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I bought my wife an SRT6 several years ago as a present. We now find ourselves retired and moving to the mountains 22 miles from a paved road. She really loves the car so we hate to sell it. I googled as well as I could and can not find any lifted/rally modded Crossfires. Crazy idea? Thoughts? Where would be the best place on the forum to ask?
 

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I think it's a great idea! Maybe you could send an email to ground control or bilstein?
 

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I think it's a great idea! Maybe you could you send an email to ground control or bilstein?
Thanks. I figured people would freak out if I even considered doing something like that to an SRT6!

Not a Bilstein fan and haven't even gotten as far as really looking at the suspension yet. Accutune Off road does my shock tuning for my off road rigs so I'll get with them if I get to that point. I'm thinking wheels and tires are going to be the biggest issue.

I have a friend working on a Photoshop for me, I'll post it when I get it.
 

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Thanks. I figured people would freak out if I even considered doing something like that to an SRT6!

Not a Bilstein fan and haven't even gotten as far as really looking at the suspension yet. Accutune Off road does my shock tuning for my off road rigs so I'll get with them if I get to that point. I'm thinking wheels and tires are going to be the biggest issue.

I have a friend working on a Photoshop for me, I'll post it when I get it.
What's your experience with bilstein? They are the oem manufacturer of the dampers on the Crossfire I want to buy a set of b12s so I'm curious. I know they make off road suspension too (it's on their website). You could do a safari build like what people do to 911s.
 

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What's your experience with bilstein? They are the oem manufacturer of the dampers on the Crossfire I want to buy a set of b12s so I'm curious. I know they make off road suspension too (it's on their website). You could do a safari build like what people do to 911s.
My experience with Bilstein is strictly off road. I had 4 out of 6 shocks on my Dodge leaking after driving the Dalton Highway and various dirt roads on an Alaska trip and have been less than impressed with their shocks on Jeeps. I run Sway-A-Way and Fox on my off road rigs.

Honestly I haven't done anything other than maintenance on a "car" since I sold my autocross built 240z in the late 80s. My wife has had an Audi 80, Saab 900, Integra Type R and the SRT6 since we've been together and I've been under strict orders not to modify them! I did tinker with her Wrangler a bit though. With that in mind, I like the Safari builds and would probably think more along those lines if it were mine but this build would be limited to just what is needed to run graded (sometimes poorly) dirt roads. So thinking: suspension, wheels/tires, and skidplates if needed. No lights, racks, bumpers etc.
 

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My experience with Bilstein is strictly off road. I had 4 out of 6 shocks on my Dodge leaking after driving the Dalton Highway and various dirt roads on an Alaska trip and have been less than impressed with their shocks on Jeeps. I run Sway-A-Way and Fox on my off road rigs.

Honestly I haven't done anything other than maintenance on a "car" since I sold my autocross built 240z in the late 80s. My wife has had an Audi 80, Saab 900, Integra Type R and the SRT6 since we've been together and I've been under strict orders not to modify them! I did tinker with her Wrangler a bit though. With that in mind, I like the Safari builds and would probably think more along those lines if it were mine but this build would be limited to just what is needed to run graded (sometimes poorly) dirt roads. So thinking: suspension, wheels/tires, and skidplates if needed. No lights, racks, bumpers etc.
Add mud flaps. I still haven't seen that on a crossfire. Please keep us posted. You made me realize that maybe I should buy the koni dampers.
 

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Abd mud flaps. I still haven't seen that on a crossfire. Please keep us posted. You made me realize that maybe I should buy the koni dampers.
​​​​Check around here before you make any decisions on shocks. Bilstein may be the best option for these cars, I wouldn't know. Back in the day I ran KYB struts on the 240z.
 

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I live on a dirt road which is county maintained, but plenty rough in the summer with sand wash board surface and water washed small gullies. Take it slow and I have never had a problem. The under body panel on the rear of the Crossfire is like 19 or 20 gage. Really thin and not all that tough, so gully jumping and rock climbing just won't happen. Maybe rent a space and keep it inside somewhere at the paved end of that dirt road.
 
