As you probably noticed (manual transmission) the gas pedal is about 2" further away than the brake pedal, which makes it impossible to "heel-toe" when racing.

Anyone who might have some suggestions on how to align the pedals a bit better would be appreciated !!

 

Just add a 2" spacer at top.

 

Brake with left foot!

 

You are kidding right ? Or have you never driven a manual transmission, expecially on the track... Thanks for your input.

 

Your Welcome! I do drive my car on the track Solo 2. Solo 2 may be a little different, in the fact that I am usually only in 2nd gear, sometimes 3rd for brief moments, heel toe is at a minimum. So I use my left foot to brake with so I can trail brake deeper and keep the revs up for exit of most corners were needed. Works well for racing the cones to get the front end to point too.

I use the same tecniques as in my shifter Kart...left foot braking!

 

KelJen: I'm dumfused as usual... How can you shift with your left foot on the brake and your right on the accellerator... OH WAIT !!!, automatic transmission, right ? Sorry, my bad... I just don't think about a track car with an auto...

 

Nope, I have a 6 speed!

 

Heel & toe is not what race car people do ........ God only knows how that term got started.
Try rolling your right foot off the right edge of the brake pedal onto the gas pedal maching the RPM as if you were already in the lower gear and the you will have achieved the " heel & toe" operation.

 

Thanks for your unput, if you have a 6spd manual, you will notice there is a 3" +/- differerence in the lateral distance between the gas pedal and the brake ! Try rolling your left foot to the left and feather the brakes while still maintaining the RPM on the gas pedal. The upward distance from the gas pedal to the brake pedal prevents this. In addition, the flange on the gas pedal is at the top, so if you rolled your heel to the base of the gas pedal and used your toe (if you could) to feather the brake, you would only be pressing into the lower attachment of the gas pedal instead of the upper, where the linkage is...

Try it before you start spouting NEWBIE

 

@#$@$%, Some of you knuckleheads really **** me off with your useless comments... Especially those who just arbitrarily answer questions which you have no @#@$ clue... Do us all a favor... If you don't have a cognatave answer to a question... Don't !@#!# post a response...

 

So, answer the question. How can you shift with your left foot on the brake, and you right, on the accelerator ? The world awaits your response !!!

 

clutchless speed shifting...

 

Well like I said, with autocross you do not need to shift alot, mostly second gear racing, however the CF is difficult to "heel toe". I put my toe on the brake and my heel on the gas pedal.

 

Mr HDDP
I'm bringing this up to the membership relative to your off program note to me whicih was a lot more aggressive than what was written above. You stated that you didn't want to hear from me until I got a Masters SCCA licence, etc.

I wrote to you expressing that in fact I have under my belt seven SCCA championships and numerious Track records listing some of the tracks.

Furthermore, I've raced abroad as well as owning and racing Champ and Sprint Cars to date which I would ( I think ) qualify me to answer a fairly benign question concerning heal and toe.

Real race drivers meant no disrespect but mearly try to put the question in the proper prespective. As I wrote to you, I drive an auto-stick and did test the six speed and found no problem down shifting useing the proceedure I indicated.

In the past, being relatively new to this form, some technical articles were very good and I did make some minor coments such as cracking the bleeders prior to putting in new pads so the somewhat contaminated fluid wouldn't be pushed up into the ABS.

I sorry that you have such distain for people that try to help flashing your supposive credentials of superiority, but on the otherhand you won't have to worry about me as I don't intend to be a member any longer.

 

NO, Please Rick: your input with this forum is appreciated. I just think you did not understand the question. Perhaps I should have worded it differently, as follows:

The lateral distance between the gas pedal and the brake pedal on the manual transmission Crossfire is about 2+/- inches, which prohibits the "Heel - Toe" shifting method. Since the gas pedal lever has a sensor in it, how can you either alter the brake pedal DOWN to align with the gas pedal, OR modify the gas pedal upwards to match the lateral level of the brake pedal.

This being said, It would be preferable to extend the brake pedal further from the driver position since the driver is 6'+.

Now, don't tell me brake with your left foot or stand on your head and use your hands... Anyone who has a viable method please post.. The rest of the comments will get a response beginning with "HEY KNUCKLEHEAD"

 

HDDP,

Your question is a matter of personal preference, as you well know, with your driving experience that what works for me, may not work for you or, for Rick 333. I do not appreciate as you indicated above that I would fall into the "KNUCKLEHEAD" category?

You are asking the forum for an "absolute" answer, and I don't think that you will find it here, if moving the peddle works for you then there is your answer.

If you watch any racing on TV, or talk with race drivers, they do use their left foot to brake and also pump the peddle to ensure that they have brake pressure prior to getting to a location on the track were they may be doing 100+ and find that they have no brakes (Safety First!) also as I said prior, at times you just need to input a little brake at a given time to help the car point into a corner, with the Crossfire with the large rear tires, at time it does not want to turn as quick as you would like.

I see that you have about every up grade to a Crossfire that you could just about do, now it is time to work on yourself to turn even quicker laps.

I hope our paths cross someday, maybe at track!

 

OK buddy, thanks for your unput.

 

Keljen:

I've pretty much gotten the suspension tuned perfectly. If you are feeling as though your car "does not want to turn as quick", it's probably because the OEM suspension is tuned for a nice leisurely cruise down the highway, with a nice soft ride. It has a bit of oversteer and body roll with the soft suspension supplied by the MFG. Take a look at the in-car video I posted of me chasing SASKINS at Willow Springs. He had OEM suspension and I had my "race" suspension. the video is in my gallery.

I'm thankful the rears are 255/35-19 now that I have the suspension set-up the way I want. I have -1" camber on the rears and the suspension set-up delivers a bit of oversteer. This is perfect... IMO... I think I have the perfect balance now because of the light weight of the rear-end and the 255 rears.

The slip, or drift on the front tires almost matches the drift on the rears while taking the car through a turn at maximum (conditional) speed. This allows you to easily "throttle steer" through a corner in a very contolled "drift".

Seriously, take a look at the video of SASKINS and I... You'll see the OEM suspension and my suspension in a track environement... BIG DIFFERENCE !

 

i dunno for sure, but maybe somehow weld a metal plate on top of the gas pedal that would match it up. buy yeah, i agree, this forum is full of a bunch of jackasses.

 

Unfotunately, all the connection pieces and arms on the gas pedal are made of plastic... I'm looking more at adjusting the lateral placement of the brake pedal as it is not attached to any engine sensors and the entire component is made of steel. It might just be another "start-from-scratch" mod.

Thanks for the input..