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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Vegaslegal
If you could look at an R&T, Motor Trend, etc of 1989, my recollection is that they all advised to get a low mileage Fiero V-6 and stick it in a garage and see what happens in 20 years. Twenty years was four years ago, and adjusting for inflation, everyone that followed this advise lost money. That's on a car "destined" for future collectability. That's not the Crossfire.
It probably would have been a collectible if they never predicted it to be a collectible. If the masses of people all think something will be valuable one day then it never will. How can something be rare and hard to find if everyone stored them away in mint condition?
 
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 12:34 PM
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I think they are drivers---best bang for the buck on the road, but not a money making investment like a Hemi Cuda, etc from back in the day. More like the Sunbeam Tiger from "Get Smart"---great for its time, but not the best car to put away---that was the only point I was making.
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The Xfire makes me think back to the 60's & the Sunbeam Tiger , That was a Sunbeam Alpine with a ford v8 shoe-horned in , So thats a Sunbeam with Ford running gear , it looked better than the same type of cars around at that time sounds great but will never sell for as much as a E-type ,Damiler Dart or an MG & that the draw back a two company car . The Xfire is a keeper but not a investment .
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Two comments on my baby, and I just had to comment. Both writers have an opinion that the Tiger is not particularly collectable. Here's the values on Andy's position (The values are from Vehicle Market Research, NADA, and Sports Car Magazine, respectively, and reflect a 1 or 2 car):

Tiger: $27-40k; $43-65k; $65-90k .
MGB: $12-17k; $12-26k; $12-20k .
MGA: $19-26k; $17-34k; $25-35k .
XKE: -------; $65-90K; $50-90k .
Daimler Dart: -------; --------; $28-35k .

On the investment scale Sports Car Magazine gives all cars a B save for the Dart, which only earned a C. Appreciation-wise, the magazine also noted that the Tiger held the best appreciation outlook and the highest appreciation lately of all the cars Andy lists. I have also been watching auction reports and sales, and while prices have been crashing in the market through this economic downturn, of the cars listed only the Tiger continues to show substantive appreciation. I can also say that when the Tiger is shown, there are invariably more people going over it than any other car there (could, admittedly, be a product of 4 Cobras, 9 Vettes, and 1 Tiger).

As to continued appreciation, I believe that the Tiger is solid. A V-8 in a 2 seater is irrepressible. It has a Shelby connection (he built the prototype). It is, believe it or not, eligible at Shelby events, Chrysler events (owned Sunbeam during production and there's a pentastar on the body), British events, sports car events, and Ford events. Contrary to the perception, I submit that Tigers are keepers.

It also appears that the posts sought to point out that two company cars don't do it. Hmmmmm. AC Cobra (Ford 260/289), Iso Grifo (Chevy 327), Facel Vega (assorted Chrysler hemis), Jensen Interceptor (Chrysler 383/440), Morgan Plus 8 (Buick V-8), Siata Barchetta Sport Spider (Crosley), Cunningham C3 (Chrysler 331), TVR (Ford 289), Marcos (Ford 4s and 6s), etc. Save for the Interceptor, the prices on any of these have risen geometrically.

As for two cents, although I would love to have one, the Daimler SP250(Dart) has got to be, simply, the ugliest 2 seater, if not car, ever made.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 03:24 PM
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i've been following this thread from to time and sincerely believe that only low mileage, mint/near mint original srt-6's will have any chance of future collectability.

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As for two cents, although I would love to have one, the Daimler SP250(Dart) has got to be, simply, the ugliest 2 seater, if not car, ever made.
lol. so true.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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[quote=musicnsurf]i've been following this thread from to time and sincerely believe that only low mileage, mint/near mint original srt-6's will have any chance of future collectability. You are wrong. I collect Crossfires now and I am not alone. There are a number of collectors on this forum. Gary with three that cost less than 1 Boxter.. looking for 4.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 10:48 PM
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you go gary.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 11:34 PM
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It's been an interesting thread, (hearing everybody's opinions and all). But it's all accidemic when you come right down to it. That is, if the "Tree Huggers" have their way.
In 20 or 30 years from now, we'll probably all be driving battery or solar powered "Smart Cars" that top out at 45 mph and have a 100 mile range.
Fossil fuel car will probably be outlawed, relegated only to museums, and vilified for very nearly bringing the human race to extinction.
My suggestion? Drive the wheels off of them, enjoy the heII out of them, and if per chance you still have one 20 years down the line...restore em.
 
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