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How I dealt with the sky falling (headliner)

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Old Sep 1, 2018 | 02:24 PM
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Old Sep 1, 2018 | 06:24 PM
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What fabric did you use?
 
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Old Sep 1, 2018 | 08:20 PM
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Looks to be fiberglas mat material. Woody
 
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Old Sep 1, 2018 | 11:25 PM
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Seems tough to get back in the car since it won't flex much to fit in the door opening...

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Old Sep 2, 2018 | 10:08 AM
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Seems tough to get back in the car since it won't flex much to fit in the door opening...

James
No epoxy resin was used so it may be a little stiffer than the OEM one but not much.
I do not think you need to flex the liner panelto remove it, unfortunately I am about to have first hand knowledge on that so I will add that in this post later.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2018 | 03:11 PM
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The base is primed and painted white. The fiberglass cloth is glued on with 3M spray adhesive. Two coats of non yellowing varatane to seal the cloth, otherwise it would unravel.

The liner loses some flexibility so it's harder to reinstall, specially if you have roll bars
 

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The base is primed and painted white. The fiberglass cloth is glued on with 3M spray adhesive. Two coats of non yellowing varatane to seal the cloth, otherwise it would unravel.

The liner loses some flexibility so it's harder to reinstall, specially if you have roll bars
What made you decide on this material?
Does it sound harsher inside the cabin? I would think the harder surface will not absorb noise as much as the softer surfaces.

I am thinking of using a heat resisting contact glue from a can and using a roller rather than a spray can, Something with a longer working time.
What do you think of that?
 
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I went back with a stretchable material, but without foam backing. There many more choices you can use besides actual headliner material with foam. If you use a foam back material, it will have to be done again when the foam dries out and separates. The glue is not the issue here.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2018 | 09:13 PM
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What made you decide on this material?
Does it sound harsher inside the cabin? I would think the harder surface will not absorb noise as much as the softer surfaces.

I am thinking of using a heat resisting contact glue from a can and using a roller rather than a spray can, Something with a longer working time.
What do you think of that?

I picked fiberglass cloth to match with the silver carbon fiber dash trim kit I might install later, like I had in my black N/A. IMO the 3M adhesive is more user friendly. You can spray 1 or both surfaces for a more secure install. You can bond the media between 30 seconds and 10 minutes. Unlike contact glue, you can lift up the material to reposition and it's simpler to apply. No need to worry about overspray since you are working on a bench.

As far as noise suppression, I can't tell the difference before/after. Don't forget, there is more sound suppressing material on the other side of the headliner, Feels like 2"of foam/cotton combination
 

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Old Sep 2, 2018 | 09:26 PM
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I went back with a stretchable material, but without foam backing. There many more choices you can use besides actual headliner material with foam. If you use a foam back material, it will have to be done again when the foam dries out and separates. The glue is not the issue here.
It's funny how of all the cars I owned, only theCrossfire had this headliner issue. Other Mercedes I owned had no issues. I'm thinking Mercedes cheaped out on proper foam for their partner/customer Chrysler at the time
 
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