Has anybody ever spun out?
The crossfire is understeer prone.... Most people when hitting the limit of the crossfire will experience push, not oversteer or "spinning out". But to answer your question, yes 3x for me.
1. Around a right hand 90deg turn that I was trying to hang it out on a little, the ASC kicked in, it tried to straighten me out, but I was doing the same thing (straightening myself out) so between the car and me we overcorrected. Spun about 270deg (not a full spin).
2. In Minneapolis about 1y ago in the snow, just 1 nice slow 360 while driving down the interstate. Spun completely around while I was going in a straight line and just kept on going like I meant to.
3. 5mo ago in Ft. Worth I hit a patch of standing water while going straight on a 5 lane interstate (clear skys, no rain, just hit a patch of water). ASC freaked out due to the loss of traction, it initiated braking on the right front wheel, so when I came out of the water I imediately started spinning. Went across all 5 lanes, hit a Ford Explorer and ended up in the ditch.
Needless to say I have absolutely no confidence in our stability control seeing that it has caused me to spin twice that I know of, and I am pretty sure it had something to do with the spin in the snow as well.
1. Around a right hand 90deg turn that I was trying to hang it out on a little, the ASC kicked in, it tried to straighten me out, but I was doing the same thing (straightening myself out) so between the car and me we overcorrected. Spun about 270deg (not a full spin).
2. In Minneapolis about 1y ago in the snow, just 1 nice slow 360 while driving down the interstate. Spun completely around while I was going in a straight line and just kept on going like I meant to.
3. 5mo ago in Ft. Worth I hit a patch of standing water while going straight on a 5 lane interstate (clear skys, no rain, just hit a patch of water). ASC freaked out due to the loss of traction, it initiated braking on the right front wheel, so when I came out of the water I imediately started spinning. Went across all 5 lanes, hit a Ford Explorer and ended up in the ditch.
Needless to say I have absolutely no confidence in our stability control seeing that it has caused me to spin twice that I know of, and I am pretty sure it had something to do with the spin in the snow as well.
Well I havent had a chance to push the car to the limits due to winter but i like playing around on slippery roads (when others arent around). Once i actually had the car 90 degrees sideways, straighten it and then went for another 90 degrees. I used to drift cars so i have no problem controlling a car going sideways in most cases but this was scary because the car was very close to the curb and i was like oh shoot, i am gonna bend my wheel.
Just a quick advice to those who aren't experienced on controlling an out of control car, especially on a slippery road. Let's say if you made a left or right turn and due to ice/snow/rain, you car under steers and heading towards the curb, don't hit the brakes because it wont do anything, you will still slide until you hit the curb or something else. Simply, give some nice gas, this will slide the rear end and your car will now be facing away from the curb or whatever is in front of you and you wanted to avoid it. a few years ago, i hit a curb and slightly messed my wheel up because of under steer in snow. But then i learned that effects of under steer can be avoided if you give some gas the get the rear end lose.
Just a quick advice to those who aren't experienced on controlling an out of control car, especially on a slippery road. Let's say if you made a left or right turn and due to ice/snow/rain, you car under steers and heading towards the curb, don't hit the brakes because it wont do anything, you will still slide until you hit the curb or something else. Simply, give some nice gas, this will slide the rear end and your car will now be facing away from the curb or whatever is in front of you and you wanted to avoid it. a few years ago, i hit a curb and slightly messed my wheel up because of under steer in snow. But then i learned that effects of under steer can be avoided if you give some gas the get the rear end lose.
Originally Posted by Infinite
Not in the dry, but i did have my car step out in the rain on 400 and do two 360's across 5 lanes in rush hour traffic
not sure if this is what your looking for but with my traction control off i can do 360's at will in a controled enviorment. ie: empty parking lot with lots of room
did hit some standing water on the interstate and the rear definatly wanted to pass the front. got very loose very fast on me
did hit some standing water on the interstate and the rear definatly wanted to pass the front. got very loose very fast on me
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I win.
If your driving really sporty turn TC off. Details can't be explained. but hit some loose gravel on a turn car oversteered i attepted to compensate by kicking the back a little and TC was engaged my counter steers were pointless. Since this accident i removed all the nannies save ABS and have had no issues.
Last edited by ProjectMayhem; Feb 19, 2010 at 12:52 AM.
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