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Old Feb 7, 2016 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
Agree or disagree with what I said you are advocating the use of spacers that are not hub centric.
Why do you think our hubs have such an accurate centring boss?
No, that is incorrect, if this was about spacers, I apologize. Spacers need to be perfectly flat and centered, same with wheels. Wheels with any sort of beveled fastener, cannot be off center, unless the wheel or the hub was drilled that way.

Most spacers do not center on the fastener (mag style can, if made correctly), and typically have oval slots for studs/bolts so they work with many diameter patterns, and different size threads on bolts/studs, there is plenty of slop for them to go off center if they don't center off of the hub.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2016 | 02:59 PM
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As for the OP's question. The cheapest way to get nice looking quality rims is to get a set of used 17s from a Mercedes. There is a lot of options out there.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2016 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by pioneer4x4
No, that is incorrect, if this was about spacers, I apologize. Spacers need to be perfectly flat and centered, same with wheels. Wheels with any sort of beveled fastener, cannot be off center, unless the wheel or the hub was drilled that way.

Most spacers do not center on the fastener (mag style can, if made correctly), and typically have oval slots for studs/bolts so they work with many diameter patterns, and different size threads on bolts/studs, there is plenty of slop for them to go off center if they don't center off of the hub.
Your say;
Wheels with any sort of beveled fastener, cannot be off center, unless the wheel or the hub was drilled that way.

What I am saying is that all holes have tolerances as regard to size and location, one beveled fastener in one beveled hole will center. When there are more beveled bolt positions you are correct if all are dead accurate, but accuracy cannot be guaranteed in actuality. No machine is perfect and threaded holes with bolts cannot be held to the same accuracy as bored holes alone.
So our hubs use a center locator and the bolts will not be dead nuts with the holes in the wheels and the bolts will snug down in most cases slightly off the true center. You may see this when you study a wheel and see scratch marks tending to be heavier on one side of the seat. The wheel and hub will not match one another, they were made by different makers on different machines. You could get them to match more or less perfectly by drilling them together locating from the center location and indexing the holes positions.
I use the term more or less because nothing is perfect, even me I am told.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2016 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
Your say;

What I am saying is that all holes have tolerances as regard to size and location, one beveled fastener in one beveled hole will center. When there are more beveled bolt positions you are correct if all are dead accurate, but accuracy cannot be guaranteed in actuality. No machine is perfect and threaded holes with bolts cannot be held to the same accuracy as bored holes alone.
So our hubs use a center locator and the bolts will not be dead nuts with the holes in the wheels and the bolts will snug down in most cases slightly off the true center. You may see this when you study a wheel and see scratch marks tending to be heavier on one side of the seat. The wheel and hub will not match one another, they were made by different makers on different machines. You could get them to match more or less perfectly by drilling them together locating from the center location and indexing the holes positions.
I use the term more or less because nothing is perfect, even me I am told.

We are perfect in design but not in execution!!
 
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