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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 11:41 PM
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So I bought two new CAI but they install inside the engine bay . Also they install after the stock air box, should I remove the filter inside the stock airboxes but keep the airboxes and just use the short ram intake or is all I'm doing is replacing the plastic tubes ?
 
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 11:45 PM
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You need to remove the stock filters.. and use a gasket of your choice (silicone - foam rubber).. to seal the air boxes back. I'm trusting you may have gotten the recently shown kit from ebay? that does have the filters on the end of the tubes correct?
 
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 11:51 PM
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Ya exactly. What's a gasket?? (New to this)
 
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 11:58 PM
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You need to remove the stock filters.. and use a gasket of your choice (silicone - foam rubber).. to seal the air boxes back. I'm trusting you may have gotten the recently shown kit from ebay? that does have the filters on the end of the tubes correct?
Ya exactly. What's a gasket?? (New to this)
 
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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 11:09 AM
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The stock filters have a foam-rubber lip that seals the upper and lower half of the intake boxes together. Without them in, you'll have an open-air leak.

Easiest thing to do would be to cut the lip off of the filters as neatly as possible, keeping in mind that any piece that overhangs the seal trough will get sucked into the engine.

If that worries you, buy some low strength silicone sealant or RTV. Sometimes labeled as "liquid gasket". Place a bead of this in the trough, thick enough to create a perfect seal.

-It'll make opening the boxes a bit challenging later on, but no concern of sucking bits into the engine.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 10:06 PM
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The stock filters have a foam-rubber lip that seals the upper and lower half of the intake boxes together. Without them in, you'll have an open-air leak.

Easiest thing to do would be to cut the lip off of the filters as neatly as possible, keeping in mind that any piece that overhangs the seal trough will get sucked into the engine.

If that worries you, buy some low strength silicone sealant or RTV. Sometimes labeled as "liquid gasket". Place a bead of this in the trough, thick enough to create a perfect seal.

-It'll make opening the boxes a bit challenging later on, but no concern of sucking bits into the engine.
I just did it the airboxes had bolts on them , I took out the factory air filter, and just kept the shoe ram intakes on the end. It needed no type of cutting what so ever ? Did I do something wrong?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 10:10 PM
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So you didn't do anything to "seal" the box back.. just screwed it back down.. that will suck in unfiltered air.. not exactly a good thing..
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 10:25 PM
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So you didn't do anything to "seal" the box back.. just screwed it back down.. that will suck in unfiltered air.. not exactly a good thing..
Yikes , alright will pass by wal Mart and get some , so just reseal around the edges and I'll be ok? It wasn't sealed at all it came off rather easily , (I'm planning on getting the needswings intake system soon here so I should be fine right?)
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 10:29 PM
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Actually the edges of the filter were "trapped" in the little valley between the two.. sealing it off. "IF" you don't travel in any real dust.. and needswings is on the books in the next 30 days.. I would probably let it go.. it's been proven even the filter seal.. doesn't exactly make a tight seal..
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
Actually the edges of the filter were "trapped" in the little valley between the two.. sealing it off. "IF" you don't travel in any real dust.. and needswings is on the books in the next 30 days.. I would probably let it go.. it's been proven even the filter seal.. doesn't exactly make a tight seal..
I'd rather be safe than sorry , I will get the gasket. Do you have a n/a XFire as well? If so any suggestions on increasing hp and torque? I got the real crapy CAI and a super 44 flowmaster , removed the rear cats and increased my pipes size to 2 3/4 . Been looking around for a good ecu tune as well,
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
Actually the edges of the filter were "trapped" in the little valley between the two.. sealing it off. "IF" you don't travel in any real dust.. and needswings is on the books in the next 30 days.. I would probably let it go.. it's been proven even the filter seal.. doesn't exactly make a tight seal..
Rather play it safe , do U have a n/a XFire as well? If so do u have any ideas on gaining a bit of hp and torque ? Other than the crappy CAI I just installed , and a super 44 flowmaster that I installed after removing the rear cats and replacing the pipes to 2 3/4 pipes. Also have been looking into the eurocharged tuning kit that promises 20 hp increase .
Any suggestions ?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 11:05 PM
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You won't actually find a "gasket" per say... Silicon sealant or a foam weather strip is what you will nead. probably 1/4 to 3/8 range.. And these folks are the go - to for tunes..I have the NA.. did the tune..throttle body upgrade (68mm stock.. 74 mm upgrade)..and intake like your running.. definitely puts a little more giddy up in them. Wife got her a roadster towards the end of Summer.. totally stock.. I really didn't like driving it after being in mine. She finally decided she wanted whatever I had done to mine. Now it's fun in both! Oh.. "crappy intake".. flows more than stock setup.. LOL
One more note "up to 20 HP"... With Torque Pro I'm showing additional 11 HP.. but ironically it's in a different range so to say than stock. But whatever they do along with the HP increase it makes the car "feel" sportier.. :-)
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 11:12 PM
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If you are saving for a Needswings, I wouldn't have installed the filters you have now. As you have probably read already, you are now sucking up hot air into the intake. Your stock system was sucking up cooler air. K&N filters in your stock system would have gained you more than those cheap add on's. I know, they look high performance, but they aren't. Hot air is hot air. Get your Christmas $$$$$$ and give Rob at Needswings a call... As for sealing up the intake box, it's to keep moisture out as much as dust...
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by oledoc2u
If you are saving for a Needswings, I wouldn't have installed the filters you have now. As you have probably read already, you are now sucking up hot air into the intake. Your stock system was sucking up cooler air. K&N filters in your stock system would have gained you more than those cheap add on's. I know, they look high performance, but they aren't. Hot air is hot air. Get your Christmas $$$$$$ and give Rob at Needswings a call... As for sealing up the intake box, it's to keep moisture out as much as dust...
Have to disagree somewhat here Doc.. I've checked temps..(with Torque Pro) One HA intake on the drivers side and OEM on passenger.. gets you within a steady 15 degrees of ambient.. Running both sides "HA" gets temps right back in the stock setup range.. with less restrictions. I cant' slice that any way to be a "loose" over stock. Eventually I'm going to do away with the plastic heat sink and go to the MB covers hanging on the wall.. planning a fiberglass runner from the throttle body to the HA tubes.. Really thinking temps will get back to that 15 deg off ambient again.
 

