Running Lights
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Re: Running Lights
Originally Posted by SparkieSRT6
Hi Bob,
There was no intent to insult you. Onehundred80 was stating factual information: My car is a US car. It now has the DRL via a swap of the US switch with a Cdn switch which I did myself. There is no computer programing required.
There was no intent to insult you. Onehundred80 was stating factual information: My car is a US car. It now has the DRL via a swap of the US switch with a Cdn switch which I did myself. There is no computer programing required.
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From: Hooterville
Re: Running Lights
Originally Posted by onehundred80
I suspect his info came from a dealer that charged for the 'computer' time to help validate the high labor charges. Let alone the $540 for an 'automatic' switch.
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Re: Running Lights
Originally Posted by onehundred80
I suspect his info came from a dealer that charged for the 'computer' time to help validate the high labor charges. Let alone the $540 for an 'automatic' switch.
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Re: Running Lights
Originally Posted by corfire
Now now, your going to ruin the whole thing and the Forum also?
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Re: Running Lights
Originally Posted by onehundred80
He has a US switch and Rusty wants to convert to fogs as DRL's, so they should get together and make a deal. I would guess the change would be easier with a US switch.
Last edited by SparkieSRT6; Mar 20, 2011 at 08:34 PM.
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Re: Running Lights
Originally Posted by Bob D
Haven't been on this site for awhile.
some info: an american car with a standard transmission does not have the capabilities of turning on daytime running lights as we are required to have (Toronto). I had to buy an automatic switch $540US and have them turned on with the computer.
That said: I have an american headlight switch for sale..reasonable
let me know
Bob D
some info: an american car with a standard transmission does not have the capabilities of turning on daytime running lights as we are required to have (Toronto). I had to buy an automatic switch $540US and have them turned on with the computer.
That said: I have an american headlight switch for sale..reasonable
let me know
Bob D
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Re: Running Lights
Ok, time to put this to bed.
I believe in quality of information, not quantity.
I've been busy all week but have done some further investigation so I'll modify my initial entry after which I have no further interest in this matter:
I've used red highlighted to continue the info.
Thought I'd take a moment and introduce myself. I
joined up last week and have really enjoyed some of the threads.
I'm middle aged, live in Brampton, work in Mississauga, run a Data Centre.
Saw a Crossfire Coupe a couple of years ago and fell in love, but as it's a summer car, it had to be a Roadster. What can I say?
Flew down and picked up my 2005 black roadster, cedar interior, 6 spd in Virginia a week + ago (70F) and drove it back mainly on cruise. What a ride. Love the American divided highways. It was pure pleasure until I crossed and hit the QEW. Then I had to DRIVE!
Did the Import process myself, very easy to do, through American and Canadian Customs in 1/2 hour.
As to the bumpers, 8 km/hour is 5 mph and I didn't have to change anything.
My only cost at Canadian Tire, the RIV approved inspection site was to have the headlight module replaced with their generic module because the standard tranny comes with a U.S.A. headlight switch while the automatic comes with DRL. Cost parts and labout $243.00. On the automatic the Dealer just logs in and changes the country code.
After 3 weeks of driving with lighting problems, I returned to CT and they removed their switch and advised I'd have to go and buy an automatic headlight switch, which I accepted as fact. Spoke to my 25year service manager at Brampton Chrysler and he wasn't sure so I ordered one through Transitowne in Buffalo for $430 + installation specifiying I needed drls, drove down and they installed it. Problem solved.
I logged in here recently because I wanted to check on the same situation for a 2008 which I'm going to buy and ended up here. I should have done this homework earlier,
wouldn't have saved me any money but would have had all the info.
So, my homework: Spoke to 2 Chrysler service managers whom I deal with and 2 CT service managers who used to work for Chrysler. Got similar but different answers to the effect that if they couldn't turn on the drls CT had a switch<lol> and Chrysler would figure it out. While we're on this, I will clarify the computer. I run a Data Centre. To me, any device, phone or otherwise that connects to something electronic, I refer to as a computer, some of you call it the OEM Tool, same thing, it is used to access and change the country code, not rocket science, just terminology.
So to continue, the original CT manager was right and wrong. I needed a new switch but it wasn't a standard or automatic issue, IT WAS A PART NUMBER for the headlight switch.
Spoke to my Chrysler parts dept whom I deal with.
For those of your who did the same homework, you would have found that there are 2 part #s for a 2005 and 2 part #s for a 2008.
