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Old 08-01-2023, 01:14 PM
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Continued work on my '05 Xfire this morning. Problem has been battery going dead. Removed the siren, it never worked, and had the battery tested. O'Riley's tested the battery had a bad cell "again" so I bought a Wal-Mart battery this time. I'll install it later this afternoon. Cleaned all the leaves out under the cowl and made sure the drain was clear. Hope the siren was most of my problem. As a side note I discovered why the windshield washer didn't work. The washer fluid line was completely pinched closed in two places by some previous owner.


 

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Old 08-01-2023, 01:26 PM
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I noticed under the cowl parts my '06 doesn't have. In the pic you notice a little electrical board. It seems associated with my washer jets as there is a little opticle sensor there. Is it some kind of rain sensor?? Think I'll leave that disconnected as well.


 
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Old 08-01-2023, 01:32 PM
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See the service manual, wiring chapter - thats the board that has the thermostat that turns on the washer nozzle heaters.






............. and it did not drain your battery cause it can't drain your battery as the diagram shows.
 

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"WINDSHIELD WASHER JET HEATER!" What the heck will they think of next. That is something that every central Florida owner should have! LoL I guess in colder climates that would be a handy accessory. Thanks Pizzaguy!
 

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Let me be clear: I fully expect your new battery to be dead in a few days, unless you drive the car every day - and it's not the nozzle heaters.

ANd while we talk about "stuff the manual just does not tell you", your button that turns on the rear window heating element turns on two OTHER heating elements.
Note that fuse 4 protects ONLY the mirrors, so if the back window gets warm but mirrors don't, check that fuse.


 
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I did not expect the washer jet heater to cause the battery to go dead. I disconnected it cause there is no need for it in my climate and why chance fate! LoL By removing the siren is what I'm hopeing was my dead battery problem plus having a bad battery cell. Seems sirens have been the culprit in a lot of instances.

I cut out the badly damaged area of the washer hose and now my windshield washer now works.
 
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Well the battery is still up and strong but I'm sure a new battery would do the same. Just have to wait and see if removing the bad siren had anything to do with anything. Alternator is putting out 14.2 volts. Gonna have to see if my no start 3 times returns or not. That is covered in another posting as a continuing intermittant problem. When funds come available and the summer heat lets up the screem will be going to MSS.
 
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Well the battery is still up and strong but I'm sure a new battery would do the same. Just have to wait and see if removing the bad siren had anything to do with anything. Alternator is putting out 14.2 volts. Gonna have to see if my no start 3 times returns or not. That is covered in another posting as a continuing intermittant problem. When funds come available and the summer heat lets up the screem will be going to MSS.
Think I'll take the old siren apart and see what makes it tick.
 
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There are built in batteries that leak acid when they get old causing the internal electronics to short out causing battery drain.
 
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Thanks Pizzaguy! I printed it out the schematic for the mirror/defrost and put it into my 3-ring Xfire information binder.
 
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For those inquiring minds that want to know what the inside of a security siren! Used my lathe to cut it open and yes indeedy the two batteries did leak and destroyed the electronic board. Probably was/could be a battery drainage problem. Pictures keep it interesting.




 
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There have been some photos of damaged ones posted in the past but I don’t recall seeing any that bad.
 
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There have been some photos of damaged ones posted in the past but I don’t recall seeing any that bad.
Yea, that one is EPIC. The radio sets on the Titanic, at the bottom of the ocean for 100 years, look better than that thing.
 
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