lack of power
lack of power
i must say when i first got my crossfire i had this idea that it was lacking in power (6 spd base) but over the past few days i've driven it on a daily basis and i am not sure if i am getting old or something but it boogies just enough ... especially when you hold it at 4k rpm and then punch the throttle it rips rather nice ... and it is a relief that no matter what rpm you are at right before you punch it, it is rather silent and then the tone changes when you open the throttle all the way ...
in a way, i am more hesitant to modify this car than ever ... the intake sound is tuned so well (as i assume is the cfm it flows) and so is the exhaust sound ... i doubt i could ever do any better !
this leaves me with the idea that i must leave it alone, just keep making it look nicer and leave my '95 neon for modification (2.4 turbo, 8 injectors) ...
i just wanted to share that with you guys cause its a breakthrough for me, cause i could never leave anything stock ... but damn i just don't think i can top the factory this time...
in a way, i am more hesitant to modify this car than ever ... the intake sound is tuned so well (as i assume is the cfm it flows) and so is the exhaust sound ... i doubt i could ever do any better !
this leaves me with the idea that i must leave it alone, just keep making it look nicer and leave my '95 neon for modification (2.4 turbo, 8 injectors) ...
i just wanted to share that with you guys cause its a breakthrough for me, cause i could never leave anything stock ... but damn i just don't think i can top the factory this time...
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Re: lack of power
What a refreshing post!
I've been tired of hearing about how the Crossfire (non-SRT6) is underpowered since I first got here. I find my Limited coupe autostick 215 HP has all the power I need, and then some.
At my ripe old age of 53, this is the first auto transmission I've ever owned and I accept that any initial lag in response is primarily due to that. But once it catches gear, this magnificently agile car shoots down the road with a wonderful, yet dignified ROAR. There's plenty of power under the hood.
I've never quite understood why so many people feel this car needs to be a rocket. As for me, riding a mere jet is more than fine, thank you.
I've been tired of hearing about how the Crossfire (non-SRT6) is underpowered since I first got here. I find my Limited coupe autostick 215 HP has all the power I need, and then some.
At my ripe old age of 53, this is the first auto transmission I've ever owned and I accept that any initial lag in response is primarily due to that. But once it catches gear, this magnificently agile car shoots down the road with a wonderful, yet dignified ROAR. There's plenty of power under the hood.
I've never quite understood why so many people feel this car needs to be a rocket. As for me, riding a mere jet is more than fine, thank you.
Re: lack of power
Originally Posted by intenseblu
i just wanted to share that with you guys cause its a breakthrough for me, cause i could never leave anything stock ... but damn i just don't think i can top the factory this time...
Note: I nearly didn't buy the sprintbooster due to some members on the sprintbooster thread implying that this device was far too aggressive on the manual. All I can say is that unless the accelerator varies wildly from xfire to xfire and you do not have so little foot co-ordination that you can not walk in a straight line you adjust to it within minutes.
Re: lack of power
Originally Posted by midnightman
What a refreshing post!
I've been tired of hearing about how the Crossfire (non-SRT6) is underpowered since I first got here. I find my Limited coupe autostick 215 HP has all the power I need, and then some.
At my ripe old age of 53, this is the first auto transmission I've ever owned and I accept that any initial lag in response is primarily due to that. But once it catches gear, this magnificently agile car shoots down the road with a wonderful, yet dignified ROAR. There's plenty of power under the hood.
I've never quite understood why so many people feel this car needs to be a rocket. As for me, riding a mere jet is more than fine, thank you.
I've been tired of hearing about how the Crossfire (non-SRT6) is underpowered since I first got here. I find my Limited coupe autostick 215 HP has all the power I need, and then some.
At my ripe old age of 53, this is the first auto transmission I've ever owned and I accept that any initial lag in response is primarily due to that. But once it catches gear, this magnificently agile car shoots down the road with a wonderful, yet dignified ROAR. There's plenty of power under the hood.
