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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 06:40 PM
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Default Heel-toe-downshifting

For those who know how to heel-toe-downshift, do you think that the 6-speed on the Crossfire has pedals that are suitible to perform heel-toe-downshifting? I personally cannot do this, any tips? Also, does anyone have any suggestions about buying pedals that allow heel-toe-downshifting to be easier?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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You know, I've tried it several times on my car and compared to others I've driven, it's damn hard on the Crossfire.

I've seen pedals designed in such a way as to promote the heel-toe down shift, but I don't know that there's an application for the crossfire.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 11:55 PM
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the accelerator is too deep compared to the brake for good heal-toe shifting. it works better if the pedals are at a similar depth so your foot can cross without having to strain your foot to reach the gas.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 12:08 AM
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damn near impossible to heel toe this car, which is something i noticed when i bought it but with how great the breaks are you can just put it in gear then left foot break way late into a corner.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 01:32 AM
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you can but it's hard. This is how i got my shifts smoothed out...

bascially your heal floats back and forth an inch or so against the carpet while your toes are rolling the clutch (if you want the pedal to touch the floor). It is easier to roll out then in... I took a ton of practice but my shifts are smooth. I am just glad the clutch is not to tight, it would just make things worse.

oh yeah - when doing fast shifts i stomp on the clutch and the gas
 
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 02:12 AM
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are you saying you heal and toe the clutch and brake? never heard of that
 
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 11:25 AM
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No, I mean your right toe is on the BRAKE, and your right HEEL is on the gas (to match the revs), and your LEFT foot is on the clutch
 
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 03:55 PM
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golfdude, that comment i made was to drunkiq, not you.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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whoops to x'ed! So does anyone have any suggestions to make heel-toe-downshifting easier (change the pedals)?
 
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by x'ed
golfdude, that comment i made was to drunkiq, not you.
You lost me for a minute - growing up I leared that heal and tow was the rolling clutch technique.

What you are talking about is what I was told is called "rev matching". Apperantly the person that "learned me" was not brilliant about the correct terms...


Ok the problem with rev matching on this car is the gas pedal is so far down and the angle sucks on top of that. It would require a driving shoe with a heel. unfortunantly my foot (size 10-10.5) can just barley grab the top corner of the brake pedal when depressing on the gas with the heel on my shoe, maybe it will work for you. In the end my foot slides off the brake.

I guess another options would be to order another gas pedal from MB (Part No. A 170 300 00 04) and try to place and angle it on top of the current gas pedal for autocrossing and pull it off for around town...

Sorry for the confusion,

-marc
 
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 09:36 PM
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One thing I do miss from my old Eclipse is the dead pedal. It was a solidly mounted pedal to the left of the clutch whose only purpose was to rest your left foot on. It was the same height as the clutch pedal and was great for long distance driving and bracing yourself when cornering. If the seat belts locked you wouldn't need it but they are inertia reel type which let you slide around when driving hard.

To heel and toe the Crossfire you'ld need a downward extension on the gas pedal and that might foul on the floor mat.

My race cars (Jiben and Caldwell D-13 FVs) had dead pedals and even with the solid 6 point harness I learned to love the dead pedal.
 
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