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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 07:20 AM
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Default Lowered; cutting springs write up

I know there is a lot of write up that explain this, i just figured i would add one more for another reference.

i have a limited crossfire and i cut my limited stock springs.

REAR SPRINGS
1) jack up your car and put on jack stands
2) pull off tire
3) remove plastic cover on A-arm (two MM bolts)
4) put the floor jack under the A-arm and put Little tension on the spring
5) on the A-arm there are two bolts and nuts more torwards the rotor. these need to be removed. one holds the shock to the A-arm the other holds the rear tie rod (i wanna call it) to the A-arm. both of these bolts are going to get loose at a different height. so your going to need to higher and lower the jack for each bolt.
6) then with those 2 bolts out, keep the jack under the A-arm. then torwards the middle of the car and the end of the A-arm you will see the final bolt holding the A-arm to the car. with this bolt again its going to be at a certain height were the bolt i going to be easiest to get out. so upper and lower jack accordingly.
7) when removed slowly!! lower jack. the spring should pop out. same process for driver and passenger rear.
8) don't forget to take out the rubber pad the spring sits in on the upper coil (some times is comes out with the spring, some times not)
9) at this point you can do it now or after you cut the springs but your going to have to cut the shock rubber bushing in half.

CUTTING SPRINGS:
what i tried first was trying to use a saw saw with a new blade. did nothing. i recommend that if you don't have anything to cut it to go to a shop of something. i went to my local machine shop and they did them for a 6 pack of beer.

i heard and i cut from the top. so thats what i did. figured it was best cause the new cut metal will be some what protected by the rubber pad.

**paint the spring after cut so its protected from rust. especially the newly cut metal!

i cut my rear springs 10 inch measure around coils. just over 3/4s of the coil. one full coils measured about 12 inches. i got about an 1 1/2 inch drop. I'm level to the front now. I'm not going to do the fronts yet cause I'm going up in rims size soon.

Reinstall everything in reverse.
use jack to line up the bolts. all going to be at different heights again. make sure that the rubber pad is put back on the spring correctly and that the bottom of the springs is seated in the A-arm correctly. there is only one way to seat it so don't seat it wrong.

and for the front springs and more on the rear please visit this thread:
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ravaganza.html

Here are some pics from my installation:

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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 08:00 AM
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When I first lowrered my car, I left the control arm bolt at the center of the chassis connected and unbolted everything a the are near the wheel. Your way may be slightly easier. I cut one full spring at all four corners which have a very nice low stance. I have since switched to Voghtland springs. One thing that would make this work very easy and much safer would be the correct Mrecedes spring compressor. It would be nice if the club owned one and then let members check it out
 
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 08:06 AM
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Default Re: Lowered; cutting springs write up

I did like you Lantana. I unbolted the swaybar, camber arm and control arm at the wheel end. Next time I may try 725's way. I love the idea of a forum spring compressor.

Les
 
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 07:37 PM
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I took a look at my car when I had it on the lift at work last week in hopes of eventually cutting the springs...........but have abandoned it since I don't want to have to buy new adjustable arms for camber. But, if you have the M-B compressor tool(and a cut off wheel) you could just remove the lower plastic cover on the lower control arm and cut the spring(once compressed) on car and not have to remove anything else.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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Default Re: Lowered; cutting springs write up

I think 32 Crazy has a spring compressor. Maybe we can talk him into a loan/rental program. This job is so easy and quick with one.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 07:47 PM
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Default Re: Lowered; cutting springs write up

Thanks guys. I found my way real easy and real quick and real easy to reinstall.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 07:50 PM
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Default Re: Lowered; cutting springs write up

Originally Posted by LantanaTX
I think 32 Crazy has a spring compressor. Maybe we can talk him into a loan/rental program. This job is so easy and quick with one.
I figured that my way was really easy and real safe. No chance is ever havnt danger in the spring hurting nothing. Felt safe the hole time. And installation was just as easy n safe
 
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 09:10 PM
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Default Re: Lowered; cutting springs write up

the rears really don't need a compressor. it takes more effort to use the compressor than its worth. now the fronts are another issue altogether. no way i would ever do a spring on the front without my spring compressor
 
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by LantanaTX
I think 32 Crazy has a spring compressor. Maybe we can talk him into a loan/rental program. This job is so easy and quick with one.
Only necessary on the fronts (as Steve said) and after looking online at the miller tools compressors, they retail for $900 a piece and if someone with less than good intentions 'rented one' and never returned it, someone would be out a wad of cash. From what I understand, a more generic compressor can be had for much less, just never used one so not sure on quality. The Miller tools XF specific ones are VERY high quality.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LantanaTX
I cut one full spring at all four corners which have a very nice low stance. I have since switched to Voghtland springs.
When you made the switch, did you notice a big difference in the handling? If so, which spring appears to be stiffer? I've thought about getting the Vogtland springs ever since I've heard of them, but I don't want to lose spring rate...
 
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 02:53 PM
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Default Re: Lowered; cutting springs write up

Originally Posted by JHM2K
When you made the switch, did you notice a big difference in the handling? If so, which spring appears to be stiffer? I've thought about getting the Vogtland springs ever since I've heard of them, but I don't want to lose spring rate...
I know it does not directly answer your question, but I hope it adds to it - Les mentioned in another thread he went from Eibachs to cut SRTs and made up quite a few seconds per lap, so obviously Eibachs are not the way to go, but I would be interested to hear about the Vogtlands....
 
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Old Apr 29, 2011 | 05:53 AM
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Default Re: Lowered; cutting springs write up

I did exactly thay w my eibach pri springs....rode and handeled great for 2 yrs before i sold it
 
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Old Apr 29, 2011 | 11:58 AM
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Default Re: Lowered; cutting springs write up

the compressor tools sold on bay for around 200$ are the same as what i have and they work fine. very safe to handle the spring once its compressed . anybody local to my area is welcome to come use it but wouldn't really want to ship it because its not light and costs will outweigh the advantage . but as always my garage and tools are available to any who know how to use them.

my knowledge will cost beer though!!
 
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Old Apr 29, 2011 | 02:30 PM
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Default Re: Lowered; cutting springs write up

for the stiffest spring I would cut some SRT springs. The Voughtland springs are similar to Eibach springs except the Voughtland don't lower the back as much as the front which gives a slight rake to the car. the interesting thing is that the car seems to have very little understeer now which is great. I personally think my car would look a little better with more rear drop and I was thinking of using the thinest rear spring pad.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2011 | 09:38 PM
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Default Re: Lowered; cutting springs write up

Originally Posted by Crossfire725
I know there is a lot of write up that explain this, i just figured i would add one more for another reference.

i have a limited crossfire and i cut my limited stock springs.
I thought the stock springs on the limited are progressive. Someone with more knowledge chime in, but I would not cut a progressive spring.

Nice write-up.
 
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