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Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
I have an 04 x-fire coupe, well maintained, have a left turn signal that is not working. Access to the problem area is under the hood, just under the frame bolster and above and between the two headlamps. The turn signal bulb and socket are interchangeable from left to right side. In this c ase, the left (drivers") side socket was removed by turning the butterfly handles leftward about a quarter of a turn and then pulling the bulb assembly out. The bulb is fine, the socket into which the bulb fits is intact but one of the contacts has melted through and so is not making solid contact with its pickup point within the headlamp assembly. The part number for this appears to be 5174703AA, and the mercedes part number cross reference is apparently A000 540 0966. MOPAR/Chrylser does not provide this part any longer, none are found at any dealer or in Detroit as being in stock. Mercedes does not have the corresponding cross reference part. WTF? !!!
I can send a picture of the part and the damage on the part, but other than going to a junk yard and finding a damaged crossfire and pullling the part, I dont know how else to find this part. The part has PR66-CF30 (the R may be an A, the C may be a G and the 30 may in fact be 3D, cannot distinguish because of the nature of the scripting on the cylinder of the part, but wait, it gets worse:), STOCKOVALEO (but cant really tell if the OCKO is CCKD or whether the VALEO is really VRLED); internet search finds STOCKO VALEO as a parts supplier principally in europe. The base of the part near the butterfly handles says clearly STOCKO-VALEO and before that has the inscription PY 21 W I knew I was buying a rare care years ago when I picked this up, but I did not know that no parts would be available for this vehicle in less than 20 years. pics may be seen at https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...34-albums.html Any guidance from anyone would be helpful. If I can figure out how to post a couple of pics of this part, i'll put em up |
Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Originally Posted by drdr99
(Post 783526)
I have an 04 x-fire coupe, well maintained, have a left turn signal that is not working. Access to the problem area is under the hood, just under the frame bolster and above and between the two headlamps. The turn signal bulb and socket are interchangeable from left to right side. In this c ase, the left (drivers") side socket was removed by turning the butterfly handles leftward about a quarter of a turn and then pulling the bulb assembly out. The bulb is fine, the socket into which the bulb fits is intact but one of the contacts has melted through and so is not making solid contact with its pickup point within the headlamp assembly. The part number for this appears to be 5174703AA, and the mercedes part number cross reference is apparently A000 540 0966. MOPAR/Chrylser does not provide this part any longer, none are found at any dealer or in Detroit as being in stock. Mercedes does not have the corresponding cross reference part. WTF? !!!
I can send a picture of the part and the damage on the part, but other than going to a junk yard and finding a damaged crossfire and pullling the part, I dont know how else to find this part. The part has PR66-CF30 (the R may be an A, the C may be a G and the 30 may in fact be 3D, cannot distinguish because of the nature of the scripting on the cylinder of the part, but wait, it gets worse:), STOCKOVALEO (but cant really tell if the OCKO is CCKD or whether the VALEO is really VRLED); internet search finds STOCKO VALEO as a parts supplier principally in europe. The base of the part near the butterfly handles says clearly STOCKO-VALEO and before that has the inscription PY 21 W I knew I was buying a rare care years ago when I picked this up, but I did not know that no parts would be available for this vehicle in less than 20 years. pics may be seen at CrossfireForum.org - drdr99's Albums Any guidance from anyone would be helpful. If I can figure out how to post a couple of pics of this part, i'll put em up This part PY 21 W is a bulb and it fits a socket BAU15S. We now need to find the holder with the butterfly grips with that socket in it. |
Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
I sent him a PM asking for his address 180, I have a spare I'll send him free.
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Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Originally Posted by ala_xfire
(Post 783534)
I sent him a PM asking for his address 180, I have a spare I'll send him free.
What is the number on it? |
Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
What is the number on it? Inside it has PR66-GF30 |
Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
G., you are one great guy! Remember fixing that one?
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Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Obsolete .............
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Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
to OneHundred80,
wow, dont know how you did it, but those links look to be spot on bro!! I have inquired with first link at partsworld-uk dot com, about whether the Chrysler part No. Part No. 5174703AA is a match to the Fiat/Citroen/Peugeot part; my photos of my spent part are very close match, there are some diffs, so before pulling trigger, I'll wait for some confirmation. Too bad Chrysler has totally abandoned support of the Crossfire. Bet I could get the part if I gave Chrysler about $450 and purchased a new headlamp/turnsignal/parking lamp system, the part is probably embedded with the larger configuration of lamps and lamp body. Thanks so much for your kind assistance. |
Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Did the one I sent you not work ?
