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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 01:48 AM
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Why is nobody on here running any twin charged set ups? Are these things capable of making some real power with a turbo added to the mix? I've been lookin all around for information, as i've heard it's been done but can't find anything. Is this the most popular Crossfire forum? With this being a German car i'm suprised there isn't a bigger tuning market. Is there a difference in the engine of a SRT-6 vs. a NA Crossfire? If you wanted to get real power out of a Crossfire, what model would you choose? I have never noticed this car before, but a V-6 rwd 6 speed hard top coupe seems like a good platform. Does anyone use their car to race or are they all daily drivers?
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 05:17 AM
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Bazzy, you're not hashin anything that hadn't been hashed here before ! Seek and Ye shall find.
Do a search !
Oh and being as though this is your first post, Welcome to the Best Lil XFire Site on the Net !
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 05:34 AM
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Bazzy, WELCOME! And YES this is the most popular Crossfire site. You found us!

As far as twin charged setup. We'll let you buy an SRT and do the conversion. That way we will all know how!

SRT would be the way to go cuz of the forged internals. Available only with the automatic so your six speed twin charged Crossfire is gonna be pricey!!
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 08:22 AM
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Why is nobody on here running any twin charged set ups? Are these things capable of making some real power with a turbo added to the mix? I've been lookin all around for information, as i've heard it's been done but can't find anything. Is this the most popular Crossfire forum? With this being a German car i'm suprised there isn't a bigger tuning market. Is there a difference in the engine of a SRT-6 vs. a NA Crossfire? If you wanted to get real power out of a Crossfire, what model would you choose? I have never noticed this car before, but a V-6 rwd 6 speed hard top coupe seems like a good platform. Does anyone use their car to race or are they all daily drivers?
I know what you mean dawg, all these srt's running around on here making pretend power when they could do a twin or quad turbo setup and make real power. That is whack and it is double whack no one is running vtakkk on them cars either.

You might be able to find some info on the crossfire turbo setups here:

crossfireturbo.org

I hope that helps you with your quest, let us be knowing how you do. As far as I know there has never been anyone to try and race a crossfire or a srt6, maybe you can be bein da first yo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 08:26 AM
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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Yea, i'm not an idiot. I know the SRT only came in automatic. Thanks for the enlightening responses, no wonder i couldn't find much info on here.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 11:02 AM
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Why is nobody on here running any twin charged set ups? Are these things capable of making some real power with a turbo added to the mix? I've been lookin all around for information, as i've heard it's been done but can't find anything. Is this the most popular Crossfire forum? With this being a German car i'm suprised there isn't a bigger tuning market. Is there a difference in the engine of a SRT-6 vs. a NA Crossfire? If you wanted to get real power out of a Crossfire, what model would you choose? I have never noticed this car before, but a V-6 rwd 6 speed hard top coupe seems like a good platform. Does anyone use their car to race or are they all daily drivers?
1. Real power? There are guys on here making nearly 500 at the crank.
2. You can't find anything? There have been several documented failures on this forum.
3. Yes, this is the most popular forum.
4. Why would there be a bigger tuning market? Relative to the Mercedes developments, the Crossfire has been quite fortunate.
5. Yes. People race. There is an entire section of the forum dedicated to that topic.
6. Please do a little research on your own, or you will get bashed. Searchable member input is the most basic feature of a forum.
7. Your questions get raised quite frequently by people who haven't used the search function. Don't be surprised by the sarcastic remarks.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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With N20 though, am i correct? I have searched and searched, i wouldn't make a thread without doing that. Why have these engines not been pushed yet? They have been out for quite some time. Has there been a engine swap into it yet? I read about the one guy trying to put in a V8 that went nowhere with it, anybody else? And just for the record, i was going to buy either an SRT6 a year ago or an Audi TT and i MISTAKENLY went with the Audi because i wasn't in it for speed. After owning the car for a year and it being at the dealership for 8 of those 12 months for repairs, i'm looking to get rid of it. The SRT6 is looking very attractive now that the resale is so low on it
 

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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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There is no technical reason that you couldn't twin turbo a crossfire, the issue is most likely going to be cost. There have been many people to come on this forum touting their skills and bullet-proof ideas on how to turbo a crossfire (not saying you're doing that), never to be heard from again...presumably because they bombed in their attempts.

Another reason why the turbo setup isn't prevalent is because it is just so damned cheap and easy to get pretty big gains out of an SRT-6. Add a Cold Air Intake, a pulley, and a tune and all of the sudden you're at or over 400hp for under $1k in upgrades.

Mine is a daily driver and is currently stock. I am going to go with a NeedsWings intake and a tune (InMotion or LET)...and that's probably it performance-wise.

If you want to get an SRT and twin-turbo it, by all means, you have a whole forum full of people who would love nothing more than to see you succeed in your efforts. Even more, I would bet you'd receive a good amount of advice and encouragement along the way.

Best of luck with whatever you decide to do and welcome to our forum.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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With N20 though, am i correct? I have searched and searched, i wouldn't make a thread without doing that. Why have these engines not been pushed yet? They have been out for quite some time. Has there been a engine swap into it yet? I read about the one guy trying to put in a V8 that went nowhere with it, anybody else? And just for the record, i was going to buy either an SRT6 a year ago or an Audi TT and i MISTAKENLY went with the Audi because i wasn't in it for speed. After owning the car for a year and it being at the dealership for 8 of those 12 months for repairs, i'm looking to get rid of it. The SRT6 is looking very attractive now that the resale is so low on it
I will never understand the honda mindset of swaping engines on cars lol.

Why would you want to spend a fortune on this car to swap the engine? There is nothing wrong with the forged internal forced induction motor that came with the car.

