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Gas Crisis in the Late 70's

Old Jun 12, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by kurtisberry
And Franc, nice truck. I sold my 96 F150 three years ago because it got 12 MPG. It was the perfect vehicle except for the mileage. Are you happy with your mileage? Are you happy to be part of the problem, getting 45% of the mileage your dad's caddy got?
You really need to chill. I get 20 to 21 MPG on a 6,600 lb chasis that makes me a living. Yeah I'm happy with the truck.

I'm not happy paying $ 4.50 per Gal for fuel because Ecomaniacs won't let us puch a hole in the ground HERE in the USA.

I drove a Susuki 185 for three years 40 miles each way, even in winter, to help save the planet. Like riding a chain saw but got 42 MPG.
I drove a K car that got 36 MPG for 225 M miles to help save the planet.
I drove a 1986 Benz diesel that got 27 MPG for 10 years, to help save the planet.
My House is super insulated and uses a Tome wall to assist cooling and an attached greenhouse to assist heating. I compost most, if not all, my organic refuse. To help save the planet.
I garden organically, have since I was a child. To help save the planet.

My treat to myself was a sports car that some say is "underpowered," but gets 27.5 MPG...to help save the planet.

get off my back.

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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mediacritic
Probably far more than half. Bush's approval rating is around 24%. About 3/4 of the country knows he sucks.

Last I heard Congress was at 17%. Your point?

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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Brent
Economy wise things started to fall apart after the Dems took control of the House and Senate. But I'm sure it's just a coincidence.
Of course. Things were going so well under full Republican control. The GOP must have been overjoyed that the Dems got a slight majority in 2006 so they could shift the blame for six years of corruption.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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Economy wise things started to fall apart after the Dems took control of the House and Senate. But I'm sure it's just a coincidence.
Hey Brent,
How much were you paying for gas in 2006 when Nancy Pilosi said if they got into power they would "fix it?"

Around here we were paying $2.29 per Gallon and Bread was $ $1.89 a loaf.
Now gas is $ 4.05 per gal and that same bread; $3.09.

I so glad they made it better or was it, as you said, a coincidence.


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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
Last I heard Congress was at 17%. Your point?

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I made my point. Didn't you get it?
 
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
Hey Brent,
How much were you paying for gas in 2006 when Nancy Pilosi said if they got into power they would "fix it?"
How much were you paying before Bush took power? About 1.65/gal.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
I'm not happy paying $ 4.50 per Gal for fuel because Ecomaniacs won't let us puch a hole in the ground HERE in the USA.
LOL! Damn them. Those tree huggers are the cause of our misery.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mediacritic
I made my point. Didn't you get it?
When President Clinton was gettin off in the Oval office with an intern
I didn't

when Blackhawk down was happening and he was to busy to make a decision,
I didn't

When President Clinton threw half our cruise missle inventory blindly at a mountain valley in Afghanistan, and missed
I didn't

when President Carter Gave a drug dealing despot the Panama canal
I didn't

I never posted ,published or depicted them as anything but the President.

Their titles were President Carter, President Clinton and his current name is President Bush. And depicting him in a doctored photo,such as you have, is desrespectful at the very least. It certainly does not validate your point.

For 7 years now we have not seen a terrorist attack on the US. We have not had a Cole. We have not had a Marine barracks bombing. In fact, most US facilities and interests have been safe from harm. This during a declared and open Jahad against any and all Americans by the terrorists.

In the month of May we had 19 servicemen killed in all of Irac. Last year in Chicago we had an average of 5 murders per day. Los Angeles was nearly the same. Our own Capital had a poorer record. Who runs those cities?

And yet you mock our President.

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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mediacritic
HA!!! With very few exceptions, the Dems are spineless do-nothings. The only danger they pose is in not being a real opposition party. There's nothing "socialist" about them.
Well the Invertebrate party managed to keep an offshore drilling ban in effect. Now that's doing something.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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How much were you paying before Bush took power? About 1.65/gal.
I was paying a lot less than that when President Clinton was Elected.

You gotta' do better than that.
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
When President Clinton was gettin off in the Oval office with an intern
I didn't

when Blackhawk down was happening and he was to busy to make a decision,
I didn't

When President Clinton threw half our cruise missle inventory blindly at a mountain valley in Afghanistan, and missed
I didn't

when President Carter Gave a drug dealing despot the Panama canal
I didn't

I never posted ,published or depicted them as anything but the President.

