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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 12:33 AM
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Question Which brake is better?

I've got a 2004 Crossfire that needs new brakes. The wear sensor has been coming on more and more over the last month, so I figured I'd go ahead and get them. I'll be attempting to do the change myself (that's for a different thread) but I was wondering which of these two options would be better if anyone has experience with either.

Just some background, I'm a college student, that drives about 3 miles back and forth to school/work and I've put about 6k miles on the car this year. It currently only has around 28k. I don't do any kind of racing/track stuff, so performance isn't really a concern. I live in the central valley of California, so I don't get hardly any rain, just 100+ heat in the summer. I'm just looking to get some cheap ceramics(I hate the dust off the originals) to replace and that will last me a good while.

These are the two that I've found that look like decent deals.
This.
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This.

If you have a different suggestion, maybe a seller on amazon/ebay that you'd be able to recommend, I'm open to options. I would just like to keep the cost at under $80 or so.

The other thing that I wonder about, is should I go ahead and replace the rears as well? I haven't taken the tires off, but just looking at the pads through the spokes, the rears look like they have about double what the fronts have left on them.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 07:05 AM
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Default Re: Which brake is better?

I put a complete set of these Red Stuff pads on 2 years ago - been very satisfied, really low dust.
2009-2013 BMW Z4 Brake Pads - EBC DP32046C - EBC Red Stuff Brake Pads
 
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 07:39 PM
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Default Re: Which brake is better?

Those exact pads will fit the car? Which BMW car did you pick from the dropdown?
 

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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 07:56 PM
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Default Re: Which brake is better?

Here is the correct link : EBC Red Stuff Brake Pads, No Dust Brake Pads
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 10:43 PM
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Default Which brake is better?

Hmmm, I plugged in the correct info for a XF on AutoAnything and it said that the Red ceramic pads won't fit a XF, however, the EDC Green Stuff pads will fit.

When they say that the pads will fit Any XF, it is my understanding that the SRT6 calipers are larger.

I'm wondering if the reds Only fit the SRT6.

Also, there are no comments as to how harsh the ceramic pads are to the rotors.

I'm not trying to confuse the situation, but just pointing out that it would be best to make sure they'll fit your XF and won't ruin your rotors.

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Old Jan 15, 2014 | 06:33 AM
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Default Re: Which brake is better?

Originally Posted by BibaResto
Hmmm, I plugged in the correct info for a XF on AutoAnything and it said that the Red ceramic pads won't fit a XF, however, the EDC Green Stuff pads will fit.

When they say that the pads will fit Any XF, it is my understanding that the SRT6 calipers are larger.

I'm wondering if the reds Only fit the SRT6.

Also, there are no comments as to how harsh the ceramic pads are to the rotors.

I'm not trying to confuse the situation, but just pointing out that it would be best to make sure they'll fit your XF and won't ruin your rotors.

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The link above covers Base, Limited and SRT6. I have a full set of REDS on my Limited. Rotor wear has not been an issue, I've been running them for 3 years. Yes, there are plenty of cheaper pads out there, these ain't cheap.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2014 | 05:09 PM
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Default Re: Which brake is better?

Thanks for the correct link. So those are 86ish. I'd prefer something a bit less expensive. Anyone else have any experience with the two that I linked, or other pads around 50-60$?
 
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Old Jan 15, 2014 | 08:45 PM
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Try this.......RockAuto Parts Catalog
 
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Old Jan 15, 2014 | 09:20 PM
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Default Re: Which brake is better?

I personally used a new set of PosiQuiets for my rear when I changed them last summer. So far the wear is even from what I can tell, and the stopping power is great too.
They get very good reviews from everyone that's used them so far, so I don't see why you shouldn't go with these too.

Posi Quiet Brake Pads, Posi Quiet Ceramic Pads, Posi Quiet Brakes - Videos, Installations & Reviews enjoy
 
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Old Jan 15, 2014 | 09:34 PM
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Default Re: Which brake is better?

I have had ceramics for 3 years. Our rotors are NASCAR grade. You won't hurt them.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 09:52 AM
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The posi quiets are going to be your best bang for the buck.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 04:37 PM
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Default Re: Which brake is better?

I went ahead and purchased the PosiQuiets. They came out to $56.14 or so. Once I get them, I may be back when I need some help putting them on. Thanks everyone!
 
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KrisFire
I went ahead and purchased the PosiQuiets. They came out to $56.14 or so. Once I get them, I may be back when I need some help putting them on. Thanks everyone!
When you get 'em, reference this thread :
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum/470528-post17.html
 
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 07:36 PM
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The edited part says that the caliper removal bolts are T40 torx. Since I have a non-SRT, that wouldn't be needed right? Just the 7mm allen? And do I need to have a torque wrench? Which parts need to be torqued back to a certain point, and what lbs do they need to be?
 

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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 10:24 PM
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Default Which brake is better?

Can I assume that you're all talking about the PosiQuiets ceramic? Not the semi-metalic?

Also...do these pads require warming up before they bite or are they good from cold? Living in SoCal, (really) cold is 50 degrees.

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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 09:49 AM
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Ya the Centric Posi-Quiets are mine and they work GREAT. Almost no dust at all even over many hundred miles. So, you'll like the Posi-Quiets!
 
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 01:13 PM
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Default Which brake is better?

Not my thread and don't mean to be pushy, but... Centric Posi-Quiets - ceramic?

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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 03:53 PM
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Default Re: Which brake is better?

Originally Posted by BibaResto
Not my thread and don't mean to be pushy, but... Centric Posi-Quiets - ceramic?

Biba
The ones from this link here are ceramics. It's what I ordered.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BibaResto
Not my thread and don't mean to be pushy, but... Centric Posi-Quiets - ceramic?

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Yeah, ceramic, one of the good mods I did to my 2008!
 
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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 04:02 PM
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I installed the Posi Quiets 2 days ago. Went off of the post linked in this thread, as well as the Front Brake Replacement Link in that post.

Install took about probably a little over an hour to do the two fronts. I did it in the dark, it was my first time doing a brake job, and I was checking everything out as I went, so it can be done much quicker. After I installed them, I went out and did the bedding process from that thread linked above. 8 or so stops from 60-10 in a row, followed by driving around for a few mins.

Overall, they seem to work well. They definitely feel different, and I think that they may need to be just used more, as they seem to have alot of pedal travel. Hopefully they will start to grab better as they get more and more used.

One of the things that I didn't see mentioned was bleeding the brake lines as you push the cylinder back in. My dad, who was helping me, was adament about me doing it, but I didn't as it wasn't in the instructions. He said that it can damage the ABS system to push the fluid all the way back into the reservoir. He is a mechanic that has mainly worked on older cars, and diesel trucks. Is that something that I should be concerned about in the newer cars?
 
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