Also, you did not search too hard if you could not find the hundreds and hundreds of threads (actually thousands of threads) on racing the srt6 and the na version of the crossfire IN THE RACING SECTION and in the crossfire section and in the srt6 section and in most member sigs.

Also, where do you get that this motor has not been pushed? I think running 10's in these cars is pretty damn good. It is not fast and furious as you are but hey what can you do.

Also, it would be a hell of a lot easier to add nitrous than it would be to do a fo' shizzle yo dawg engine swap yo (toss in some vtakkk too wif da twin charged turbo yo fo real).

No offense but I assume you are in high school since you are into dreaming of things the hard way such as engine swaps, twin-charging, turbo setups and so on instead of doing things the right way lol.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 12:36 PM
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Me personally? I wouldn't twin turbo one. I've never had experience turboing a car before, i wouldn't start on something that has been tried by many and failed. I was just asking what the biggest hurdle was. I'm assuming it'd be the ecu? I am suprised by the performance of the SRT6, just wondering why it's pretty limited in upgrades.

Edit: Actually i was talking about an LSx swap. No i'm not in highschool, i'm 23 and cars are my passion. Calm down.
 

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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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Me personally? I wouldn't twin turbo one. I've never had experience turboing a car before, i wouldn't start on something that has been tried by many and failed. I was just asking what the biggest hurdle was. I'm assuming it'd be the ecu? I am suprised by the performance of the SRT6, just wondering why it's pretty limited in upgrades.
What upgrades is it missing that you are looking for lmao?

Neon lights, air bags and vtec?
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bazzy
Me personally? I wouldn't twin turbo one. I've never had experience turboing a car before, i wouldn't start on something that has been tried by many and failed. I was just asking what the biggest hurdle was. I'm assuming it'd be the ecu? I am suprised by the performance of the SRT6, just wondering why it's pretty limited in upgrades.

Edit: Actually i was talking about an LSx swap. No i'm not in highschool, i'm 23 and cars are my passion. Calm down.
Buy a camaro if you want something with a LS(x) motor in it and save a fortune and countless hours of headaches and misery in troubleshooting.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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With N20 though, am i correct? I have searched and searched, i wouldn't make a thread without doing that. Why have these engines not been pushed yet?
Define "pushed". Are you talking about an all out drag car?

With only 3000 built, the aftermarket is a result of owners modifying on their own, and marketing their product on their own. When you ask why these engines haven't been pushed yet, you are devaluing the input from everyone on here who is trying to make their cars faster.

I think people are pushing the envelope quite nicely.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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Buy a camaro if you want something with a LS(x) motor in it and save a fortune and countless hours of headaches and misery in troubleshooting.
Yea you're right, swapping in such a crappy motor would be blasphemy. Tell that to the countless RX7s, miatas, 240s, 280s, 350zs, chevelles, mustangs, stolstices, skys, colorados, just about every car you can think of who have shoved an LSx under the hood.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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Define "pushed". Are you talking about an all out drag car?

With only 3000 built, the aftermarket is a result of owners modifying on their own, and marketing their product on their own. When you ask why these engines haven't been pushed yet, you are devaluing the input from everyone on here who is trying to make their cars faster.

I think people are pushing the envelope quite nicely.
More like how much power can you make without catastrophic engine failure. If the internals are forged on the SRT-6, they can probably take a bit of abuse. Has anyone been able to up the boost of the stock supercharger? I'm saying, apart from just adding bolt ons to the car, what else can be done?
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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Yea you're right, swapping in such a crappy motor would be blasphemy. Tell that to the countless RX7s, miatas, 240s, 280s, 350zs, chevelles, mustangs, stolstices, skys, colorados, just about every car you can think of who have shoved an LSx under the hood.
MrPhotoman, I think you should sue him for that!

Sue Happy Thread
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 01:40 PM
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More like how much power can you make without catastrophic engine failure. If the internals are forged on the SRT-6, they can probably take a bit of abuse. Has anyone been able to up the boost of the stock supercharger? I'm saying, apart from just adding bolt ons to the car, what else can be done?
Upping the boost has been accomplished by adding pullies. More turns of supercharger pulley = more boost. There isn't any way to up the boost of the factory supercharger without a "bolt-on" pulley. What kind of thing do you mean "apart from just adding bolt ons"? Can you give an example?

It seems to me you don't understand what you are asking.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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MrPhotoman, I think you should sue him for that!

Sue Happy Thread
I already did, I hold the patent to swapping honda civic motors in the crossfire and chevy motors in the crossfire.

It is so much easier to swap out the motor than it is to swap in a pulley or a cold air intake, I can not believe anyone even bothers to do anything else.

Well I am off, I am going to go do some burnouts in my mustang with the ls1 motor in it then I am going to take out the honda civic with the mustang motor in it then i am going to do a quick run in the camaro with the toyota celica motor in it to make sure i have my neon lights wired right.

Also, you just got served tighed1:



 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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More like how much power can you make without catastrophic engine failure. If the internals are forged on the SRT-6, they can probably take a bit of abuse. Has anyone been able to up the boost of the stock supercharger? I'm saying, apart from just adding bolt ons to the car, what else can be done?
Kid, you have a lot to learn if you think you can just do a fast and furious turn of the dial to increase the boost on this type of supercharger lmao.

Do your homework, go eat dinner (mom said it was ready) and then come back and start using that search button. Hell, half of your silly high school ricer questions could have been answered just by glancing at a few sigs and skimming through the srt6 forum.

My guess is you are around 14 or 15 years old and watched too many ricer movies, just do 5 minutes of searches on here and it will do wonders for your car knowledge.
 
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