The difference for a 2005:
#5098638AA is for an American car without DRL and they can't be turned on, OEM Tool or otherwise.
#5098639AA is for a Canadian car and the DRL can be turned on or maybe off, I don't know.
For a 2008, same part #s but also 6 others for exports to different countries for both years.
This also explained the occasional reference to export in the wiring manuals which I have and you'll see reference to the relays some of you have discussed.
I'm sure some of you have the manuals but I'll add a link for those who haven't found them.
Manuals:
Crossfire Repair Manuals
Regards,
Quality, not quantity.
Bob D
[quote=onehundred80]Whoa there Sunshine, I did some homework and I have found the cause of your misinformation. It's yourself.
Dated 06/09/2008
[quote=Bob D]
Thought I'd take a moment and introduce myself. I
joined up last week and have really enjoyed some of the threads.
I'm middle aged, live in Brampton, work in Mississauga, run a Data Centre.
Saw a Crossfire Coupe a couple of years ago and fell in love, but as it's a summer car, it had to be a Roadster. What can I say?
Flew down and picked up my 2005 black roadster, cedar interior, 6 spd in Virginia a week + ago (70F) and drove it back mainly on cruise. What a ride. Love the American divided highways. It was pure pleasure until I crossed and hit the QEW. Then I had to DRIVE!
Did the Import process myself, very easy to do, through American and Canadian Customs in 1/2 hour.
As to the bumpers, 8 km/hour is 5 mph and I didn't have to change anything.
My only cost at Canadian Tire, the RIV approved inspection site was to have the headlight module replaced with their generic module because the standard tranny comes with a U.S.A. headlight switch while the automatic comes with DRL. Cost parts and labout $243.00. On the automatic the Dealer just logs in and changes the country code.
As to warranty, I'm an hour from the border and had it transferred to a Buffalo ZIP code, spoke to a Buffalo Chrysler dealer who stated, It didn't matter where you live or have it registered. If you're over in the States, any dealer will service you under warranty. Cost $125 to transfer.
You can buy a bumper to bumper in Canada for $2500.00 and get it serviced anywhere you wish.
The double ** for the bumper on the import list is deceiving. I spoke to the RIV office and got the run around because they didn't know that the U.S. 5mph is equivalent to 8 kmh in Canada. Just ask at your local Canadian Tire first.
Good luck.
Bob D
I believe in quality of information, not quantity.
I've been busy all week but have done some further investigation so I'll modify my initial entry after which I have no further interest in this matter:
I've used red highlighted to continue the info.
Thought I'd take a moment and introduce myself. I
joined up last week and have really enjoyed some of the threads.
I'm middle aged, live in Brampton, work in Mississauga, run a Data Centre.
Saw a Crossfire Coupe a couple of years ago and fell in love, but as it's a summer car, it had to be a Roadster. What can I say?
Flew down and picked up my 2005 black roadster, cedar interior, 6 spd in Virginia a week + ago (70F) and drove it back mainly on cruise. What a ride. Love the American divided highways. It was pure pleasure until I crossed and hit the QEW. Then I had to DRIVE!
Did the Import process myself, very easy to do, through American and Canadian Customs in 1/2 hour.
As to the bumpers, 8 km/hour is 5 mph and I didn't have to change anything.
My only cost at Canadian Tire, the RIV approved inspection site was to have the headlight module replaced with their generic module because the standard tranny comes with a U.S.A. headlight switch while the automatic comes with DRL. Cost parts and labout $243.00. On the automatic the Dealer just logs in and changes the country code.
After 3 weeks of driving with lighting problems, I returned to CT and they removed their switch and advised I'd have to go and buy an automatic headlight switch, which I accepted as fact. Spoke to my 25year service manager at Brampton Chrysler and he wasn't sure so I ordered one through Transitowne in Buffalo for $430 + installation specifiying I needed drls, drove down and they installed it. Problem solved.
I logged in here recently because I wanted to check on the same situation for a 2008 which I'm going to buy and ended up here. I should have done this homework earlier,
wouldn't have saved me any money but would have had all the info.
So, my homework: Spoke to 2 Chrysler service managers whom I deal with and 2 CT service managers who used to work for Chrysler. Got similar but different answers to the effect that if they couldn't turn on the drls CT had a switch<lol> and Chrysler would figure it out. While we're on this, I will clarify the computer. I run a Data Centre. To me, any device, phone or otherwise that connects to something electronic, I refer to as a computer, some of you call it the OEM Tool, same thing, it is used to access and change the country code, not rocket science, just terminology.
