Seeking Advice on Fixing Valve Cover Leaks
Seeking Advice on Fixing Valve Cover Leaks
Hey friends,
So I'm dealing with the infamous valve cover leaks on both the drivers and passengers sides. I was thinking of replacing the old gaskets with new RTV sealant myself, as described in this forum, but the job is probably beyond my skills and certainly beyond my toolbox. I am wondering, what would be the best way to get this fixed? The dealership is a possibility, but they are slow, expensive, and an hour away. Would it make sense to print out instructions from this forum and bring them to a mechanic's shop to seek an estimate? Or perhaps use a craigslist mobile mechanic? What would be a good price for this job and where could I obtain the parts in advance? I saw that I may need some new hex bolts but I am not sure if anything else is required.
Thanks in advance for your guidance and expertise.
blazodan
2004 Coupe
Illuminati Edition
Chrome trim
Large chrome wheels
Subwoofer
Sprint Booster
Many other bells and whistles
So I'm dealing with the infamous valve cover leaks on both the drivers and passengers sides. I was thinking of replacing the old gaskets with new RTV sealant myself, as described in this forum, but the job is probably beyond my skills and certainly beyond my toolbox. I am wondering, what would be the best way to get this fixed? The dealership is a possibility, but they are slow, expensive, and an hour away. Would it make sense to print out instructions from this forum and bring them to a mechanic's shop to seek an estimate? Or perhaps use a craigslist mobile mechanic? What would be a good price for this job and where could I obtain the parts in advance? I saw that I may need some new hex bolts but I am not sure if anything else is required.
Thanks in advance for your guidance and expertise.
blazodan
2004 Coupe
Illuminati Edition
Chrome trim
Large chrome wheels
Subwoofer
Sprint Booster
Many other bells and whistles
Re: Seeking Advice on Fixing Valve Cover Leaks
30 minutes to pull both covers (remove air intake, unbolt coils from vc's, unbolt fuel line and deal with fuel spillage, unbolt and remove covers)
30 minutes disassembling and cleaning left valve cover
30 minutes disassembling and cleaning right valve cover
20 minutes resealing
30 minutes to reinstall everything
we have a kit with the gaskets, rtv benz sealant, cap and bolts. also the option of adding the rtv applicator gun and such if you want to do this yourself. we can walk you through it.
there is no way to do this in an hour without cutting a lot of corners.
Blazodan, i recommend you find a local independent Mercedes repair shop if you prefer to not get dirty on this one. Yes this is a very dirty one since you have to scrap a decade of old sealant/oil/crud off the covers before you can reseal them.
30 minutes disassembling and cleaning left valve cover
30 minutes disassembling and cleaning right valve cover
20 minutes resealing
30 minutes to reinstall everything
we have a kit with the gaskets, rtv benz sealant, cap and bolts. also the option of adding the rtv applicator gun and such if you want to do this yourself. we can walk you through it.
there is no way to do this in an hour without cutting a lot of corners.
Blazodan, i recommend you find a local independent Mercedes repair shop if you prefer to not get dirty on this one. Yes this is a very dirty one since you have to scrap a decade of old sealant/oil/crud off the covers before you can reseal them.
Re: Seeking Advice on Fixing Valve Cover Leaks
30 minutes to pull both covers (remove air intake, unbolt coils from vc's, unbolt fuel line and deal with fuel spillage, unbolt and remove covers)
30 minutes disassembling and cleaning left valve cover
30 minutes disassembling and cleaning right valve cover
20 minutes resealing
30 minutes to reinstall everything
we have a kit with the gaskets, rtv benz sealant, cap and bolts. also the option of adding the rtv applicator gun and such if you want to do this yourself. we can walk you through it.
there is no way to do this in an hour without cutting a lot of corners.
Blazodan, i recommend you find a local independent Mercedes repair shop if you prefer to not get dirty on this one. Yes this is a very dirty one since you have to scrap a decade of old sealant/oil/crud off the covers before you can reseal them.
30 minutes disassembling and cleaning left valve cover
30 minutes disassembling and cleaning right valve cover
20 minutes resealing
30 minutes to reinstall everything
we have a kit with the gaskets, rtv benz sealant, cap and bolts. also the option of adding the rtv applicator gun and such if you want to do this yourself. we can walk you through it.
there is no way to do this in an hour without cutting a lot of corners.
Blazodan, i recommend you find a local independent Mercedes repair shop if you prefer to not get dirty on this one. Yes this is a very dirty one since you have to scrap a decade of old sealant/oil/crud off the covers before you can reseal them.
