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Old Dec 20, 2017 | 07:25 AM
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Repeated SKREEM failure?

2005 SRT-6 with 68k miles.
No recent modification, service, problems. Runs well with no issues, no check engine lights. The last things I did were recover the headliner last summer, oil change in fall.
Crank position sensor went in 2013 and was changed to OEM.
RCM failed in 2014 and was replaced. I actually just swapped to another known good one as well, no difference.
SKREEM failed 09/2015 and was replaced by dealer.
The car has some bolt ons and custom tune from eurocharged, has been running great that way for years. Passes smog fine.

Today it has classic SKREEM symptoms - three starts/dies, won't crank after this. Disconnect battery and this cycle repeats.

The key fobs all function to unlock the doors, have new batteries.

I can't believe this thing could fail again after two years! I ordered one from needswings since that'll save me a lot of time trying to get the dealer to replace it, but is it tough to do yourself? Thanks guys.
 

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Old Dec 20, 2017 | 09:34 AM
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Odd it would fail again, and it could be a number of things.

BUT, I'd be looking at battery/alternator wiring integrity. ANY voltage spikes or disturbances can cause ANY module to fail. A weak battery, a year ago, took out my airbag module one evening as I put the top up without the engine running (on a five year old battery - I preach about changing the battery at four years, then don't do it myself. Just damn. See why I wear a dunce cap?)

Keep in mind that the jumper from block to chassis is known to fail, it is located (on some/most cars) just below the power steering pump and again, runs from block to chassis. One way out is to bypass it like they did in the 60's and 70s. Get you one of the battery cables pictured below.

Remove old battery ground cable, save the chassis bolt, but throww the old cable away.
Put a large lug on the SMALL wire and fasten it to chassis with the bolt you saved.
Connect terminal to battery.
Now, run the heavy lead to the block, use an alternator bolt or, better yet, use one of the heavy bolts on the bell housing at the back of the engine block.

You have no circumvented the original, stupid, engine ground return.

I believe it was JAMES1549 that came up with the idea of the bolt at the back of the engine. I used an alternator bolt on my Graphite years ago....
 
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Old Dec 20, 2017 | 10:23 AM
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I believe it was JAMES1549 that came up with the idea of the bolt at the back of the engine. I used an alternator bolt on my Graphite years ago....
yes, it was. I used that method and it makes for a clean installation.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2017 | 02:42 PM
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Thanks guys, I'll check the wiring. Battery is 2 years old, replaced when RCM failed. Could be bad I guess! I hate electrical issues in my car like I hate plumbing in my house.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2018 | 11:23 PM
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Where Can I purchase one of these? I need to replace my SKREEM module and replacing this cable might be a good idea.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 12:16 AM
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I guess these are fairly easy to find. No need to respond. Btw, by “small wire” do you mean the wire with the yellow cap?
 
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by pizzaguy

Put a large lug on the SMALL wire and fasten it to chassis with the bolt you saved.
Connect terminal to battery.
Now, run the heavy lead to the block, use an alternator bolt or, better yet, use one of the heavy bolts on the bell housing at the back of the engine block.

You have no circumvented the original, stupid, engine ground return.

I believe it was JAMES1549 that came up with the idea of the bolt at the back of the engine. I used an alternator bolt on my Graphite years ago....
With all the sparking that goes on when you connect the ground I would suggest that the connection to the engine grounding point be made before connecting the cable to the battery terminal, the sparks are from on and off power to whatever is live all the time and that cannot be good for electronics.
I try to avoid sparks by rapidly connecting the cable to the battery terminal, but with a nut or bolt attaching the grounding terminal to the engine or whatever, the sparking will continue until the connection is tight. The connection to the tapered terminal is practically instantaneous if done correctly.
 

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Old Feb 2, 2018 | 05:04 PM
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To follow up on this post, my SKREEM did fail again after 2.5 years. The new one from needswings arrived in about a week and I was able to install it in about 90 mins start to finish taking my time.

I'm now considering buying another module for backup...
 
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Old Feb 2, 2018 | 08:13 PM
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Dave, I understand what you are saying, BUT you should try to avoid sparks at the battery when ever possible, you know why. Therefore I would make the last connection on the engine...

James


Originally Posted by onehundred80

I try to avoid sparks by rapidly connecting the cable to the battery terminal, but with a nut or bolt attaching the grounding terminal to the engine or whatever, the sparking will continue until the connection is tight. The connection to the tapered terminal is practically instantaneous if done correctly.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2018 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by James1549
Dave, I understand what you are saying, BUT you should try to avoid sparks at the battery when ever possible, you know why. Therefore I would make the last connection on the engine...

James
There are a thousand posts here on this forum about connecting/disconnecting the negative battery terminal and not one except yours proposes to attach/detach the other end of the cable first/last. I have done it for years and not once has there been an explosion. Sparks inside the battery would be a real danger but not at the terminal.
 
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