what do you think. pretty good reaction time but i spun 1st and 2nd i can prob get a 14.5. i practially have slicks. tires are shitty. new one next week end.
all i have is a magnaflow cat back. what you think

 

Decent run for damm near stock. Better than the 15.5

Throttle reset works don't it?
NOW,
You need stickers. Flames work well and cut seconds off your trap times.
Get some cold air going through, a tune and maybe some bigger injectors.
I hear on the 04 you can pull the fuse on the trac control. Not sure but think Firemax suggested it.

A little tire spin ain't bad. Chirp in second and third means you are shifting within the power band




roadster with a stick

 

looks like it was quite a close race between you and the car next to you (when including reaction time)

Road & Track pulled a 14.7 on a 2004 stock Crossfire, so assuming the exhaust doesn't give any hp, as everyone says, you're right there with that

 

Hey Franc,

Are you in the 13's?

 

Nope. Haven't put the Crossie on the track yet.
Two reasons.
One, it is not a dragster and I haven't set it up as such.
Two, I plan to trap this summer at the CAA event just to get a ticket and see. Until then I'm just getting things ready.

As to 13's. I don't believe anyone has done 13's in an NA without squirting NO2. Could be wrong there, but under 14 is a challenge on straight air.

If my initial times this summer are good I may pursue it. Meanwhile low 14's would make me happy.


franc

 

725, was that a 4200 RPM drop clutch (launch control) effort?

Did you keep the gas pedal to the floor during shifts?

 

Great run, as Bill pointed out 14.7 was the best time I've ever seen posted for a 6 spd.
If you have any friends with Crossfires, see if they will loan you their front tires to put on the back of your car for a few runs. The smaller diameter should effectivly give you about a 3.45 gear ratio, and less rotating mass to overcome.
Just make sure you dissconect the center wire on your traction control.
It sits right in front of your battery.
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Push your mirrors inward, and you can even go so far as to put your whindshield wipers in a vertical position, on your windshield and pull the fuse. I'd suggest pulling the fuse on your rear spoiler as well. It's in the fuse box in front of the steering wheel. Less parasitic drag.
Good Luck

 

You sure you're using pure premium......no ETOH?

Best 0-60 I've seen was by MOTORWEEK.....6.3 sec....never dreamed MOTORWEEK would ever get a better 0-60 than C&D or R&T.

 

What he said.

And while you're at it, driving barefoot drops a pound or two. Take a nice healthy dump, remove your floormats and get a haircut. All of those things combined will net you another .05 seconds.

I'm being sarcastic, LOL

+fireamx has some good pointers, but I'd feel silly going through all of those motions to only realize a mid 14 timeslip... Especially when our SRT-6 buddies roll up with their girlfriend in the passenger seat and STILL run a low 13.

It's a poky car... I've just learned to accept it. But it's the sexiest poky car I've ever known

 

This Friday tvt is gutting my rear cats, he that that will help, then soon after I will have an intake, and then a 3inch manifold and maf. How much better do u think time will be. I also got new tire in this week too. I was thinking about gettin a smaller rim an drag radials for the rear but idk, wat ya all think

 

The more you gut your exhaust, the better your engine is going to breath, and it will help you out on the high end, but down low you will sacrifice some bottom end torque, and maybe hurt your 60' times, so it's a trade off. Completely stock Crossfires have gained as much as a 4/10's improvement with a CAI.
Our cars don't have the explosive power the SRT's display, nor do we have a steep enough gear to warrant drag radials, IMO. A good set of smaller diameter 17" or 18" rear tires would surprise you.
John (JHM2K) as you pointed out in Cross725's other post, You're not a drag racer, and that's not what you purchased your XF for. Now there's nothing wrong with that, I didn't buy mine to drag race either. But Cross725 wants to take his car to the drags and wring out the very last ounce of performance he can.
So why be embarrassed with a 14 sec. ET when an SRT turns 13's and even 12's? The two cars are simply in different classes. Just like a 427/435 hp Vette wasn't in the same class as a Vette with a 327/300 hp. But I bet the small block owner had just as much fun running mid 14's and racing other cars (in its class), so there's a place for everybody.
When I raced nearly ever weekend in the early 70's, a lot of guys use to race bracket racing. They'd simply dial in what ever ET they projected their cars would run and have at it. More ofter than not, the top eliminator was some old guy driving a 1966, 6 cyl, Biscayne with a powerglide turning in the 18's. I bet he was never embarrassed going home with the money every Saturday night.

