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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 12:20 PM
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Hello everyone,

I apoligized if this topic has been discussed before, but I've done several searches and couldn't find any similar threads.

Anyway- I'm a former owner and the bug has bitten me again to buy a Crossfire. I owned a red Limited coupe from 2006-2008 (the car met it's demise in Tropical Storm Hermine), and my Dad loved my Crossfire so much he bought a black SRT-6 coupe. After recently moving to a new place, I've noticed a couple of my neighbors have Crossfires. Seeing them every day has me really missing these cars. I remember when the concept car debuted, and sat in an early production car at an auto show, too. I just think they're such neat little cars.

Recently I've started looking around at Crossfires online again. Something I noticed in my searches is that the glovebox design changed- it appears for the 2007 model year? Instead of the whole compartment opening downward, a smaller door opens outward for the new design. Were there any other production changes/updates I'm not aware of? Obviously 2005 ushered in the Roadster & SRT-6 varients, Aero Blue paint, and Cream interior options... but I'm talking more along the lines of stuff like the updated glovebox design. After owning 2 DeLoreans, minor production changes like these fascinate me for whatever reason. Plus, at 6'3", that updated glove box design is most welcome. With my long legs, I couldn't open my glovebox if I was in the passenger seat of my Crossfire. Another small change I remember was the LCD screen on the radios got bigger, I believe for the 2005 model year. Are there any other production changes I'm not aware of?
 
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 02:36 PM
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I own a couple 2005s but my son has a 2007 coupe. Yes, the glove door and the knee bolsters around the steering column are a little different. The only other thing that stood out is that his car came with a dead pedal and mine did not. Not sure about the radio - I believe the Infinities are all the same unless you have navigation. Also, there were some additional colors available from 2006 on like silver and the machine gray of my son's car (more of a blue with gray speckles). Other than that, nothing notable. Good luck with your search.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Goldwing
I own a couple 2005s but my son has a 2007 coupe. Yes, the glove door and the knee bolsters around the steering column are a little different. The only other thing that stood out is that his car came with a dead pedal and mine did not. Not sure about the radio - I believe the Infinities are all the same unless you have navigation. Also, there were some additional colors available from 2006 on like silver and the machine gray of my son's car (more of a blue with gray speckles). Other than that, nothing notable. Good luck with your search.
Interesting... I didn't notice the knee bolsters on the driver's side changed along with the glove box door. It appears both were changed to accomodate more leg room. I didn't know about the dead pedal, either.

I noticed under a paint code thread that the red went from Blaze Red to Inferno Red in 2005. Graphite Grey became Machine Grey in 2006. It appears Classic Yellow was only available for 2005 roadsters. And Oyster Gold was added for 2006-2008. Alabaster White was only made 2004-2006; Aero Blue 2005-2008. Looks like Sapphire Silver & Black were the only colors available for all years. I didn't know that 2007 & 2008 Crossfires had Bright Silver as an option in addition to Sapphire Silver, either. I'm guessing Sapphire Silver has some blue flakes in it, and Bright Silver doesn't?

The silvers, reds, and greys are so similar, I never noticed they changed from year to year. I feel like I'm getting a crash course in Crossfire options.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 05:32 PM
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The early 2004 head units had a display that was almost totally unreadable in sunlight.
This was changed with a TSB and I think later 2004's came with the updated display.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ala_xfire
The early 2004 head units had a display that was almost totally unreadable in sunlight.
This was changed with a TSB and I think later 2004's came with the updated display.
The interior silver colored trim was finished in a clear gloss finish, later cars came with a flatter finish to the silver trim.

Auto night/day rear view mirror in 2004 models only.


2004 models all came with standard features that later Base models lacked.

2004 models were were pre-wired for the navigation radio.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 09:08 PM
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It appears Classic Yellow was only available for 2005 roadsters.
I don't know about 06 or 08 model years, but Classic Yellow is on 07's as well. I've got one. Also, I believe that the ignition was modified to eliminate the sticky key problem.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 10:25 PM
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There's something different about the clutch/flywheel in later manual transmission cars (I think starting in '07 but I might be wrong).
 
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 10:48 PM
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'07 Knee Bolster change was for new knee air bags.
Is this what you mean by a "dead pedal" ?
Glove box just has single door that opens down.


Is a fairly early 07 - 13 September '06.



 
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 06:52 AM
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I think it was '07 when the alarm/siren module incorporated the lock/unlock chirp ....
 
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 10:24 AM
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I think it was '07 when the alarm/siren module incorporated the lock/unlock chirp ....
Not on mine - maybe late in the production?
 
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by bri3d
There's something different about the clutch/flywheel in later manual transmission cars (I think starting in '07 but I might be wrong).
The clutch remained the same, but somewhere they started putting in the tranny from the SLK350. A few of us are trying to figure out when.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 11:07 AM
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The dead pedal is a small block to the left of the clutch pedal that allows you to comfortably rest your foot - it was about 1.5" tall and bolted to the floor. The "silver blue" is actually Silver Sapphire Blue (SSB). There was also a Silver that almost exactly matched the windshield surround. Not sure if it was called Bright Silver or not, but very few were made.


I remember that almost every dealer in SW MI seemed to have yellow 05s on the lot when I was looking for my roadster. My next door neighbor has an oyster gold roadster. The Machine Gray is a very nice color and not too many were made. I found a 2007 roadster about four years ago and tried to talk my son into buying it so he had a set, but he was not interested. I should have bought it myself. It was a stick.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ala_xfire
I think it was '07 when the alarm/siren module incorporated the lock/unlock chirp ....
I do not think they came OEM with chirps. The later replacement parts had chirps.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 11:35 AM
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The "Dead Pedal" in mine is a plastic piece about 2.5" high. By removing it I can now stretch my left leg out straight.


How may I tell which trans I have ?


 
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Padgett
The "Dead Pedal" in mine is a plastic piece about 2.5" high. By removing it I can now stretch my left leg out straight.


How may I tell which trans I have ?


As of now it's a 50/50 guess
 
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Indelibility
The clutch remained the same, but somewhere they started putting in the tranny from the SLK350. A few of us are trying to figure out when.

They didn't put the trans, they just changed the Crankshaft's bolt pattern for the flywheel. The clutch remained the same compatability wise.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sk8erjosh09
They didn't put the trans, they just changed the Crankshaft's bolt pattern for the flywheel. The clutch remained the same compatability wise.
Now that makes zero sense on their part. Keep the same tranny but randomly decide to change to a different bolt pattern?

They must love making things "easy" for us...
 
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Indelibility
Now that makes zero sense on their part. Keep the same tranny but randomly decide to change to a different bolt pattern?

They must love making things "easy" for us...
It didn't make sense for any of the models lol. 03-06 (02-07) R230 SL500's, but they changed the bolt pattern for the mid 05's lol.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 03:28 PM
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Pfft, German ingenuity at its finest lol
 
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Indelibility
Pfft, German ingenuity at its finest lol
I rather doubt that it was done for no reason. For instance it is possible that a new crankshaft was needed which was to use the same clutch as the 320. So a new flywheel was required as well as a new C/Shaft.
Or the elimination of some parts was required to reduce inventory over the following years,

With that said, I worked for a company that used standard parts which were required to fit old, new and future machines with no mods. How ever if someone of some influence in the company said we want a new part her, sometimes for no real reason at all they got it, lesser mortals were then left to sort out what other new parts were required to get the necessary interchangeability, sometimes it was not pretty.
 
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