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Old May 9, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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i've narrowed my search down but one thing will help me choose.

one tire, the better of the two, i can only find online. so there goes local support and warrenty.

the other, although recieves great reviews just isn't in the same catagory. it on the other hand is popular and availible locally.

both will cost about the same price after shipping, tax, mounting, ect.

whats your opinion on this?
 
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Old May 9, 2008 | 08:28 AM
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I don't know what brands your comparing but you should get the local ones for replacements. If your going with 20" in the rear ! Your emblems are sent also.
 
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Old May 9, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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i'm really thinking the same thing. this is my daily driver, and i don't think i can afford to wait for a replacement to be shipped. i was compairing the vredestein tires (internet), and yokohama s-drives.

thank you for the shipment!! i can't wait.
 
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Old May 9, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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What do you guys think of Kumho tires? I found these thru the military AAFES.

The link didn't work but, the website is ordertire.com

What does UTQG means? I need new tires too. I just want a good tire for a good price.
 
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Old May 9, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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Scratch my last post. If you don't have access to AAFES.com you can't see the website.
 
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Old May 9, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BORICAN
What do you guys think of Kumho tires? I found these thru the military AAFES.

The link didn't work but, the website is ordertire.com

What does UTQG means? I need new tires too. I just want a good tire for a good price.
Uniform Tire Quality Grading. Here's a better eplanation for it. Uniform Tire Quality Grading (UTQG)
The Uniform Tire Quality Grading is a labeling system required by the federal government. All tires sold in the United States must be graded and labeled with information on treadwear, temperature (resistance to heat buildup) and traction. These ratings are intended to help consumers more easily compare tires. Tires sold in the United States must be examined through a series of tests defined by the government and conducted by the manufacturer. Manufacturers are then responsible for assigning ratings to their products.
 

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Old May 9, 2008 | 04:01 PM
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Uniform Tire Quality Grading. Here's a better eplanation for it. Uniform Tire Quality Grading (UTQG)
So the higher the number and letter the better?

ex. 320 AA A compared to 420 AA A

Is this much different than the Z or ZR rating?

Don't want to sound dumb asking these questions but, most tire shops have no idea either.
 
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Old May 9, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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The "R" means it's a Radial tire.
 
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Old May 9, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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Those numbers for UTQG are compared to a generic tire having a value of 100. So a tire with a treadwear rating of 420 will last 4.2 times that of a generic or the 3500 treadwear rating would be 3.5 times that of a generic tire.

The lettering refers to safe operating speed. ZR rated tires can go as high as "149mph+"
 
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Old May 9, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Thanks Fellas. LOL. I don't think I will do over 140 MPH though, I've lost enough teeth.

I guess I just get the 320 AA A Z's. They are a little less. Everthing else was the same.

I'm a lil more learnt now. New Orleans Parish Schools System slacked on me. LOL!
 
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Old May 9, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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something else to consider, at least the way i'm looking at it.

fact, the harder the rubber the longer it would last in use(tire). i know this isn't directly related or a rule, just a guide i'm using. the higher the number the harder the rubber. with this thinking, if looking at a 380 tire and a 180 tire, or quality brands! , the 180 will be of softer compound and should have better traction. this isn't going into looking at tread design and wet handleing, but its just how im looking at thing while choosing.

with that said, for my daily driver, i'm searching for tires with a rating of 280-350 or so. i need something that'll last all my miles i put on the car daily, but i also am a spirited driver, so i don't want something like my cousins T/A is using that spin and slid all over the place with a rating of 420.

somebody will chime in if i'm wrong, and i'll learn. but this is my uneducated way to semi judge what i'm looking at.
 
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Old May 15, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BORICAN
Thanks Fellas. LOL. I don't think I will do over 140 MPH though, I've lost enough teeth.

I guess I just get the 320 AA A Z's. They are a little less. Everthing else was the same.

I'm a lil more learnt now. New Orleans Parish Schools System slacked on me. LOL!
Seeing you're in Texas, check the DiscountTire web site for their virtual wheel and auto matching as well as tires and prices. I just had my Mandrus Millenium wheels mounted and saddled with GENERAL EXCLAIM UHPs. 225/40R-18 front and 265/30R-19 in rear. Wheels are 18X8.5 front and 19X9.5 rear. Makes speedo read a tad high but ok with me. Tires quiet but have had little chance to run them out. Rated 380 AA A, and were #1 rated tire at TireRack for several years out of 44 comparable tires. If you buy from AAFES, you save $$ but just make sure they know how to mount your TPMS.

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Old May 15, 2008 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by FTroopChief
Seeing you're in Texas, check the DiscountTire web site for their virtual wheel and auto matching as well as tires and prices. I just had my Mandrus Millenium wheels mounted and saddled with GENERAL EXCLAIM UHPs. 225/40R-18 front and 265/30R-19 in rear. Wheels are 18X8.5 front and 19X9.5 rear. Makes speedo read a tad high but ok with me. Tires quiet but have had little chance to run them out. Rated 380 AA A, and were #1 rated tire at TireRack for several years out of 44 comparable tires. If you buy from AAFES, you save $$ but just make sure they know how to mount your TPMS.
I was going to buy the tires and have them mounted by Discount. i live up the street from them. I don't trust the AAFES people on much(No Offense to anyone, just from experience). Thanks though.
 
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Old May 15, 2008 | 11:04 PM
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Whenever I find a good deal online, I bring a printed copy to my local Discount Tires and they usually match the price. They've been pretty good to me, what can I say.
 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeep2Xfire
Those numbers for UTQG are compared to a generic tire having a value of 100. So a tire with a treadwear rating of 420 will last 4.2 times that of a generic or the 3500 treadwear rating would be 3.5 times that of a generic tire.
The problem with the UTQG is that every manufacturer choses independently where that 100 baseline falls. So 350 at one manufacturer may not be equal to 350 from another.
 
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