So to continue, the original CT manager was right and wrong. I needed a new switch but it wasn't a standard or automatic issue, IT WAS A PART NUMBER for the headlight switch.
Spoke to my Chrysler parts dept whom I deal with.
For those of your who did the same homework, you would have found that there are 2 part #s for a 2005 and 2 part #s for a 2008.
The difference for a 2005:
#5098638AA is for an American car without DRL and they can't be turned on, OEM Tool or otherwise.
#5098639AA is for a Canadian car and the DRL can be turned on or maybe off, I don't know.
For a 2008, same part #s but also 6 others for exports to different countries for both years.
This also explained the occasional reference to export in the wiring manuals which I have and you'll see reference to the relays some of you have discussed.
I'm sure some of you have the manuals but I'll add a link for those who haven't found them.
Manuals:
Crossfire Repair Manuals
Regards,
Quality, not quantity.
Bob D
[quote=onehundred80]Whoa there Sunshine, I did some homework and I have found the cause of your misinformation. It's yourself.
Dated 06/09/2008
[quote=Bob D]
Thought I'd take a moment and introduce myself. I
joined up last week and have really enjoyed some of the threads.
I'm middle aged, live in Brampton, work in Mississauga, run a Data Centre.
Saw a Crossfire Coupe a couple of years ago and fell in love, but as it's a summer car, it had to be a Roadster. What can I say?
Flew down and picked up my 2005 black roadster, cedar interior, 6 spd in Virginia a week + ago (70F) and drove it back mainly on cruise. What a ride. Love the American divided highways. It was pure pleasure until I crossed and hit the QEW. Then I had to DRIVE!
Did the Import process myself, very easy to do, through American and Canadian Customs in 1/2 hour.
As to the bumpers, 8 km/hour is 5 mph and I didn't have to change anything.
My only cost at Canadian Tire, the RIV approved inspection site was to have the headlight module replaced with their generic module because the standard tranny comes with a U.S.A. headlight switch while the automatic comes with DRL. Cost parts and labout $243.00. On the automatic the Dealer just logs in and changes the country code.
As to warranty, I'm an hour from the border and had it transferred to a Buffalo ZIP code, spoke to a Buffalo Chrysler dealer who stated, It didn't matter where you live or have it registered. If you're over in the States, any dealer will service you under warranty. Cost $125 to transfer.
You can buy a bumper to bumper in Canada for $2500.00 and get it serviced anywhere you wish.
The double ** for the bumper on the import list is deceiving. I spoke to the RIV office and got the run around because they didn't know that the U.S. 5mph is equivalent to 8 kmh in Canada. Just ask at your local Canadian Tire first.
Good luck.
Bob D
Obviously your info is incorrect, and then you say that I am the type that ruins forums, my post count is quite high and the forum has managed to survive despite this high count - just.
Last edited by Bob D; Mar 23, 2011 at 10:25 PM.
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Re: Running Lights
Let's make this simple:
US Crossfires are not set up for DRL's.
Canadian Crossfires are set up for DRL's.
If a Canadian imports a US Crossfire apparently they need DRL's. They can buy and install an expensive Canadian style OEM headlight switch. Or they can install, or have someone install, a simple 30amp relay to turn on the low beam headlights and/or the fog lights when the ignition is turned on.
US Crossfires are not set up for DRL's.
Canadian Crossfires are set up for DRL's.
If a Canadian imports a US Crossfire apparently they need DRL's. They can buy and install an expensive Canadian style OEM headlight switch. Or they can install, or have someone install, a simple 30amp relay to turn on the low beam headlights and/or the fog lights when the ignition is turned on.
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From: Barrie
Re: Running Lights
[quote=Bob D]Ok, time to put this to bed.
I believe in quality of information, not quantity.
I've been busy all week but have done some further investigation so I'll modify my initial entry after which I have no further interest in this matter:
I've used red highlighted to continue the info.
Thought I'd take a moment and introduce myself. I
joined up last week and have really enjoyed some of the threads.
I'm middle aged, live in Brampton, work in Mississauga, run a Data Centre.
Saw a Crossfire Coupe a couple of years ago and fell in love, but as it's a summer car, it had to be a Roadster. What can I say?
