy,sorrow, greed, arrogance, selfpity,guilt, inferiority, lies, falsepride and....ego."
"The other is Good..... it is joy, peace, love, hope, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, compassion, truth and faith."

The young brave thought for a moment and asked," So grandfather, in this battle, which wolf wins?"

The old Cherokee smiled and replied simply, "The one you feed."


roadster with a stick

 

Dear Troll,

So you joined the forum only to tell us how much we suck? Congratulations on that intellectual achievement. Your mother must be so proud.

Any online community is going to have disagreements. Just look at the Political section of this forum and you'll see that we regularly enjoy beating the hell out of one another. However, what you'll notice is that most of the time, regardless of how contentious an exchange gets, we're all respectful about the disagreements and you rarely see any carry over from topic to topic.

I have learned more about the Crossfire on this forum than I could have every hoped to learn from any other source and consider many people on here as friends. We welcome new members all the time and help them with their questions and issues, although if you don't like it, don't join. Pretty simple.

 

This looks like a good time to say thanks to all the members who have helped me out with advice, it has saved me hundreds in parts costs and dealer costs!
because I try to do most of my own repairs.
also the great examples and how too advice give me hope to someday do those same upgrades.
Ive owned many cool cars but never had the help thats available here!

(Politics are like **** dont like it dont look!)

 

YOUR MOTHER WEARS DIRTY UNDERWARE!!!!!

 

Well said !!!

 

"Its A Joke Right?"

 

LOL nice bait post.