Their titles were President Carter, President Clinton and his current name is President Bush. And depicting him in a doctored photo,such as you have, is desrespectful at the very least.

For 7 years now we have not seen a terrorist attack on the US. We have not had a Cole. We have not had a Marine barracks bombing. In fact, most US facilities and interests have been safe from harm. This during a declared and open Jehad against any and all Americans by the terrorists.

In the month of May we had 19 servicemen killed in all of Irac. Last year in Chicago we had an average of 5 murders per day. Los Angeles was nearly the same. Our own Capital had a poorer record. Who runs those cities?

And yet you mock our President.

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Oh oh. You're going in so many directions here... "spaghetti at the wall", so to speak.

I have no qualms about mocking the dirtiest little ******* to ever disgrace the White House.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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I was paying a lot less than that when President Clinton was Elected.

You gotta' do better than that.
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So you're saying the price of oil fell after Clinton got in office.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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So you're saying the price of oil fell after Clinton got in office.
I really enjoy a heated intelligent debate.

Since all you have to make your case are insults .

We're done

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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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The only insult I've used was against Bush. It was auto-censored, but it still felt good. He doesn't deserve respect. He deserves a trial.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by kurtisberry
Just a reply to popeye's post.

"If you were fighting nuclear you are partly responsible for the jam everyone is in now. EcoManiacs are being shielded by the press for the moment, but eventually everyone will recognize that they are paying through the nose for gas because of the EPA and the Sierra Club kind of folk."

Actually it is because of the Sierra Clubs or the world that there is an EPA and CAFE, although weakened by the oil interests. Otherwise we would have been here ten years ago.

Proud to be an "EcoManiac". Popeye, how is the air and water quality in your area? How is the weather? Getting warm and stormy? I hear the everglades are drying up, marvelous work or the Corp of Army Engineers, we fought those idiots too.
I can see you are a zealot, so I will consider the source and ignore your ignorant raving.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 05:28 AM
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Is MediaCritic a boy or a girl? I'm looking at that picture and can't decide.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill F
I traded my 1973 Impala for a 1974 Vega because it cost $14.00 to fill the tank. That was to fill the Impala tank.
What was your rating? I'm X-USCG RM1 ... sailed merchie for some years...
 
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by kurtisberry
This crisis is permanent, unlike the 70's. We, those of us in the US, use too much oil. If you saw Krammer on the Today show this morning you know we have to change. We use 25 barrels per capita. India and China use 2 and are trying to move up to 4. We use 25% of the worlds oil for 5% of the population.

I'm looking at a scooter, and parking the Crossfire for the summer.

My son-in-law bought a Yamaha R6, which will smoke a Crossfire in any category, yet gets 56 MPG.
Back to economics 101. You cannot conserve your way to prosperity and a better living standard. Every year there are more people needing more stuff so there must be an inexpensive source of energy to fuel any economy. The idea that a curly lightbulb is going to save the world is simple minded. We have no choice right now, there is no alternative to cheap oil. We must find more sources domestically, be it oil, coal to oil, tar sands in Montana or wherever it is available. Then, we will have an economy that can invest in new technology and new infrastructure and people will have the money to buy these new technology cars for the furutre. This will take several generations to changeover. The idea that we can just use less and make it into the 22nd century without living in mud huts is really dumb...with all due respect.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 06:19 AM
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Popeye,

SSCM (CS probably when you were in) retired 1987. I spent 6 years active and 2 Reserve in the USN (Belknap, NAF Cam Ranh Bay RVN and Lexington) prior to USCG. Served on the Kaw, Durable and at AIRSTA Traverse City, TRACEN Petaluma twice, CGHQ in DC, Station Ponce Inlet and the Academy. I moved to Schertz, TX 2007 from Ocala, my daughter still lives in Ocala.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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We don't need a government subsidized ETOH program that forces bad fuel economy at high prices.

Ingenius Americans have already solved the problem on an individual basis.

A recent study conducted by Harvard University, found that the average American walks about 900 miles per year.
Another study by the American Medical Association found that the average American drinks 22 gallons of alcohol a year.
This means on average, Americans get about 41 miles to the gallon.

Kind of makes me proud to be an American


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