Is your XF in storage?
We finally got some snow down here in Oklahoma! I drove the XF to work this morning at 5AM. You would think this car would be a little better in the snow/ice due to the original cost and being built in Germany, but not a chance. It is terrible! My wife's old 2006 Mustang GT had WAY better manners in the slush. The traction control on that car was spot on. Chrysler is a bit behind the times there. Still, I like driving it. Be safe all.
We finally got some snow down here in Oklahoma! I drove the XF to work this morning at 5AM. You would think this car would be a little better in the snow/ice due to the original cost and being built in Germany, but not a chance. It is terrible! My wife's old 2006 Mustang GT had WAY better manners in the slush. The traction control on that car was spot on. Chrysler is a bit behind the times there. Still, I like driving it. Be safe all.
Gunner because it comes from Germany, does not a"Kubelwagon" make. kublewagon - Yahoo! Search Results=
It's a sports car (or as some feel, a sports GT), and with that being said, it's never going to be the greatest car in the snow.
ANY car with wide tires and rear drive and this little weight isn't going to want to plow thru any snow of much depth.
Many here have found by installing "dedicated" winter tires that were taller and not as wide as the stock tires, and by adding about 100lbs of ballast in the trunk, the Crossfire can be made more user friendly in the winter.
But until somebody like "Rudy" comes up with a Mercedes 4matic system for our Crossfires, it's probably never going to be anybodys 1st. choice for winter driving.
I drive mine as often as possible and we had an extended driving season this fall. We finally have had some snow here in Colorado over the past week. The ice dam has started to build in front on my driveway. With that, I probably won't be driving it until that melts. I am hoping for warm days in January.
I drive mine as often as possible and we had an extended driving season this fall. We finally have had some snow here in Colorado over the past week. The ice dam has started to build in front on my driveway. With that, I probably won't be driving it until that melts. I am hoping for warm days in January.
The average temp in Pueblo is well above freezing even in the middle of January.
I'm in California for basically a month so mine is garaged back in MA.. First time storing a car and I don't have a winter vehicle yet so we'll see if it comes out or not
With the sun angle this time of year, if you have a north-facing driveway, the snow and ice is slow to melt until mid-February. The average high for Denver is 40+ this time of year, but the past week has been below freezing. It appears that there may be hope in 10 days...
Gunner because it comes from Germany, does not a"Kubelwagon" make. kublewagon - Yahoo! Search Results=
It's a sports car (or as some feel, a sports GT), and with that being said, it's never going to be the greatest car in the snow.
ANY car with wide tires and rear drive and this little weight isn't going to want to plow thru any snow of much depth.
Many here have found by installing "dedicated" winter tires that were taller and not as wide as the stock tires, and by adding about 100lbs of ballast in the trunk, the Crossfire can be made more user friendly in the winter.
But until somebody like "Rudy" comes up with a Mercedes 4matic system for our Crossfires, it's probably never going to be anybodys 1st. choice for winter driving.
It's a sports car (or as some feel, a sports GT), and with that being said, it's never going to be the greatest car in the snow.
ANY car with wide tires and rear drive and this little weight isn't going to want to plow thru any snow of much depth.
Many here have found by installing "dedicated" winter tires that were taller and not as wide as the stock tires, and by adding about 100lbs of ballast in the trunk, the Crossfire can be made more user friendly in the winter.
But until somebody like "Rudy" comes up with a Mercedes 4matic system for our Crossfires, it's probably never going to be anybodys 1st. choice for winter driving.
I get that, but why couldn't they have at least made it as good as a Ford Mustang's traction control??? I mean we are not talking about a highend car...just a Mustang!?! Just hard to believe a $20K new Ford car got it right and a $50K Chrysler/Mercedes couldn't, lol. And that figure was for the ford new. It was only 1 year newer than my XF. Oh well, it is what it is I guess. Even Ford has to win a point now and then on the ole XF, haha
What Mustang are you comparing to? A current generation Mustang GT coupe weighs around 3,600 lbs. A Crossfire SRT6 coupe weighs around 3,200 lbs. The Crossfire or any sports car will suck in snow and ice with summer tires. Put some narrower Blizzaks on the SRT6 and it would do fine as long as the snow wasn't too deep. It has far less to do with stability control than proper tires. Electronic nannies can only work within the limits of available traction.