Flew down and picked up my 2005 black roadster, cedar interior, 6 spd in Virginia a week + ago (70F) and drove it back mainly on cruise. What a ride. Love the American divided highways. It was pure pleasure until I crossed and hit the QEW. Then I had to DRIVE!
Did the Import process myself, very easy to do, through American and Canadian Customs in 1/2 hour.
As to the bumpers, 8 km/hour is 5 mph and I didn't have to change anything.
My only cost at Canadian Tire, the RIV approved inspection site was to have the headlight module replaced with their generic module because the standard tranny comes with a U.S.A. headlight switch while the automatic comes with DRL. Cost parts and labout $243.00. On the automatic the Dealer just logs in and changes the country code.
After 3 weeks of driving with lighting problems, I returned to CT and they removed their switch and advised I'd have to go and buy an automatic headlight switch, which I accepted as fact. Spoke to my 25year service manager at Brampton Chrysler and he wasn't sure so I ordered one through Transitowne in Buffalo for $430 + installation specifiying I needed drls, drove down and they installed it. Problem solved.
I logged in here recently because I wanted to check on the same situation for a 2008 which I'm going to buy and ended up here. I should have done this homework earlier,
wouldn't have saved me any money but would have had all the info.
So, my homework: Spoke to 2 Chrysler service managers whom I deal with and 2 CT service managers who used to work for Chrysler. Got similar but different answers to the effect that if they couldn't turn on the drls CT had a switch<lol> and Chrysler would figure it out. While we're on this, I will clarify the computer. I run a Data Centre. To me, any device, phone or otherwise that connects to something electronic, I refer to as a computer, some of you call it the OEM Tool, same thing, it is used to access and change the country code, not rocket science, just terminology.
So to continue, the original CT manager was right and wrong. I needed a new switch but it wasn't a standard or automatic issue, IT WAS A PART NUMBER for the headlight switch.
Spoke to my Chrysler parts dept whom I deal with.
For those of your who did the same homework, you would have found that there are 2 part #s for a 2005 and 2 part #s for a 2008.
The difference for a 2005:
#5098638AA is for an American car without DRL and they can't be turned on, OEM Tool or otherwise.
#5098639AA is for a Canadian car and the DRL can be turned on or maybe off, I don't know.
For a 2008, same part #s but also 6 others for exports to different countries for both years.
This also explained the occasional reference to export in the wiring manuals which I have and you'll see reference to the relays some of you have discussed.
I'm sure some of you have the manuals but I'll add a link for those who haven't found them.
Manuals:
Crossfire Repair Manuals
Regards,
Quality, not quantity.
Bob D
[quote=onehundred80]Whoa there Sunshine, I did some homework and I have found the cause of your misinformation. It's yourself.
Dated 06/09/2008
[quote=Bob D]
Thought I'd take a moment and introduce myself. I
joined up last week and have really enjoyed some of the threads.
I'm middle aged, live in Brampton, work in Mississauga, run a Data Centre.
Saw a Crossfire Coupe a couple of years ago and fell in love, but as it's a summer car, it had to be a Roadster. What can I say?
Flew down and picked up my 2005 black roadster, cedar interior, 6 spd in Virginia a week + ago (70F) and drove it back mainly on cruise. What a ride. Love the American divided highways. It was pure pleasure until I crossed and hit the QEW. Then I had to DRIVE!
Did the Import process myself, very easy to do, through American and Canadian Customs in 1/2 hour.
As to the bumpers, 8 km/hour is 5 mph and I didn't have to change anything.
My only cost at Canadian Tire, the RIV approved inspection site was to have the headlight module replaced with their generic module because the standard tranny comes with a U.S.A. headlight switch while the automatic comes with DRL. Cost parts and labout $243.00. On the automatic the Dealer just logs in and changes the country code.
As to warranty, I'm an hour from the border and had it transferred to a Buffalo ZIP code, spoke to a Buffalo Chrysler dealer who stated, It didn't matter where you live or have it registered. If you're over in the States, any dealer will service you under warranty. Cost $125 to transfer.
You can buy a bumper to bumper in Canada for $2500.00 and get it serviced anywhere you wish.
The double ** for the bumper on the import list is deceiving. I spoke to the RIV office and got the run around because they didn't know that the U.S. 5mph is equivalent to 8 kmh in Canada. Just ask at your local Canadian Tire first.
Good luck.
