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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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Do you thing a crossfire is faster than a 2007 golf gti ? Because my friend has one and I want beat him with my crossfire ?
 
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by hugoboss
Do you thing a crossfire is faster than a 2007 golf gti ? Because my friend has one and I want beat him with my crossfire ?
I don't know whare are the specs of a GTI '07? You might be able to take the older models, but have no idea about '07.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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If you shift fast enough you should be able to beat a '07 gti. Unless you friends gti is modded then you will lose. I beat a new gti on the highway from a roll so it is possible.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 11:49 PM
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Default Re: Do you think a crossfire is faster than a 2007 golf gti ?

here are the gti specs:

Price as tested: $29,290 (base price: $23,230)
Engine type: turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 16-valve inline-4, iron block and aluminum head, direct fuel injection
Displacement: 121 cu in, 1,984 cc
Power (SAE net): 200 bhp @ 5,100 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 207 lb-ft @ 1,800 rpm

Transmission: 6-speed manual
Wheelbase: 101.5 in
Length/width/height: 165.7/69.3/58.4 in
Curb weight: 3,255 lb

Zero to 60 mph: 6.4 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 16.6 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 43.4 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 7.2 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 15.0 sec @ 95 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 132 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 159 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.86 g
EPA fuel economy, city/highway: 23/32 mpg
C/D-observed fuel economy: 17 mpg


~ it will be down to the better driver imo... close numbers on paper.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 03:12 AM
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Default Re: Do you think a crossfire is faster than a 2007 golf gti ?

Based on the numbers it will definitely come down to the driver.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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Default Re: Do you think a crossfire is faster than a 2007 golf gti ?

umm...
"Zero to 60 mph: 6.4 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 7.2 sec"

How can the 5-60 rolling start be 0.8 slower than stopped 0-60???
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 09:48 AM
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Default Re: Do you think a crossfire is faster than a 2007 golf gti ?

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umm...
"Zero to 60 mph: 6.4 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 7.2 sec"

How can the 5-60 rolling start be 0.8 slower than stopped 0-60???
a wheel spin (launch) out of the hole... gets the car moving much quicker (esp w/ a turbocharger spool) than with a load at 5 mph.

... this is still the case with any car.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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Wow that's pretty good performance, but I'm willing to bet a bone stock GTI with automatic tranny would more than likely beat the crossfire by at least half a fender.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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You will take'em past 100 if it is stock because the Crossfire should be doing that speed in 16.0 seconds if my memory serves me correctly, and if you have stick.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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Default Re: Do you think a crossfire is faster than a 2007 golf gti ?

Think its under that, because some have gotten 1/4 at 93 mph in mid 14's i think, so the other 7 mph can't be too far away.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 11:26 PM
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Default Re: Do you think a crossfire is faster than a 2007 golf gti ?

Car and Driver ran 14.8 at 96 mph with a 6 spd Crossfire. As Golfdude pointed out, 100 mph came in 16.1 sec.
With the same driver driving both cars, I'd think the Crossfire would run the quicker times.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 11:56 PM
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Default Re: Do you think a crossfire is faster than a 2007 golf gti ?

there is only one way to find out!!!
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 12:22 AM
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Default Re: Do you think a crossfire is faster than a 2007 golf gti ?

Originally Posted by Maxwell
Wow that's pretty good performance, but I'm willing to bet a bone stock GTI with automatic tranny would more than likely beat the crossfire by at least half a fender.
what? an auto wouldn't stand a chance, but a manual would probably take you.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 12:24 AM
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Default Re: Do you think a crossfire is faster than a 2007 golf gti ?

Originally Posted by Romio
umm...
"Zero to 60 mph: 6.4 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 7.2 sec"

How can the 5-60 rolling start be 0.8 slower than stopped 0-60???
two words, turbo lag.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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Default Re: Do you think a crossfire is faster than a 2007 golf gti ?

Originally Posted by x'ed
two words, turbo lag.
maybe trying to spool a GT40 with a four cylinder ... not with what the factory has on there ...

hell you want lag ... five words ... crossfire's drive by wire system ... these is laggy for ya ... hehehe ...

i agree ... close race but if you bought a non srt crossfire for the speed, you should have shopped harder ... no ? i am sure you all agree ...
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 12:47 AM
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Default Re: Do you think a crossfire is faster than a 2007 golf gti ?

I don't want to beat anything but my own best time on a track... but that's me...
 
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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You may not beat him but you sure will look better doing it!
 
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Default Re: Do you think a crossfire is faster than a 2007 golf gti ?

This is true.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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Default Re: Do you think a crossfire is faster than a 2007 golf gti ?

Originally Posted by x'ed
what? an auto wouldn't stand a chance, but a manual would probably take you.
Sorry dude, maybe the context at which I spoke was wrong. If you took an automatic turbo GTI and ran it against a 6 spd GTI, both cars being stock and identical, my money is on the auto over the manual version. Only because the transmission is always shifting at the correct points in the power band and its a much smoother continuous and faster shift than the guy running the manual version. but it's just not that exciting with the auto. If I was gonna get a boosted car, it would have to be automatic, much more efficient IMO.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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^ if the driver sucked then yea the auto would win...

sorry to burst that idea but experience speaking ... automatics do not begin to make sense until you hit at least high 11s in the quarter ... before that the manual will always win cause automatics in general are built with too low a stall speed for streetability and smooth slow shifting due to low line pressures for comfort ...

we had very quick talon, fwd, 16g with a automatic ... and what you say is true, when we raced, the stick cars always fell back plenty when they shifted as we kept pulling on them ... but even at that 300 hp power level, given similar cars with a stick we would lose because the gearing was just not there ... given another 200 hp and a high performance high rpm stall speed torque converter and the proper valve body upgrades to increase shift speed, i am sure similarly powered cars with stick would be losing left and right...

automatics are for economy and comfort...
sticks are for performance and economy...
 
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