 

Ok, to each their own, but it sounds like you are really getting into this drag racing. If this is something that you really enjoy, have you given any thought to selling your Crossfire and getting an SRT? You can throw litterally thousands of dollars into an NA to get better times at the track, but at this point, you are only going to be looking at shaving a tenth or 2 here and there. With prices the way they currently are, you should be able to sell your NA and add a couple grand to get an SRT that can very easily be modded to get into the very low 12's (See my sig.) and with a little more work, you can get into the high 11's. If you are content with 14s, then stay with what you got, but I would not invest a lot of money to get into the low 14's. That money would be better utilized in purchasing an SRT. Also consider that the SRT internals are a lot stronger and will hold up better for drag racing. Do not take this like I am an SRT evangalist, because the truth is, that both cars have their place. The NA's are wonderful cars for road racing and tearing up the twisties, and there is not better bang for the buck for doing so. But, if you want to go fast in a straight line, the NA is not designed for that. My 2 cents.

P.S. The SRT will tear the twisties up too.

 

Agreed, bracket racing can be a hoot. And if he was asking "How do I get the most consistent 14.9" then I would be greatly inclined to believe he's a bracket racer.

But, he's not. He's wanting to take the base Crossfire engine, dump thousands of dollars into it, to hit *AT BEST* high 13's...

When a buddy is about to kill a bottle of Jack and fight a lineman, you try to stop him. Not because you doubt his "zeal" to fight; but rather you KNOW it isn't going to end well.

Having said all of that, I commend him for being competitive and having as much fun as possible in his car. I simply don't want to be an accomplice in the crime of making him think the N/A will one day be a threat at the dragstrip. Cause it won't

At any rate, he's having fun. I applaud him.

My fun happens when I turn L-R-L-R-L-R-L-R-L-R-L-R-L

And he probably thinks I'm goofy and I need to buy a Lotus. Hehe

 

Looks like you both were asleep at the tree .... ! 2.2 ain't nothin to write home about ... Sorry !

 

Sometimes, it is not about beating everyone atthe track, it is about beating your personal best. Yourself
My 348 tripowered 60 chevy convertible went from 19 to 15's andi wa impressed. But my friends 60 Biscayne 327 3 onthe reee went into the 11's.
Of course he had to bum a ride to work with me as his wasn't street legal. Mine on the other hand spent it's weekends circling the Steak and Shake with a few gals and guys in the seats.

Just the success of improving your car, and making it special to your liking is a winner in my book.

There is always some pride in having the fastest slow car in the neighborhood.


roadster with a stick

 

You can always go faster by taking weight out of the car. Empty the washer fluid, take out the passenger seat, run with only enough gas to have fun a get to a station afterwards. Buy a bag of ice and ice down the intake manifold before you line up to run. Take the belt off and push the car to the line. Lots of no cost tricks. Leave the carpets and jack at home. Practice helps. I get the most satisfaction improving my performance as much or more than the cars.

Les

 

After you do all that you might get some noticable improvement. Now with the CAI new maf and all, why aren't you having Anthony drop in a tune?

Get him to raise the rev limiters on gears 1,2,3 at least.
Find out where you power band now is and run your gears longer if you can.

Stock the NA goes to 33MPH in 1st. Jump the rev limiter up to 6300, and you can run to 39. Seems a small difference but shifting takes just as long no matter how long the power pulls in each gear. 1st gear is a neck snapper, so make the most of it by extending the time there, get a better launch.

When you can approach 90 MPH in 3rd still pulling torque, you will see better speeds post launch, getting closer to the 2 sec at 60 and better 1/8 mile times.

In other words a great percentage of your time will be pulling not shifting.

roadster with a stick


roadster with a stick

 

I must of missed the part where he said his budget was in the 1000's.

Personally, I'd like to see somebody get a NA car into the 13's, (without using juice) and I think it can be done without spending 1000's. Unfortunately, we don't have the option of a simple ring & pinion swap.
I really think all it would take is some wide 24" diameter rear tires (to compensate for the lack of a better gear) a good tune, a CAI, (maybe larger injectors) and lots of practice should do it.
Maybe XF725 is like me, and doesn't feel the need to run 12's or even in the 11's to enjoy his drag racing experience.
I spent big dollars just to have a 11 sec. car, and found out I enjoy my "Oh so slow" Crossfire even more.
No argument, for maximum 1/4 mile performance for the least amount of money spent, the SRT is the way to go. But not everybody needs that much of an adrenalin rush to have fun.

 

Hey, no argument here my friend.

Clearly I'm an N/A advocate; I picked one OVER a comparatively priced SRT, simply because of the overall rarity/color combo and pristine condition of the coupe I ended up with.

Life ain't all about brute speed...

 

Yes it is! jk