Bob D[/quote
OK Bob I am really confussed...please contact me on j.schoenfeld@sympatico.ca to give me a coles notes version on what I can do to solve my problem, please....Rusty
I believe in quality of information, not quantity.
I've been busy all week but have done some further investigation so I'll modify my initial entry after which I have no further interest in this matter:
I've used red highlighted to continue the info.
Thought I'd take a moment and introduce myself. I
joined up last week and have really enjoyed some of the threads.
I'm middle aged, live in Brampton, work in Mississauga, run a Data Centre.
Saw a Crossfire Coupe a couple of years ago and fell in love, but as it's a summer car, it had to be a Roadster. What can I say?
Flew down and picked up my 2005 black roadster, cedar interior, 6 spd in Virginia a week + ago (70F) and drove it back mainly on cruise. What a ride. Love the American divided highways. It was pure pleasure until I crossed and hit the QEW. Then I had to DRIVE!
Did the Import process myself, very easy to do, through American and Canadian Customs in 1/2 hour.
As to the bumpers, 8 km/hour is 5 mph and I didn't have to change anything.
My only cost at Canadian Tire, the RIV approved inspection site was to have the headlight module replaced with their generic module because the standard tranny comes with a U.S.A. headlight switch while the automatic comes with DRL. Cost parts and labout $243.00. On the automatic the Dealer just logs in and changes the country code.
After 3 weeks of driving with lighting problems, I returned to CT and they removed their switch and advised I'd have to go and buy an automatic headlight switch, which I accepted as fact. Spoke to my 25year service manager at Brampton Chrysler and he wasn't sure so I ordered one through Transitowne in Buffalo for $430 + installation specifiying I needed drls, drove down and they installed it. Problem solved.
I logged in here recently because I wanted to check on the same situation for a 2008 which I'm going to buy and ended up here. I should have done this homework earlier,
wouldn't have saved me any money but would have had all the info.
So, my homework: Spoke to 2 Chrysler service managers whom I deal with and 2 CT service managers who used to work for Chrysler. Got similar but different answers to the effect that if they couldn't turn on the drls CT had a switch<lol> and Chrysler would figure it out. While we're on this, I will clarify the computer. I run a Data Centre. To me, any device, phone or otherwise that connects to something electronic, I refer to as a computer, some of you call it the OEM Tool, same thing, it is used to access and change the country code, not rocket science, just terminology.
So to continue, the original CT manager was right and wrong. I needed a new switch but it wasn't a standard or automatic issue, IT WAS A PART NUMBER for the headlight switch.
Spoke to my Chrysler parts dept whom I deal with.
For those of your who did the same homework, you would have found that there are 2 part #s for a 2005 and 2 part #s for a 2008.
The difference for a 2005:
#5098638AA is for an American car without DRL and they can't be turned on, OEM Tool or otherwise.
#5098639AA is for a Canadian car and the DRL can be turned on or maybe off, I don't know.
For a 2008, same part #s but also 6 others for exports to different countries for both years.
This also explained the occasional reference to export in the wiring manuals which I have and you'll see reference to the relays some of you have discussed.
I'm sure some of you have the manuals but I'll add a link for those who haven't found them.
Manuals:
Crossfire Repair Manuals
Regards,
Quality, not quantity.
Bob D
[quote=onehundred80]Whoa there Sunshine, I did some homework and I have found the cause of your misinformation. It's yourself.
Dated 06/09/2008
[quote=Bob D]
Thought I'd take a moment and introduce myself. I
joined up last week and have really enjoyed some of the threads.
I'm middle aged, live in Brampton, work in Mississauga, run a Data Centre.
Saw a Crossfire Coupe a couple of years ago and fell in love, but as it's a summer car, it had to be a Roadster. What can I say?
Flew down and picked up my 2005 black roadster, cedar interior, 6 spd in Virginia a week + ago (70F) and drove it back mainly on cruise. What a ride. Love the American divided highways. It was pure pleasure until I crossed and hit the QEW. Then I had to DRIVE!
Did the Import process myself, very easy to do, through American and Canadian Customs in 1/2 hour.
As to the bumpers, 8 km/hour is 5 mph and I didn't have to change anything.
My only cost at Canadian Tire, the RIV approved inspection site was to have the headlight module replaced with their generic module because the standard tranny comes with a U.S.A. headlight switch while the automatic comes with DRL. Cost parts and labout $243.00. On the automatic the Dealer just logs in and changes the country code.
