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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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Ok, so I have a '05 Coupe and this is the third time I've had issues with starting the car. The last two times (during warranty) the dealership has stated it was the battery and they replaced the battery with a new one. But this time I have no warranty, and I'm faced with the same issue. I took the battery to Auto Zone and the battery is charged fined. But cannot start the car. The engine does not turn but everything else comes on in the car, and the raditor fan turns on extremly loud.

Does anyone have a clue what could be wrong? Or has faced this problem with their crossfire?

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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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I would check the wires that run to the starter it sounds like bad connection or the starter its self. It's just my guess but thats where I'd start if every thing else works.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by robby363
I would check the wires that run to the starter it sounds like bad connection or the starter its self. It's just my guess but thats where I'd start if every thing else works.
Is your car a standard or auto? If it's a standard it could be the clutch switch. Just another guess but might help.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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My car is an auto. I was reading through threads and it seems others are going through a problem with a relay switch. So I'm going to look into that. My car has been acting funny lately and hesitating as I'm driving.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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It could be a relay. The problem with cars today is you can spend all day trying to figure out whats wrong. I had a cougar before my XF it had every symptom of being a bad alternator but ended up being a relay.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cwcrossfire
Ok, so I have a '05 Coupe and this is the third time I've had issues with starting the car. The last two times (during warranty) the dealership has stated it was the battery and they replaced the battery with a new one. But this time I have no warranty, and I'm faced with the same issue. I took the battery to Auto Zone and the battery is charged fined. But cannot start the car. The engine does not turn but everything else comes on in the car, and the raditor fan turns on extremly loud.

Does anyone have a clue what could be wrong? Or has faced this problem with their crossfire?

Thanks.
You mention the cooling fan is extremly loud, there was a (E-19) cooling fan recall on late 2004 to early 2006 on some cars. Could possibly be draining the battery.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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What's really interesting about this is that I went to start my car today after many months in storage and the same thing happened. I've had a Battery Tender charger hooked up the the battery shows a full charge. All electrical systems work fine with the exception power to the starter. Turn the keyand nothing. Any ideas as to what relay it could be?
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 06:03 AM
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You mention the cooling fan is extremly loud, there was a (E-19) cooling fan recall on late 2004 to early 2006 on some cars. Could possibly be draining the battery.
Heres a link to check if the E-19 fan recall has been performed on your xfire http://www-5.chrysler.com/webselfser...m%28%27R%27%29
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 07:00 AM
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Possibly the crank position sensor? That might also account for the hesitation.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 06:44 AM
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Search these forums for "Mystery No Start" and you'll find the solution. From one of my posts:

"Well, I think that we've finally solved the no start issue with my XF (knock on wood). This problem had been occurring for a couple of months and a few weeks ago the car stalled at a light and wouldn't start. In the end, a local dealer (Koons in Tysons Corner, VA) replaced the Relay Control Module. This module actually contains 4 control modules (including the fuel pump module) but is a single unit. Evidently a very easy fix in the end. You open the rectangular box next to the battery and the module is the part with the 40 amp fuse, 5 or 6 other fuses, and 4 or more connectors. You pop out this entire unit, disconnect all the connectors, pop it back in and close the box. Since I got my XF back on Monday, it's started every time and, maybe it's my imagination, but seems to be running better than ever."

Lots more detailed information in the entire thread. Good luck!
 
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 06:27 AM
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Thanks! I'm going to attempt to purchase the relay control switch this afternoon at the local dealership. Just called and the part is $270, ouch!

Hopefully this will fix the problem, because yesterday my car shut off at a red light in Tampa, Fl during rush hour and in the left lane! Needless to say it was a f*ing nightmare!
 
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 06:32 AM
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The price sounds correct. I swear my XF ran better "all around" after putting in the new relay module. I hope this solves the problem but remember that advice found here on the forum is worth what you pay for it. In my case, the advice was "priceless" since the shop was having such a hard time finding the cause of the problem.
 

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