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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 11:32 PM
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Put down the tools and back away from the car.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 11:34 PM
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Put down the tools and back away from the car.
Hey.. I think I used that line quite a while back..

Think there were a few explicative post that followed too..
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
You won't actually find a "gasket" per say... Silicon sealant or a foam weather strip is what you will nead. probably 1/4 to 3/8 range.. And these folks are the go - to for tunes..I have the NA.. did the tune..throttle body upgrade (68mm stock.. 74 mm upgrade)..and intake like your running.. definitely puts a little more giddy up in them. Wife got her a roadster towards the end of Summer.. totally stock.. I really didn't like driving it after being in mine. She finally decided she wanted whatever I had done to mine. Now it's fun in both! Oh.. "crappy intake".. flows more than stock setup.. LOL
One more note "up to 20 HP"... With Torque Pro I'm showing additional 11 HP.. but ironically it's in a different range so to say than stock. But whatever they do along with the HP increase it makes the car "feel" sportier.. :-)
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I know it's a dumb question but what a bout a turbo kit? I love close to tijuana and I cross the border almost every day (family bussiness and girlfriend lives down there) everything's cheaper , got my whole exhasut system with brand new flow master for 180 which is really good and sounds insane . And there are a few shops that specialize in turbo . Can the engine handle it or are these things out of question . I only ask because I can get this done for well under 500 $
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 11:38 PM
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I know it's a dumb question but what a bout a turbo kit? I love close to tijuana and I cross the border almost every day (family bussiness and girlfriend lives down there) everything's cheaper , got my whole exhasut system with brand new flow master for 180 which is really good and sounds insane . And there are a few shops that specialize in turbo . Can the engine handle it or are these things out of question . I only ask because I can get this done for well under 500 $
Click on the link below in red.. See you Thursday when you finish reading..
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 11:41 PM
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Click on the link below in red.. See you Thursday when you finish reading..
What link ?? can't find it!
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 11:44 PM
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What link ?? can't find it!
Okay let's try this.. find Turbo in the text below and click on it..
 
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