I've never quite understood why so many people feel this car needs to be a rocket. As for me, riding a mere jet is more than fine, thank you.
I feel the same way. The car has plenty of power and it puts it to the ground in very nice way. I also don't understand why some owners want to turn off the traction control, That has saved me a couple of times from a nasty spin. If the Crossfire had much more power it would not be such a GREAT daily driver. If you want a race car then go buy one. If you want a fun, fast stable car... Get a Crossfire.
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AMEN! This little baby has got plenty of guts for "just" 215 HP.
I personally feel the power of my Roadster fits the size of the car just fine. I love that I have still have plenty of pedal regardless of what speed I'm going. I can punch the pedal to pass slow cars, scoot around them and then coast back down to the speed. I can punch the pedal when traveling over 80 (ssshhh...) and the pick-up is a major high - it just takes off "like a rocket". Not enough HP? Whatever... Its just right... *sigh* In a word: PERFECT.
Thank you for being happy with what you got... and letting everyone know.
I personally feel the power of my Roadster fits the size of the car just fine. I love that I have still have plenty of pedal regardless of what speed I'm going. I can punch the pedal to pass slow cars, scoot around them and then coast back down to the speed. I can punch the pedal when traveling over 80 (ssshhh...) and the pick-up is a major high - it just takes off "like a rocket". Not enough HP? Whatever... Its just right... *sigh* In a word: PERFECT.
Thank you for being happy with what you got... and letting everyone know.
Re: lack of power
Originally Posted by brhertel
I agree. I also think the manual is better suited for this car then the auto. Try this: At about 50-55 MPH in 4th gear, clutch in, blip the throttle to match revs, shift to 3rd, clutch back out, then hammer the throttle. I LOVE doing that, and it sounds so good too!!
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I am new to this group and only have had the car for a week, after alot of posts hear I was beginning to think that these are not as good a car as I thought. It has I think great power, looks great and I think it is a very good buy for the money. I also am going against the grain and getting 17" wheels and tires that will cut down the road noise and let me enjoy the stereo alittle more and I bet it will still handle just fine (for Me).
Re: lack of power
Originally Posted by flow
I am new to this group and only have had the car for a week, after alot of posts hear I was beginning to think that these are not as good a car as I thought. It has I think great power, looks great and I think it is a very good buy for the money. I also am going against the grain and getting 17" wheels and tires that will cut down the road noise and let me enjoy the stereo alittle more and I bet it will still handle just fine (for Me).
Enjoy your new ride.
Re: lack of power
Just remember many people come here to help solve problems which make the car seem poor. This is the same with most car forums!
I personally love this car. I have the modification bug and can't leave anything alone, hell if I had a Ferrari I would modify that too. It is part of the fun for me.
If I wanted a car that would last forever, have good resale value, ect., I would have bought an Accord but what is the fun in that.
An Accord would be great for my mom but would not hit my happy spot.
Sometimes our cars become an extension of ourselves and I am proud to own a Crossfire!
I personally love this car. I have the modification bug and can't leave anything alone, hell if I had a Ferrari I would modify that too. It is part of the fun for me.
If I wanted a car that would last forever, have good resale value, ect., I would have bought an Accord but what is the fun in that.
An Accord would be great for my mom but would not hit my happy spot.
Sometimes our cars become an extension of ourselves and I am proud to own a Crossfire!
Re: lack of power
Originally Posted by stryfox
I personally love this car. I have the modification bug and can't leave anything alone, hell if I had a Ferrari I would modify that too. It is part of the fun for me.
Sometimes our cars become an extension of ourselves and I am proud to own a Crossfire!
Sometimes our cars become an extension of ourselves and I am proud to own a Crossfire!
Re: lack of power
Originally Posted by Fritzauf
Well said! I must agree!! I would enjoy more power at the starting line but I can't complain about the performance with this Automatic 5 speed.
