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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 04:42 PM
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So the dealer looked at the solders on the RCM, and they said they were fine but i don't believe that since they were hesitant to even want to do it earlier today. I am going to pull it out and have another look, but what else could cause the mystery engine stall and no restart?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 09:46 AM
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Hey, did you ever get this issue figured out because my srt-6 is doing the exact same thing. I too replaced the cps because the guy at autozone scaned my car and said that's what it was but.I didn't think to get the actual code from him. I have a new battery, new cps, and I'm looking at the relay circuit board and it looks fine. I will post a video of the relay since my phone won't upload a pic.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 10:17 AM
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The video link of my RCM is:
Crossfire srt-6 srt6 RCM - YouTube
Should I just resolder those joints anyway?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Lance1337
The video link of my RCM is:
Crossfire srt-6 srt6 RCM - YouTube
Should I just resolder those joints anyway?
That is not close enough to see any problems.
Solder the joints again, do not use acid cored solder or flux, use resin cored solder for electronic use.
Do a good job or you are wasting your time as just remelting the solder might not do the trick.
Ideally the solder should be removed, the pins cleaned and then re soldered.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 11:15 AM
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I went ahead and resoldered the joints anyway. Drove the car to lunch with no problems but that isn't far enough, I will know if that did the trick by the end of the day. I will take it apart and do what you said and remove and clean the pins if it happens again.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 02:57 PM
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I am sure it was his RCM...it heats up loses connection, cools down, re-connects so to speak. You have to use a magnifying glass to see the bad joints... I don't think a service writer at Chrysler owns one, unless they are provided...lol
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 03:10 PM
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Well it died in the usual amount of time (about 9 miles down the road). Guess i will be taking out the RCM again and this time doing a through job.
Car info: 2005 crossfire srt-6, 95,151 miles, new battery, new cps.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 07:34 AM
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What is the part number for the RCM? If this last attempt does not work should i replace the RCM or take it to the dealer and get raped?
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Lance1337
What is the part number for the RCM? If this last attempt does not work should i replace the RCM or take it to the dealer and get raped?
Mercedes Part #A170 545 03 05
Buy it from Mercedes not Chrysler or you will have to pay through the nose for the exact same part.

Is the engine light on? If so what codes have been set?
Are there any codes set without the engine light being on?
 

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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 08:10 AM
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The engine light is on, I'm going to take it to my friend at 12pm est to get the exact code it is throwing.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 08:53 AM
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If it's throwing a code and dying while operating I don't think the RCM is your problem.
Someone once replaced their bad CPS and their problems continued. Turns out the "new" CPS was also bad.
Just sayin.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 11:29 AM
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The code its throwing is PO335
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 12:08 PM
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Any solutions? I have done all of the above (new battery, new cps, stripped cleaned & resoldered said joints). Also when i contacted the auto parts store they said they only list one cps, so is the n/a cps the same as the srt-6 cps?
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 12:23 PM
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Just got off the phone with the dealer. The n/a crossfire cps is the same as the srt-6 crossfire cps. Well, I suppose I will have to take it to mom and pops auto repair or the dealership.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Lance1337
Just got off the phone with the dealer. The n/a crossfire cps is the same as the srt-6 crossfire cps. Well, I suppose I will have to take it to mom and pops auto repair or the dealership.
Is the plug or wire that fits on the CPS damaged?
Could be a bum CPS because thats the code for it.
There are ways to check voltage etc at the plug, so it is only the dealership that wants to keep throwing parts at these cars without putting a multi-meter on the wires.
 

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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 09:49 PM
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Our problem was actually the RCM Relay Control Moduale. It needs to be opened up and cleand and re sautered. Fixed our car, and has been golden for over a year.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 09:12 AM
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Check the actual pins. Someone i know (not ME! ) somehow bent the pins while connecting the connector together. Bent pin = no contact = fault code.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 09:35 AM
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We also never got a code, and it would not act up while the dealer had the car. Just up and randomly die, and would not refire.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 09:38 AM
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Ok, so dealer gave me a price to fix it today. $100 diagnostic fee, plus they highly reccomend me buy the mopar cps at $166, and magically there is another code now that points to the intake air temp sensor and that one is $53. So the parts plus the diagnostic is around $310 and they want another $320 to install and clear the codes....rape. thoughts?
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 09:55 AM
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Anyone know where the air intake temp sensor is located? I'm gonna replace it myself.
 
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