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Old Feb 5, 2016 | 03:38 PM
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Afternoon all,

I am looking to find a good option to buy some new/replacement rims for my crossfire. Evidently the wheels on these things are super soft and bend fairly easily. I am getting a lot of vibration on the highway and I have even had to get a crack in one of my rims welded. :/

Time for a whole new set I'm afraid.

Anyone know of some inexpensive options for replacement rims? Anything 5 spoke is fine. I'm not a huge fan of the tiny spoke styles.

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Old Feb 5, 2016 | 06:22 PM
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I have looked through soooooo many wheels.
Can I have some more info. and I will try and help.
Price range?
Do you run stock size tires or wider?
Do you want stock 18 / 19.
Flat, recessed or lip.
Chrome, silver, black, gold etc.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2016 | 06:43 PM
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Thanks for the Speedy response.

I have stock size tires on this puppy and I am just looking for something close to the original 7-spoke wheels that came with the car. Just want to replace the bad ones, this is not really an upgrade situation for me. If the car had fewer miles on it (110K) I might spend a little more and get something nicer, but I'm not sure how much longer I will have it.

One of the options that I like so far is the Mandrus Mannheim (GUNMETAL W/ MIRROR CUT FACE & LIP). Something like that will work. I would like to not spend more than $800 out the door. Not sure if that is possible.

Mannheim Mercedes Benz Wheels by Mandrus

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Old Feb 5, 2016 | 07:27 PM
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Wheels with lip narrows down alot in the sizes.
But a 18x8 or 8.5
And a 19x9.5
That bolt on are doable under $800.

I have 108 k on my ssb 6 spd and jeep leaning towards the rotary forged tsw bathurst or Geneva in 18x8.5 and 19x10.5 stronger and lighter.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2016 | 07:38 PM
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Do you run stock sizes or choose to go wider rears like most of us?
Stock 255 35
I run 275 35 and 285 35
Fills out wheel well alot better looks alot better imo and with all season tires and all my driving like the wider contact patch in winter, makes a difference.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2016 | 08:13 PM
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Are spacers ok with you or do you want to stay away from spacers
 
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Old Feb 5, 2016 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedy4x4
Are spacers ok with you or do you want to stay away from spacers
Small spacers like these has hub ring adapter

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Or just hub rings


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Old Feb 5, 2016 | 08:56 PM
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Ahhhh, I hate it when I spend half a hour typing alot of info then push the wrong button and delete it all


Esr wheels is a newer company, there site does not show a 5x112 bolt pattern but when I called some of there dealers last summer they will drill the 5x112 bolt pattern 18x8 et +30 and 19x9.5 et +22 wheels drilled and shipped around 800 or alittle less if I remember.
The esr sr04 is a 5 spoke silver with lip.
http://esrwheels.com/products/sr04
 
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Old Feb 5, 2016 | 10:08 PM
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Inovit force 5 is like the srt wheels but better and under 800 for all 4


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Stern wheels has a 5 spoke with lip steel wheel, can get all 4 for under 800 there are a couple crossfire on here that have sterns and like them.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2016 | 09:28 AM
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Stern Wheel Site

I run the ST1's, 19" and 20".

I receive tons of compliments. And have had zero issues.

I wasn't aware they made a steel wheel.

And it looks like they are ALL "out of stock".
 

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Old Feb 6, 2016 | 10:24 AM
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When using non-stock wheels, please be aware that the Crossfire is hub-centric. This meant that the hub ring is what centers the wheel and the lugs just hold it on. Also the hub is 66.56mm diameter so the wheel center should be 67-68mm.


Many aftermarket wheels have larger hubs so one-size-fits-all (badly)


As to shim, in general you can go up to 3mm and keep the hub centered. Any larger and the shim needs a raised lip on the front to maintain the centering.


Some have had luck just using the lugs (acorn style), others have experience bad vibration. Have even heard of some running Ford (114.3x5) wheels on GM (115x5).
 
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Most wheels even the ones that have a 5x112 bolt pattern even have a 73 mm hub bore that need a hub spacer, there are wobble bolts so a 5x114.3 will match on a 5x112.
 
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Originally Posted by maxcichon
Stern Wheel Site

I run the ST1's, 19" and 20".

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There is another crossfire I have seen online that has the stern Yoshi's
 
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Old Feb 6, 2016 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Padgett
When using non-stock wheels, please be aware that the Crossfire is hub-centric. This meant that the hub ring is what centers the wheel and the lugs just hold it on..
I honestly don't think that matters, There is zero play in any type of bevel either conical or spherical. It will affect what rims will fit, but only really matters if you are using the old "mag style" nuts with washers. And even those on a 5 bolt pattern have very minimal change of any type of being off center.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2016 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pioneer4x4
I honestly don't think that matters, There is zero play in any type of bevel either conical or spherical. It will affect what rims will fit, but only really matters if you are using the old "mag style" nuts with washers. And even those on a 5 bolt pattern have very minimal change of any type of being off center.
You are assuming that the holes in the wheels, the threads in the hub and the ball is concentric to the thread on the stud, are all dead accurate. An accumulation of tolerances could actually mean that the ***** are biasing the wheel one way as not all the ***** are evenly seated.
The design calls for a hub location and tolerances would possibly not be so tight because of it, it costs money to be more accurate than needed.
I think there are threads that point to this situation.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2016 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
You are assuming that the holes in the wheels, the threads in the hub and the ball is concentric to the thread on the stud, are all dead accurate. An accumulation of tolerances could actually mean that the ***** are biasing the wheel one way as not all the ***** are evenly seated.
The design calls for a hub location and tolerances would possibly not be so tight because of it, it costs money to be more accurate than needed.
I think there are threads that point to this situation.
Well, assuming any of that is true then either the wheel, or the hub or the bolts would HAVE to give. One of those three would break, period. You (by "you" I mean anyone/anything) CANNOT seat a ball socket off center. That entirely is the point of them. Look back to the old VW wheels, they were inches away from the hub center, and they could not move.
 
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Originally Posted by pioneer4x4
Well, assuming any of that is true then either the wheel, or the hub or the bolts would HAVE to give. One of those three would break, period. You (by "you" I mean anyone/anything) CANNOT seat a ball socket off center. That entirely is the point of them. Look back to the old VW wheels, they were inches away from the hub center, and they could not move.
Agree or disagree with what I said you are advocating the use of spacers that are not hub centric.
Why do you think our hubs have such an accurate centring boss?
 
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
Agree or disagree with what I said you are advocating the use of spacers that are not hub centric.
Why do you think our hubs have such an accurate centring boss?

Guess someone hasn't noticed all those threads of "help.. car shakes at 50mph".. and the aftermarket wheels syndrome ..
 
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Old Feb 7, 2016 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
Guess someone hasn't noticed all those threads of "help.. car shakes at 50mph".. and the aftermarket wheels syndrome ..
Some people do not do mechanical design for a living so excuses can be made for them .... just.

One ball seat will align if the parts are free to move, two ball seats less so and five ball seats .... not so much.
 
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