As to warranty, I'm an hour from the border and had it transferred to a Buffalo ZIP code, spoke to a Buffalo Chrysler dealer who stated, It didn't matter where you live or have it registered. If you're over in the States, any dealer will service you under warranty. Cost $125 to transfer.
You can buy a bumper to bumper in Canada for $2500.00 and get it serviced anywhere you wish.
The double ** for the bumper on the import list is deceiving. I spoke to the RIV office and got the run around because they didn't know that the U.S. 5mph is equivalent to 8 kmh in Canada. Just ask at your local Canadian Tire first.
Good luck.
Bob D[/quote
OK Bob I am really confussed...please contact me on j.schoenfeld@sympatico.ca to give me a coles notes version on what I can do to solve my problem, please....Rusty
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Re: Running Lights
[quote=Bob D]Ok, time to put this to bed.
I believe in quality of information, not quantity.
I've been busy all week but have done some further investigation so I'll modify my initial entry after which I have no further interest in this matter:
I've used red highlighted to continue the info.
Thought I'd take a moment and introduce myself. I
joined up last week and have really enjoyed some of the threads.
I'm middle aged, live in Brampton, work in Mississauga, run a Data Centre.
Saw a Crossfire Coupe a couple of years ago and fell in love, but as it's a summer car, it had to be a Roadster. What can I say?
Flew down and picked up my 2005 black roadster, cedar interior, 6 spd in Virginia a week + ago (70F) and drove it back mainly on cruise. What a ride. Love the American divided highways. It was pure pleasure until I crossed and hit the QEW. Then I had to DRIVE!
Did the Import process myself, very easy to do, through American and Canadian Customs in 1/2 hour.
As to the bumpers, 8 km/hour is 5 mph and I didn't have to change anything.
My only cost at Canadian Tire, the RIV approved inspection site was to have the headlight module replaced with their generic module because the standard tranny comes with a U.S.A. headlight switch while the automatic comes with DRL. Cost parts and labout $243.00. On the automatic the Dealer just logs in and changes the country code.
After 3 weeks of driving with lighting problems, I returned to CT and they removed their switch and advised I'd have to go and buy an automatic headlight switch, which I accepted as fact. Spoke to my 25year service manager at Brampton Chrysler and he wasn't sure so I ordered one through Transitowne in Buffalo for $430 + installation specifiying I needed drls, drove down and they installed it. Problem solved.
I logged in here recently because I wanted to check on the same situation for a 2008 which I'm going to buy and ended up here. I should have done this homework earlier,
wouldn't have saved me any money but would have had all the info.
So, my homework: Spoke to 2 Chrysler service managers whom I deal with and 2 CT service managers who used to work for Chrysler. Got similar but different answers to the effect that if they couldn't turn on the drls CT had a switch<lol> and Chrysler would figure it out. While we're on this, I will clarify the computer. I run a Data Centre. To me, any device, phone or otherwise that connects to something electronic, I refer to as a computer, some of you call it the OEM Tool, same thing, it is used to access and change the country code, not rocket science, just terminology.
So to continue, the original CT manager was right and wrong. I needed a new switch but it wasn't a standard or automatic issue, IT WAS A PART NUMBER for the headlight switch.
Spoke to my Chrysler parts dept whom I deal with.
For those of your who did the same homework, you would have found that there are 2 part #s for a 2005 and 2 part #s for a 2008.
The difference for a 2005:
#5098638AA is for an American car without DRL and they can't be turned on, OEM Tool or otherwise.
#5098639AA is for a Canadian car and the DRL can be turned on or maybe off, I don't know.
For a 2008, same part #s but also 6 others for exports to different countries for both years.
This also explained the occasional reference to export in the wiring manuals which I have and you'll see reference to the relays some of you have discussed.
I'm sure some of you have the manuals but I'll add a link for those who haven't found them.
Manuals:
Crossfire Repair Manuals
Regards,
Quality, not quantity.
Bob D
[quote=onehundred80]Whoa there Sunshine, I did some homework and I have found the cause of your misinformation. It's yourself.
Dated 06/09/2008
Thank God you showed up to put us all straight on this matter! Where were you when I needed you? Could you tell me the meaning of life please?
I believe in quality of information, not quantity.
I've been busy all week but have done some further investigation so I'll modify my initial entry after which I have no further interest in this matter:
I've used red highlighted to continue the info.
