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Old 05-30-2020, 09:03 AM
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i wonder how often it is convenient to replace it?
i found no links to it so am asking it here.
this is all that i have found but would like to hear from some that has more data:

https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&s...sclient=psy-ab
 
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Phil,, first the fuel filter a combination of fuel filter and fuel regulator, so make sure you get the right one Needswings.com iif your car shuts off after start , you may have a filter slightly clogging up or a vapor lock, not a reason to change the fllter , but if it shuts down and will not start for 5 min. or so ,,,RCM or could be fuel filter,( let the car sit for at an hour then turn on the key while llistening for the fuel pump if u do not here the pump it coukd be the pump or a clogged fuel filter) you will find most fuel filter/regulator will last 3 to 400,000 miles. some people just replace it just as a routine maintenance. as for me i removed mine replaced it with a manual adjustable regulator and a good high flow filter.. jim
 
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thanks for the input.
my car runs just fine, it has some 65k miles but i dont know when it was changed. i bought it about 1 year ago.
am just trying to learn how long these things run before needing replacement.
and thanks again for your help.
 
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i read somewhere that you need to learn what is the fuel pressure to determine if is necessary to replace the filter.
also found this thread, where they are discussing something about the pressure, but is too sophisticated for me, and i wonder if the pressures mentioned on the posts 1 and 2 are what we need.
i hope some1 could bring light on it.

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...el-filter.html
 

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also found this at the manual: https://zinref.ru/avtomobili/Chrysle...nglish/680.htm
it says that:
7. Pressure should not fall below 2.5 bar (36 psi) after 30 minutes.
8. If pressure falls below 2.5 bar (36 psi) within 30 minutes, it must be determined if a fuel injector, the check valve
within the fuel pump, or a fuel tube/line is leaking
 
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Phil , go ahead and change your fuel filter,, I think you want to. if you have a problem call me. ,,if you want to check your fuel pressure under the hood on the fuel rail their is a black cap looke like a valve cap ( it is a valve cap) a auto parts place will have the hose and guage. you should at iddle be around 58psi
 
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thank you for the input. pics?
ill try to learn where to connect the pressure gauge following your instructions.
but is not that i want to. if i dont have to i wont.
am trying to learn if it is necessary to do so, and that seems by learning the pressure.
thanks again.
 

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i just found this: https://workshop-manuals.com/chrysle...eck/page_1825/
i hope that will be all that i need, but if you still have more details, please send them in.
 
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i just found this: https://workshop-manuals.com/chrysle...eck/page_1825/
i hope that will be all that i need, but if you still have more details, please send them in.
very expensive but u can make one by getting a tire hose extension for duel wheels and put a guage on it . the fitting on your fuel is like a valve steem it is a schrader valve,,, to releve the fuel pressure, so you can change the filter, with a small screw driver push in the pin in the schrader valve you should fet fuel out ,,, the only time i have ever checked the fuel presure on a V6 was if the engine is losing power on top end if u have lots of mods ( around 360 hp and up at the wheels) and u lose power then check the fuel. psi on my V8 i have a pressure guage at the regulator and can read it any time i open the hood.
 
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Originally Posted by ala_xfire
That wont work. It says "tests pressure to 10 PSI"
We have 50-55 PSI.

This one should work :
https://www.amazon.ca/8milelake-Inje...e%2C185&sr=1-8
Phil get this one ,ala_xfire is right this one will work and it is $25 with free shipping. jim
 
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thank you guys. you are right. will order this.

now, could you provide details on how/where to connect it? or link/videos?
 

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ordered the pressure tester but in the meantime just replaced the fuel filter. car has 67,000miles. i got it 1 year ago. at the time i changed oil/filter and transmission. synthetic.
i changed fuel filter just because i didnt know if previous owners have done that. and maintenance schedule tells every 60,000 miles.
am glad i did. all around was rusted; when emptied it, gas flowed very dark.
and when i drove it runs so smooth.... frankly, i didnt expect any detectable change.
will open the old and see how it looks, but expect lots or dirt.
didnt know how important replacing it is.
 
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Old 06-09-2020, 01:01 PM
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how was inside:
cut open the old filter, spread the accordion-like paper and let it dry under the sun. strong smell. 1 side was considerably darker than the other.
stretched it with my bare hands and washed them, but was not able to get rid of the stench. washed several times but still the stench lasted until next day.
i guess some powerful ingredients in the gas were collecting there for a long time. gas coming out of the pump at the gas station does not smell even close to that.
found this about when to replace it:
" Sources online estimate filters should be replaced as soon as every 20,000 up to 40,000 miles or more. “If none is specified [in the owner's manual], replace it every one to two years depending on miles driven,” Kreitzer says. “Thirty thousand miles is a good idea for a ballpark interval.”
and replacing it made the engine run smoother, so it confirms the convenience of removing it earlier.
the screw that tightens the 8 figure clamp that holds together the pump and the filter was rusted and made things difficult. the clamp was rusted too, and the inner side of the cover had a good amount of leaves and dirt. maybe it was not as tight as should be. but the pump and the filter were clean, perhaps because are made of aluminum.
i think it is convenient, as preventive maintenance, to open it now and then and check for dust/dirt.
the bad thing of buying a xf with over 60,000 miles is that there are many things that should be done way before, and you have no idea what previous owners had done.
the good thing for me, is that i like to work on my car, to do as much as possible instead of taking it a mechanic. about the changes of oils and the like, i prefer to do it myself because am sure that the right material was used. when leave it to a garage you cant be sure if they did it right. we see so many reports of mismanaging that is scaring.
anyway, this is it. thank you for following me in this adventure. and i like this car more everyday.
 

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just learned something that makes life easier:
MAKE SURE YOU RELEASE THE PRESSURE FIRST BY REMOVING FUSE 5 FROM THE RELAY CONTROL MODULE AND RUNNING THE ENGINE UNTIL IT STOPS.
 
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or place a rag/shop towel around the test port and press the Schrader valve.
 
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am getting this message at my site by alaxfire but cant bring it here: or place a rag/shop towel around the test port and press the Schrader valve.
so, where is that valve?
thanks
i hope your answer gets here.
 
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Originally Posted by phil alvirez
am getting this message at my site by alaxfire but cant bring it here: or place a rag/shop towel around the test port and press the Schrader valve.
so, where is that valve?
thanks
i hope your answer gets here.
front top passenger side of the engine, you will see a black plastic cover like whats on an A/C connection. right by the passenger side round gold thing in this picture.

Nikon camera - black krinkle valve covers
 


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