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I live on a dirt road which is county maintained, but plenty rough in the summer with sand wash board surface and water washed small gullies. Take it slow and I have never had a problem. The under body panel on the rear of the Crossfire is like 19 or 20 gage. Really thin and not all that tough, so gully jumping and rock climbing just won't happen. Maybe rent a space and keep it inside somewhere at the paved end of that dirt road.
I am 22 miles from pavement and 60 miles total to the nearest anything. We've been summering there for many years and we only leave the ranch once every 2 to 3 weeks so I'm afraid it would never get driven if it was stored that far away.
 

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I bought my wife an SRT6 several years ago as a present. We now find ourselves retired and moving to the mountains 22 miles from a paved road. She really loves the car so we hate to sell it. I googled as well as I could and can not find any lifted/rally modded Crossfires. Crazy idea? Thoughts? Where would be the best place on the forum to ask?
A Wavetrac LSD, and traction tires.
 
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at one time i was going to use a 4x4 charger to make my crossfire a 4 wheel drive ( for drag racing) but it raised the car almost 4".,,, u would be surprised how close everything almost fits.,,same tranny just with a transfer case on it,, this stuff is cheap if you buy a wreaked car at a auction ,,, not much modification if u know how to weld. good luck and have fun,,i have a place in the Ga. mountains,, and could not get to the house without 4wheel drive so i paved about 200 yards now it is fine. jim
 
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A Wavetrac LSD, and traction tires.
I'm not too worried about LSD as we have two Jeeps and a truck on 37s for the nasty stuff. Any suggestions on tires. I figure the 19" rears will have to go.
 

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at one time i was going to use a 4x4 charger to make my crossfire a 4 wheel drive ( for drag racing) but it raised the car almost 4".,,, u would be surprised how close everything almost fits.,,same tranny just with a transfer case on it,, this stuff is cheap if you buy a wreaked car at a auction ,,, not much modification if u know how to weld. good luck and have fun,,i have a place in the Ga. mountains,, and could not get to the house without 4wheel drive so i paved about 200 yards now it is fine. jim
4" would definitely be too much. I contacted Ground Control and they said they could do a 2" suspension. Welding and basic fabrication are within my skillsets but I don't want to permanently modify the car. I would like everything to be bolt on if possible.
 

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I'm not too worried about LSD as we have two Jeeps and a truck on 37s for the nasty stuff. Any suggestions on tires. I figure the 19" rears will have to go.
I was thinking that a LSD, with your loose dirt and gravel washboarded roads in the summer would be a nice benefit for the crossfire; and less likely to get stuck in the winter. As far as tires go, I'm pretty sure with the vehicles you have, that you probably know more about M/S traction tires than I. Wish you well w/ the decisions. I also agree with the above post about our sheetmetal rear end; take it easy. A few here have had their rear swaybar attachment point rip out.
 
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4" would definitely be too much. I contacted Ground Control and they said they could do a 2" suspension. Welding and basic fabrication are within my skillsets but I don't want to permanently modify the car. I would like everything to be bolt on if possible.
Awesome!!!
 
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4" would definitely be too much. I contacted Ground Control and they said they could do a 2" suspension. Welding and basic fabrication are within my skillsets but I don't want to permanently modify the car. I would like everything to be bolt on if possible.
From what I have seen from constant use of a car on this type of road is that the car will be covered in dust everywhere which will set like concrete when it dries from any moisture. This car will get ruined.
Get a Jeep.
 
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I was thinking that a LSD, with your loose dirt and gravel washboarded roads in the summer would be a nice benefit for the crossfire; and less likely to get stuck in the winter. As far as tires go, I'm pretty sure with the vehicles you have, that you probably know more about M/S traction tires than I. Wish you well w/ the decisions. I also agree with the above post about our sheetmetal rear end; take it easy. A few here have had their rear swaybar attachment point rip out.
I wouldn't use it in the mud and snow anyway. The mud is so full of clay where I am that I would use my Rubicon or my truck which also has front and rear lockers.

I guess wheels more so than tires will be the challenge.

I'll look at that area and see if it looks like it can be beefed up.
 

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From what I have seen from constant use of a car on this type of road is that the car will be covered in dust everywhere which will set like concrete when it dries from any moisture. This car will get ruined.
Get a Jeep.
Dust yes. Moisture no, as long as I don't get caught in the rain. We're talking the high desert south west US, with very little humidity. It wouldn't see constant use either, just an occasional trip to town. She doesn't drive it that much now, it only has 40k on it.

Have two Jeeps and a truck.

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