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Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
ala_xfire, correct, the socket received just fell apart in a way....the contact point on one side fell away from its mooring as I gently wiped the contacts with a tissue to insure it was clean before preparing to set the bulb and part into the female receiver.
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Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
so sorry, that came from a junk headlight I had, never tested it.
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Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Originally Posted by drdr99
(Post 786345)
ala_xfire, correct, the socket received just fell apart in a way....the contact point on one side fell away from its mooring as I gently wiped the contacts with a tissue to insure it was clean before preparing to set the bulb and part into the female receiver.
We may not bother to answer you next time if we get no feedback.;) |
Originally Posted by onehundred80
(Post 789626)
OK, was the problem solved? We like to know the results of our time we spent looking for an answer for you.
We may not bother to answer you next time if we get no feedback.;) Did we ever find out if this worked |
Originally Posted by onehundred80
(Post 783556)
The Valeo part number is PR66-GF30
The Fiat part number for this is 9406215468. Google this number and you find it is used on a lot of European cars. It can be found here (CLICK) or here (CLICK) in the UK, there must be other cars that use them. This part accepts a PY 21 W bulb (amber) and the socket size is BAU15S This looks like the Butterfly socket we have. Valeo makes parts for lots of car not just MB. https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...1&d=1393044495 List of bulb types. |
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I ordered the VALEO pa66-gf30 part through partsworld-uk via ebay. The part number is the same as my original part and it "appears" to be a very similar in the photo. I am unable to get it to fit. Some of the tabs are in the right place , but the plastic around one of the contact points is wider, additionally it appears that some of the cams that will allow it to lock into place are in the wrong location.
This was quite a disappointment. It is unbelievable to me that VALEO would have two different parts with the same part number. I plan on contacting VALEO to see how I would go about finding the original part for the Crossfire. Currently my solution has been two strips of copper tape over the bad contact taped into place. It is holding for now, but I would prefer another solution. |
Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Originally Posted by cwwilsonpa
(Post 791582)
I ordered the VALEO pa66-gf30 part through partsworld-uk via ebay. The part number is the same as my original part and it "appears" to be a very similar in the photo. I am unable to get it to fit. Some of the tabs are in the right place , but the plastic around one of the contact points is wider, additionally it appears that some of the cams that will allow it to lock into place are in the wrong location.
This was quite a disappointment. It is unbelievable to me that VALEO would have two different parts with the same part number. I plan on contacting VALEO to see how I would go about finding the original part for the Crossfire. Currently my solution has been two strips of copper tape over the bad contact taped into place. It is holding for now, but I would prefer another solution. |
Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
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Attachment 32312I have had a problem with mine on the drivers side, one of the contacts got weak and would not hold the connection. It finally broke all the way off and like everyone a replacement is not easy. I will see how long my fix holds. I found a pen with a metal pocket clip that fit in the channel and cut a piece longer than the gap, once I verified the connection with my multimeter and soldered it in place. I built up the bridge with more solder so it made a solid connection in the housing.
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Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Originally Posted by EpicDesyre
(Post 803525)
Attachment 32312I have had a problem with mine on the drivers side, one of the contacts got weak and would not hold the connection. It finally broke all the way off and like everyone a replacement is not easy. I will see how long my fix holds. I found a pen with a metal pocket clip that fit in the channel and cut a piece longer than the gap, once I verified the connection with my multimeter and soldered it in place. I built up the bridge with more solder so it made a solid connection in the housing.
Fixing what you have is cheaper than chasing all over for something that may not exist anymore. |
Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
I had the same problem with my 2005 coupe.After a month of searching for a part in the US, I started searching in Europe. After talking to Valeo I ordered Peugeot Part # 6215465 from ebay.co.uk. It was an exact fit. I hope this helps.
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Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Obsolete ...........