No, I take them both out regularly. My rationale being that the black one will always have low miles because that's my back-up 6 in case the graphite encounters a looney on the freeway (or anywhere, for that matter). Just drove the graphite to my brother's place for Christmas in SF, about a 400 round trip. It performed flawlessly (just enough mileage to break in that new Bosch IC pump).
I replaced the black one's IC pump first and haven't had any problems (about 50 miles ago). Say what you will about different pumps, that plug-n-play aspect is really convenient. Additionally, our state's central valley tends to be hot in the summer and cool-ish at night, so as long as you keep them maintained/garaged, you can drive them year round.
For driving in the snow you need good winter tires on all four corners, those all season tires excel at nothing in particular.
In Canada when some snow falls in states where it hardly ever snows, they set the news video to slow music and we watch the attempts to drive in the snow, hilarious. Mind you it takes a good snowfall here to wise up the idiots. You can tell the idiots in 4WD vehicles as they are farther into the fields and ditches.
In Canada when some snow falls in states where it hardly ever snows, they set the news video to slow music and we watch the attempts to drive in the snow, hilarious. Mind you it takes a good snowfall here to wise up the idiots. You can tell the idiots in 4WD vehicles as they are farther into the fields and ditches.
What Mustang are you comparing to? A current generation Mustang GT coupe weighs around 3,600 lbs. A Crossfire SRT6 coupe weighs around 3,200 lbs. The Crossfire or any sports car will suck in snow and ice with summer tires. Put some narrower Blizzaks on the SRT6 and it would do fine as long as the snow wasn't too deep. It has far less to do with stability control than proper tires. Electronic nannies can only work within the limits of available traction.
Living in Canada and having two cars, I park the Crossfire and keep the salt and ***** off it in the winter. It's my summer toy and it's kept clean. If I had only one car I would not have a Crossfire that's for sure.
They don't use salt on the roads in Boise?
On the way home from Yoga today, it was sunny, BEAUTIFUL and 44F.
I put my sweatshirt on below my coat, put my "PrintPak" cap on, and put the top down!
(Speeds below 45 all the way home helped - I DO live in the outlying Metro Atlanta area, after all!)
"Storage" for the winter... like HELL!
I put my sweatshirt on below my coat, put my "PrintPak" cap on, and put the top down!
(Speeds below 45 all the way home helped - I DO live in the outlying Metro Atlanta area, after all!)
"Storage" for the winter... like HELL!
Drive a mustang and then you will understand what I am saying. Say you get on a semi steep snowy hill. The XF will spin and may or may not get up due to traction of course. Yes, better tires would help, but you should not have to swap things out on a car to make them behave better...and you dont with better TC system. In the mustang, you could let the clutch out and floor the car. The TC will kick in and make the car hold steady at about 1000 rpms or less and it will "limp" up the hill. Sure its no 4x4 but on snow-covered roads, I never got it stuck. Even my wife drove around everywhere in it with no probs in the snow. It is seriously a way better system. And the best part is that when you shut it off...it is OFF. No bullshhhh nanny still working to keep you "safe", lol 
You do realize, our cars are "blessed" with "90's" Mercedes SLK technology......time marches on.
Last edited by +fireamx; Dec 30, 2012 at 04:49 PM.
Indiana her mines been stored since Nov !!! Mustang & Harley sleeping too !!!! I think the mustang will be the 1st one out been sleeping the longest !!! Cant afford to have the ins on all of them at once !!! So I rotate them out for play !!!! With the bike the older I get the warm it needs to be !!!!
Mustang good in snow ???? Not mine here is a true story for ya ! I store the mustang so one sunny cold day I decided to move it out of back garage to the front garage spring was almost here ! There was maybe an inch of snow on the ground ! I backed the mustang out & tried to go forward but the car would not move !!! I finally open the door looked out & asked my son whats wrong why wont the car move ??? He just started to laugh & said Dad there is an inch of snow !!! The mustang not use to being driven in snow !!! So now I wait til its clean & dry before I bring it out !!! Dont want to think how it would handle on the road when it wouldnt go 2 feet on an inch of snow !!!!
Indiana her mines been stored since Nov !!! Mustang & Harley sleeping too !!!! I think the mustang will be the 1st one out been sleeping the longest !!! Cant afford to have the ins on all of them at once !!! So I rotate them out for play !!!! With the bike the older I get the warm it needs to be !!!!



