Ran a 14.8 at the track
actually, by looking at yourslip, i can defintely see that those magnaflows are flowing pretty damn good. allowing the car to breathe. thats s badass mph. good job.
Originally Posted by Musclefan21
actually, by looking at yourslip, i can defintely see that those magnaflows are flowing pretty damn good. allowing the car to breathe. thats s badass mph. good job.
im going this Friday after the cars being gutted if improvement i will post. and soon to come intake 3 inch maf and 3 inch manifold. then later tune/injectors. will keep everyone posted on improvement.i agree with wat everyone is saying that i cant make a whole alot of progress its just fun for me. i will let everyone know.
Originally Posted by JHM2K
And that's all that matters, my friend.
Originally Posted by bmorgan
You say that now.... But wait until he decides to put an SRT wing on the back of his Alabaster beauty. LOL
I am assuming 14.5 stock is doable with these cars with a driver. So 13 second N/A is VERY doable. at these levels, knocking of .5 isnt a big deal. However, I wont be finding this out myself. I have no interest in modifying her, she will never meet my expectations on straightline
Originally Posted by Musclefan21
I am assuming 14.5 stock is doable with these cars with a driver. So 13 second N/A is VERY doable. at these levels, knocking of .5 isnt a big deal. However, I wont be finding this out myself. I have no interest in modifying her, she will never meet my expectations on straightline 
Once I get the CAA behind me I'm gonna try. Right now there just aren't enough weekends to do it right.
Originally Posted by Musclefan21
I am assuming 14.5 stock is doable with these cars with a driver. So 13 second N/A is VERY doable. at these levels, knocking of .5 isnt a big deal. However, I wont be finding this out myself. I have no interest in modifying her, she will never meet my expectations on straightline 
Originally Posted by bmorgan
.5 is a pretty big deal on these cars, and very expensive to do. Now, if it were a mustang where bolt on parts are readily available and cheap, I would agree. It would be interesting to see what it would cost to get a NA into the 13s, without sacrificing the car with weight reduction i.e. ripping panels, carpet, dash, etc.
I ran a 13.4 with a car on a HOT day which weighted 3500lbs made 300hp and 320 lbs of toque. (which had potential to run 13.2 or quicker but i sold it) xfire weighs 3000lbs and makes 85 less hp and 90 less torque. Yeah gears were a bit different but it shouldnt effect it dramatically. So dont you think extra 50hp and 30-40tq (about 260hp and 260tq at 3000lbs is good enough for a 13 second run? I would be VERY happy to prove the whole board if anybody has something like that in the area. In return, you can take my car down to 1/4 mile so we can be even
Last edited by Musclefan21; Mar 31, 2010 at 07:24 PM.
Muscle, I would like to think you are right. You are saying that the NA has 215 hp. That is crank hp. I don't recall the exact numbers, but I believe that the NAs are somewhere around 176 RWHP. I don't know what it will take to get one into the 13s without spray, but I would love to see someone do it. There are some pretty smart people here, so I am sure that we will see it done before too much longer.
Originally Posted by bmorgan
Muscle, I would like to think you are right. You are saying that the NA has 215 hp. That is crank hp. I don't recall the exact numbers, but I believe that the NAs are somewhere around 176 RWHP. I don't know what it will take to get one into the 13s without spray, but I would love to see someone do it. There are some pretty smart people here, so I am sure that we will see it done before too much longer.
Dyno says 229 lbs torque at 5800 rpm
I am no where near turning in 13's
Next Tuesday I may try the local track to see where I actually am with the car right now.
My production tech is running his 2004 Mustang GT and I might tag along behind. He is doing high 13's now but with his new CAI I'm betting he will be 13.2.
If not, we are adding flame stickers to the hood. I'll let ya'll know how the flame mods help out.
Sadly for him, if he makes the 13.2 on this track he won't be able to return without a roll bar on his vert.
Me, I'll be happpy with a 14.5 on street tires and 19" rears.
roadster with a stick
Last edited by Franc Rauscher; Mar 31, 2010 at 10:11 PM.
I took my car to englishtown today, I was just curious to see what it would run... I'll start off my ricer excuses with this.. I drove 2 hours through traffic to get to the track and didn't let the car cool down and I think the engine was heat soaked.. I couldn't cool it down, I had the heat on full blast with the hood open and the temp stayed right about the middle line. I feel like the car performs best when the temp is 1 line below the center line. There were barely any cars at the track, so there were no lines at the starting gates... I couldn't sit around waiting for the car to cool because I was missing out on runs
. So the heat issue is totally my fault. I really couldn't launch the car either It would bog down with the TC off so I pulled the fuses, which helped. I still couldn't trap any higher than 95 all day
. Doing some ricer math, I should have run a 14.1.. My best reaction was a .028 lol and this was not a good launch
Who am I kidding, I need more power lol.
The results (right lane).....
The results (right lane).....
Last edited by downwardspiral; Apr 1, 2010 at 02:19 AM.
Originally Posted by bmorgan
Muscle, I would like to think you are right. You are saying that the NA has 215 hp. That is crank hp. I don't recall the exact numbers, but I believe that the NAs are somewhere around 176 RWHP. I don't know what it will take to get one into the 13s without spray, but I would love to see someone do it. There are some pretty smart people here, so I am sure that we will see it done before too much longer.
I said i could run a 12 second in a stock LS1 trans am and people were like, good luck, it aint happening and i ran a 12.98. (magazines ran mid 13s)
i said i could run a low 13 second run in an 06 GT in 2006 (at the time everyone was running 14s and some were running high 13s) but people were like, dude those things are high 13s, low 14s cars. and i went and ran 13.4 on a hot day with 2 weeks behind the wheel of that car. To this day i claim that i can run a 13.2 easy with one. (magazines ran 13.7-13.8)
I claimed that I could run at least a 12.7 or 12.6 with my stock 03 cobra and i ran a 12.70 even after i let the gas go twice due to massive wheelhop (magazines ran 12.9)
then i modded the cobra and other cobra drivers with the same mods as me were running low 12s high 11s. I one day posted on an online board that i thought i could run an 11.4 or quicker with it and it was biggest BS calling thread ever, i was given hell. The next week i went and got me an 11.34 timeslip which stopped a lot of people.
I actually have a video of that run, here:
YouTube - 2003 cobra
and many many street racing includes but i will keep them to myself
I dont want to brag but I claim that a full bolts on N/A on a cool nice air will go 13s. However, this is something i will not be able to back up because it costs way too much to mod these things so i will stay as a bench racer on this
For the love of god, somebody go do it!!
Originally Posted by Chris L.
Well, you're right there with the #s the car mags reported.......was that a 4200 RPM drop clutch launch?
LOL....Muscle, I don't doubt that an NA can get into the 13s. I think we are saying the same thing. It will just cost a lot of money on a Crossfire to do it. Limited production = big $$$ for performance mods.
BTW... impressive numbers on the other rides, and I would not question your abilities at all. I know you are a standup guy.
BTW... impressive numbers on the other rides, and I would not question your abilities at all. I know you are a standup guy.
Originally Posted by downwardspiral
My car isn't stock lol. It should be running lower 14's than that. I wasn't launching it hard because I couldn't get that method to work.. It was closer to 3000. Maybe that's the problem. I kept missing gears when I launched it harder so I was focusing on getting 2nd and 3rd into gear more than everything else that was going on. I'm itching to go back already and I just got home haha.
Might be a big key to getting into the 13's. As the 2 sec 60 foot time slips indicate, launch is klunky on these cars.
Lot a work though. I'm not doing it until my first clutch overhaul.
roadster with a stick