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Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
The Fiat part number for this is 9406215468. Google this number and you find it is used on a lot of European cars. It can be found here (CLICK- Lithuania) or (CLICK) or (CLICK) eBay UK, there must be other cars that use them. This part accepts a PY 21 W bulb (amber) and the socket size is BAU15S This looks like the Butterfly socket we have. Valeo makes parts for lots of car not just MB. https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...1&d=1393044495 List of bulb types. The links I provide are for the correct part and mention Fiat, Citroen and Peugeot. [/QUOTE] I have received these parts, put in a bulb and tested them, they work and fit 100%. I got mine from Lithuania which was the cheapest price of them all, not China which is amazing. The parts were made in France. They cost £5 (US$8) each and were delivered in under 10 days. |
Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Originally Posted by onehundred80
(Post 844825)
I have received these parts, put in a bulb and tested them, they work and fit 100%.
I got mine from Lithuania which was the cheapest price of them all, not China which is amazing. The parts were made in France. They cost £5 (US$8) each and were delivered in under 10 days. |
Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Originally Posted by onehundred80
(Post 844825)
I have received these parts, put in a bulb and tested them, they work and fit 100%.
I got mine from Lithuania which was the cheapest price of them all, not China which is amazing. The parts were made in France. They cost £5 (US$8) each and were delivered in under 10 days. |
Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Good catch. |
Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Originally Posted by onehundred80
(Post 854324)
I'll scratch number that from the post.
Good catch. |
Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Originally Posted by maxcichon
(Post 854356)
Kinda' weird, 'eh?:confused:
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Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Originally Posted by onehundred80
(Post 854365)
What have I missed here?
Don't you? |
Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Originally Posted by maxcichon
(Post 854367)
That Valeo would put the plastic contents on the piece, sir. I find that...weird.
Don't you? Our recycling attempts are far behind theirs, we do have PP, PE etc. on our containers and so on. I would imagine that as it has glass fiber in that plug resin it is not wanted in the recycled polyamide bin. I think probably most if not all parts on the car give the content. |
Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Hey I just ordered one from Ebay UK. They are shipping it from Lithuania too.
Thanks for the links, it's a great resource. |
Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Originally Posted by am919
(Post 843532)
I had the same problem with my 2005 coupe.After a month of searching for a part in the US, I started searching in Europe. After talking to Valeo I ordered Peugeot Part # 6215465 from ebay.co.uk. It was an exact fit. I hope this helps.
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Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Originally Posted by maxcichon
(Post 783549)
G., you are one great guy! Remember fixing that one?
Thanks |
Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Originally Posted by Bjm65
(Post 891740)
Can you tell me Valeo phone number? That's exactly what I need.
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Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
[QUOTE=onehundred80;891744]I think you have missed something here, you do not phone Valeo you order it from eBay UK CLICK.[/QUOTE
With the Peugeot part number? Or the one on the socket and God Bless for responding. |
Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
[QUOTE=Bjm65;891745]
Originally Posted by onehundred80
(Post 891744)
I think you have missed something here, you do not phone Valeo you order it from eBay UK CLICK.[/QUOTE
With the Peugeot part number? Or the one on the socket and God Bless for responding. |
Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
I just ordered my second socket from ebay.co.uk
Indicator Bulb Holder For Peugeot 207 307 607 807 621546 https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cro...5ad82811bd.jpg https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Indicator....c100039.m2059 First one worked out fine... I should have ordered two to begin with. From ebay.co.uk |
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Do you know what model Peugeot this was for?
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Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Originally Posted by mariontr
(Post 898984)
Do you know what model Peugeot this was for?
Big shout out and thank you to onehundred80! I don't know what model of other cars the sockets fit, maybe Google can help. |
Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Thanks for the response and after the reply saw that SpalooBruce had posted the link on ebay. I ordered 4, don't know why but expectation that it may break like the original unless they are better quality.
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Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Well got the parts this past weekend and installed yesterday and worked like a charm. So I have 3 left in case something goes wrong with the passenger side with two in reserve. Got mine also from Lithuania, took about 2 weeks to get with the holidays.Now for the rubber piece under the passenger mirror that looks like spider webs now.;)
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Re: Front Turn Signal Light Bulb Socket
Originally Posted by EpicDesyre
(Post 803525)
Attachment 32312I have had a problem with mine on the drivers side, one of the contacts got weak and would not hold the connection. It finally broke all the way off and like everyone a replacement is not easy. I will see how long my fix holds. I found a pen with a metal pocket clip that fit in the channel and cut a piece longer than the gap, once I verified the connection with my multimeter and soldered it in place. I built up the bridge with more solder so it made a solid connection in the housing.
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