Thought I'd take a moment and introduce myself. I
joined up last week and have really enjoyed some of the threads.
I'm middle aged, live in Brampton, work in Mississauga, run a Data Centre.
Saw a Crossfire Coupe a couple of years ago and fell in love, but as it's a summer car, it had to be a Roadster. What can I say?
Flew down and picked up my 2005 black roadster, cedar interior, 6 spd in Virginia a week + ago (70F) and drove it back mainly on cruise. What a ride. Love the American divided highways. It was pure pleasure until I crossed and hit the QEW. Then I had to DRIVE!
Did the Import process myself, very easy to do, through American and Canadian Customs in 1/2 hour.
As to the bumpers, 8 km/hour is 5 mph and I didn't have to change anything.
My only cost at Canadian Tire, the RIV approved inspection site was to have the headlight module replaced with their generic module because the standard tranny comes with a U.S.A. headlight switch while the automatic comes with DRL. Cost parts and labout $243.00. On the automatic the Dealer just logs in and changes the country code.
After 3 weeks of driving with lighting problems, I returned to CT and they removed their switch and advised I'd have to go and buy an automatic headlight switch, which I accepted as fact. Spoke to my 25year service manager at Brampton Chrysler and he wasn't sure so I ordered one through Transitowne in Buffalo for $430 + installation specifiying I needed drls, drove down and they installed it. Problem solved.
I logged in here recently because I wanted to check on the same situation for a 2008 which I'm going to buy and ended up here. I should have done this homework earlier,
wouldn't have saved me any money but would have had all the info.
So, my homework: Spoke to 2 Chrysler service managers whom I deal with and 2 CT service managers who used to work for Chrysler. Got similar but different answers to the effect that if they couldn't turn on the drls CT had a switch<lol> and Chrysler would figure it out. While we're on this, I will clarify the computer. I run a Data Centre. To me, any device, phone or otherwise that connects to something electronic, I refer to as a computer, some of you call it the OEM Tool, same thing, it is used to access and change the country code, not rocket science, just terminology.
So to continue, the original CT manager was right and wrong. I needed a new switch but it wasn't a standard or automatic issue, IT WAS A PART NUMBER for the headlight switch.
Spoke to my Chrysler parts dept whom I deal with.
For those of your who did the same homework, you would have found that there are 2 part #s for a 2005 and 2 part #s for a 2008.
The difference for a 2005:
#5098638AA is for an American car without DRL and they can't be turned on, OEM Tool or otherwise.
#5098639AA is for a Canadian car and the DRL can be turned on or maybe off, I don't know.
For a 2008, same part #s but also 6 others for exports to different countries for both years.
This also explained the occasional reference to export in the wiring manuals which I have and you'll see reference to the relays some of you have discussed.
I'm sure some of you have the manuals but I'll add a link for those who haven't found them.
Manuals:
Crossfire Repair Manuals
Regards,
Quality, not quantity.
Bob D
[quote=onehundred80]Whoa there Sunshine, I did some homework and I have found the cause of your misinformation. It's yourself.
Dated 06/09/2008
Originally Posted by Bob D
Thought I'd take a moment and introduce myself. I
joined up last week and have really enjoyed some of the threads.
I'm middle aged, live in Brampton, work in Mississauga, run a Data Centre.
Saw a Crossfire Coupe a couple of years ago and fell in love, but as it's a summer car, it had to be a Roadster. What can I say?
Flew down and picked up my 2005 black roadster, cedar interior, 6 spd in Virginia a week + ago (70F) and drove it back mainly on cruise. What a ride. Love the American divided highways. It was pure pleasure until I crossed and hit the QEW. Then I had to DRIVE!
Did the Import process myself, very easy to do, through American and Canadian Customs in 1/2 hour.
As to the bumpers, 8 km/hour is 5 mph and I didn't have to change anything.
My only cost at Canadian Tire, the RIV approved inspection site was to have the headlight module replaced with their generic module because the standard tranny comes with a U.S.A. headlight switch while the automatic comes with DRL. Cost parts and labout $243.00. On the automatic the Dealer just logs in and changes the country code.
As to warranty, I'm an hour from the border and had it transferred to a Buffalo ZIP code, spoke to a Buffalo Chrysler dealer who stated, It didn't matter where you live or have it registered. If you're over in the States, any dealer will service you under warranty. Cost $125 to transfer.