Re: lack of power
Originally Posted by Sharonaln67
[COLOR=navy]AMEN! This little baby has got plenty of guts for "just" 215 HP.
Listed below are some Cubic inch, and Horse Power ratings taken from the Oct.1971 issue of Motor Trend magazine.
Keep in mind, these are all "V8" engines with 4 brl. carbs. (Except the XF of course).
.......................Cu. In.....................H.P.
Pontiac..............400......................200
Pontiac..............455......................220
Cadillac.............472.......................220
Pantera.............351......................202
Chrysler............440.......................225
Buick GS...........455.......................225
Chevrolet..........454.......................230
Olds..................455......................225
Crossfire...........188.......................215
As you can see, all things are "relative".
Personally, I think the h.p. of a Limited XF, is ideally suited for it's wheelbase and weight. If I had wanted a "drag racer", I would have purchased the SRT-6.
Re: lack of power
Originally Posted by Irafatsar
ok you and me up 8 to alpine 55 mph rolling start finish at the tavern overpass lets see who pulls who.
[edit] Although I'm not sure what difference tires will make.
Re: lack of power
Originally Posted by +fireamx
Sharon's post got me to thinking when she said the Crossfire had "just" 215 HP.
Listed below are some Cubic inch, and Horse Power ratings taken from the Oct.1971 issue of Motor Trend magazine.
Keep in mind, these are all "V8" engines with 4 brl. carbs. (Except the XF of course).
Listed below are some Cubic inch, and Horse Power ratings taken from the Oct.1971 issue of Motor Trend magazine.
Keep in mind, these are all "V8" engines with 4 brl. carbs. (Except the XF of course).
Re: lack of power
I drive an automatic, but I find I can spin the tires, from a standing start, on hard acceleration around a turn, even with traction control. You will need the seat supports if you turn as fast as the car will let you. This isn't a dragster, but for power, style and enjoyment, you're home.
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Lately I have noticed a lot of negative posts regarding the power and performance of our Crossfires. It seams that the mentality of many of those who are posting these negative posts are either comparing our car to muscle cars, higher performance cars, or ricer street racers which I don't understand why since our car was never marketed or promoted as such. I don't know how many of our members if any received or have even seen the Promotional CD Chrysler put out with the launch of the 2004 Crossfire but in that CD the car is promoted as touring car, thus the reason for the luggage:
As a touring car I can't think of another car in it's class for the same money. I have taken this car on numerous 3K mile trips ranging from 6 to 10 hours a day in the car and I don't find it uncomfortable at all to drive. I have no problem with the horse power and I have never found it lacking the ability to hang with the vettes on the highway at 120-150 mph nor have I seen a problem with the handling as it goes into a 20 mph hair pin curve at 45 mph. The car is absolutely fantastic for what it was designed for, road trips not racing. Okay with the one exception; HDDP's car since he has done an extensive amount of modification to his car.
The bottom line is the Crossfire is just plain fun to drive at all speeds!
Dreamed in America, Crafted in Germany.
Crossfire was not conceived as a mere exercise in styling prowess, but to be a true world class touring car in every respect.
Crossfire was not conceived as a mere exercise in styling prowess, but to be a true world class touring car in every respect.
The bottom line is the Crossfire is just plain fun to drive at all speeds!
Last edited by Idaho; 01-29-2012 at 01:33 AM.
Re: lack of power
I was reading this post, and wondered if those with the auto stick know they can reset to factory defaults the response time of the throttle?
As I recall there is a post here somewhere about how to...
I recall that you turn on the ignition and without starting the engine press the throttle to the floor for 30 seconds.
Then take you foot off the throttle.
Turn off the ignition and leave in ignition for I think 2 more minutes.
And then its reset.
As I recall there is a post here somewhere about how to...
I recall that you turn on the ignition and without starting the engine press the throttle to the floor for 30 seconds.
Then take you foot off the throttle.
Turn off the ignition and leave in ignition for I think 2 more minutes.
And then its reset.