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Re: Seeking Advice on Fixing Valve Cover Leaks
30 minutes to pull both covers (remove air intake, unbolt coils from vc's, unbolt fuel line and deal with fuel spillage, unbolt and remove covers)
30 minutes disassembling and cleaning left valve cover
30 minutes disassembling and cleaning right valve cover
20 minutes resealing
30 minutes to reinstall everything
30 minutes disassembling and cleaning left valve cover
30 minutes disassembling and cleaning right valve cover
20 minutes resealing
30 minutes to reinstall everything
Re: Seeking Advice on Fixing Valve Cover Leaks
Pizzaguy, I see you're OTP and not far from me. I'm certain your skill level is ahead of mine, so would you trust anyone in the area to fix this problem for me, assuming I get the parts from NeedsWings? Or, if it's really that much fun, maybe I could pay you to help? The burning oil smell is really starting to repress the car's sex appeal
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I am also wondering if this might be a job best suited for a mobile, craigslist mechanic. I know they lack credentials, but this seems fairly simple and they are only about $50 per hour. I also ordered new inner fender liners and hope to get some help installing those, too. Any advice is appreciated, as always. And I very much appreciate your generous offer to help.
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If you hang around w/ this site on your phone for quick reference, it could go well. Just make sure, they understand about the LOW torque specs. on the one time use replacement bolts. Needswings time assessment is very straightforward. (Always the constant professional) ! Mine would be more in line w/ pizzaguy, allowing for B.S., cold beer , war stories , good conversation.( All the good things, that come w/ ala_xfires's offer ,plus he knows what he's doing right outta the gate.)
Re: Seeking Advice on Fixing Valve Cover Leaks
If you hang around w/ this site on your phone for quick reference, it could go well. Just make sure, they understand about the LOW torque specs. on the one time use replacement bolts. Needswings time assessment is very straightforward. (Always the constant professional) ! Mine would be more in line w/ pizzaguy, allowing for B.S., cold beer , war stories , good conversation.( All the good things, that come w/ ala_xfires's offer ,plus he knows what he's doing right outta the gate.)
Re: Seeking Advice on Fixing Valve Cover Leaks
If you hang around w/ this site on your phone for quick reference, it could go well. Just make sure, they understand about the LOW torque specs. on the one time use replacement bolts. Needswings time assessment is very straightforward. (Always the constant professional) ! Mine would be more in line w/ pizzaguy, allowing for B.S., cold beer , war stories , good conversation.( All the good things, that come w/ ala_xfires's offer ,plus he knows what he's doing right outta the gate.)
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Re: Seeking Advice on Fixing Valve Cover Leaks
Thanks Steve. Regarding the bolts, I ordered mine from Needswings and they are apparently stainless steel. Are these one-time replacement bolts? Do they also require low torque? ala_xfire's offer is very appealing and I may well take him up if we can find the right time.
I'm thinking something on the order of seven foot-pounds (the bolts that hold the breather to the valve cover) and ten foot-pounds (the bolts that hold the valve covers on the engine).
I'ts all in the service manual - as well as the LONG thread here:
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...over-leak.html My adventure starts at post 218.
Re: Seeking Advice on Fixing Valve Cover Leaks
Hey Bill, was thinking of you during those Nor'easters up at the homestead...Hope you got to sunny Florida, before them. Shoot me a PM...Can you send me some vitamin D in a can , plz?...
Hows your valve covers doing?
Hows your valve covers doing?
Re: Seeking Advice on Fixing Valve Cover Leaks
Thanks for welcoming me as a new member.
I looked on here with regards to changing the fan belt as my local garage said you need specialist tools, and I managed to do the whole job in about 15 minutes with a 17mm socket and 2’ breaker bar. Very easy thank you.
but whilst doing this I did notice oil around the valve covers and also over what look like the ignition coils fastened to the rocker covers.
what’s the best way to clean these items? with them being electrical? Didn’t want to spray them with anything?
thanks in advance.
I looked on here with regards to changing the fan belt as my local garage said you need specialist tools, and I managed to do the whole job in about 15 minutes with a 17mm socket and 2’ breaker bar. Very easy thank you.
but whilst doing this I did notice oil around the valve covers and also over what look like the ignition coils fastened to the rocker covers.
what’s the best way to clean these items? with them being electrical? Didn’t want to spray them with anything?
thanks in advance.
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