You can buy a bumper to bumper in Canada for $2500.00 and get it serviced anywhere you wish.
The double ** for the bumper on the import list is deceiving. I spoke to the RIV office and got the run around because they didn't know that the U.S. 5mph is equivalent to 8 kmh in Canada. Just ask at your local Canadian Tire first.
Good luck.
Bob D
joined up last week and have really enjoyed some of the threads.
I'm middle aged, live in Brampton, work in Mississauga, run a Data Centre.
Saw a Crossfire Coupe a couple of years ago and fell in love, but as it's a summer car, it had to be a Roadster. What can I say?
Flew down and picked up my 2005 black roadster, cedar interior, 6 spd in Virginia a week + ago (70F) and drove it back mainly on cruise. What a ride. Love the American divided highways. It was pure pleasure until I crossed and hit the QEW. Then I had to DRIVE!
Did the Import process myself, very easy to do, through American and Canadian Customs in 1/2 hour.
As to the bumpers, 8 km/hour is 5 mph and I didn't have to change anything.
My only cost at Canadian Tire, the RIV approved inspection site was to have the headlight module replaced with their generic module because the standard tranny comes with a U.S.A. headlight switch while the automatic comes with DRL. Cost parts and labout $243.00. On the automatic the Dealer just logs in and changes the country code.
As to warranty, I'm an hour from the border and had it transferred to a Buffalo ZIP code, spoke to a Buffalo Chrysler dealer who stated, It didn't matter where you live or have it registered. If you're over in the States, any dealer will service you under warranty. Cost $125 to transfer.
You can buy a bumper to bumper in Canada for $2500.00 and get it serviced anywhere you wish.
The double ** for the bumper on the import list is deceiving. I spoke to the RIV office and got the run around because they didn't know that the U.S. 5mph is equivalent to 8 kmh in Canada. Just ask at your local Canadian Tire first.
Good luck.
Bob D
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Re: Running Lights
We have had numerous Canadians change the US head light switch (Illumination Control Module) to the switch with the DRL feature. Not one has stated the part number of the old switch or the new switch.
What are the two numbers? Sparkie/bluecoupe?
The 2004 parts list shows part number 05098638 as having the DRL function. The 2005 list mentions this number but not that it has the DRL feature. This part number is not listed for the subsequent years 2006 and 2007.
Two numbers required, that's quality not quantity.
What are the two numbers? Sparkie/bluecoupe?
The 2004 parts list shows part number 05098638 as having the DRL function. The 2005 list mentions this number but not that it has the DRL feature. This part number is not listed for the subsequent years 2006 and 2007.
Two numbers required, that's quality not quantity.
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Re: Running Lights
Originally Posted by SparkieSRT6
Dave you're right about the DRL circuit not being documented. I have the hard copy service manuals and could not find it either. I will have to try to listen for a relay but it will be very difficult as it would happen at the same time as start up.
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Re: Running Lights
Originally Posted by liberty1
Tried to listen for the relay. Only thing I could here was the click in the light switch itself. My Jeep works the same way. DRL's donot come on until I put it in gear. With my wife's GenCoupe the DRL's come on as soon as you start it.
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Re: Running Lights
Originally Posted by onehundred80
The relay could be in the headlight switch. Simply changing the switch gives you DRL's, so the relay could be in there. Taking the switch apart a relay could possibly be taken out and no DRL's. I would not recommend this though with price these switches are.
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Re: Running Lights
Originally Posted by liberty1
Ok we need someone who is not afraid to take the switch apart.
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Re: Running Lights
I still have my US switch sitting on the workbench....I'll look at taking it apart next week when I have some time. Then I may attempt taking out and tearing apart the Cdn switch as I'm thinking that I might swap it out for no DRL's anyway. BUT not selling the CDN switch as I will keep it for future considerations.
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Re: Running Lights
Originally Posted by bluecoupe
I watched Rudy take Tonygg's apart to fix a misplaced contact. He did it in the hotel parking lot at WDC........absolutely fearless!
Tony looked nervous though.
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Re: Running Lights
Originally Posted by SparkieSRT6
I still have my US switch sitting on the workbench....I'll look at taking it apart next week when I have some time. Then I may attempt taking out and tearing apart the Cdn switch as I'm thinking that I might swap it out for no DRL's anyway. BUT not selling the CDN switch as I will keep it for future considerations.
