I want to use my fog lights as the unning lights instead of the headligts as it is now. I don't like the HIDs to be on as running lights. In Canada running lights are mandatory but I think the fog lights would be legal. Anyone have a suggestion that would allow me to make the change at areasonable cost or is it even possible. I understand that the OEM light switch on US Crossfires is different than the Canadian version????

 

There is a post this week that addresses this, so I'll look for it.
Edit.
Go to this post and from #12 down is specifically for your question. Read the whole post though.
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...tml#post573926
I'm not sure how you would get around the Canadian switch problem though, except to swap it for a US one with one of the Canadians mentioned in this thread who want the Canadian switch.

 

Quit spoon feedin' them, they'll never learn to fend for themselves!

 

Heres my original post regarding the whole foglight drl thingy. post #10 i dont know if it will have any more detail https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...tml#post530056

But the switched + is also a good place to wire up gauges and such if you want them to turn on when the key is turned. Ive just never liked the ideal of wiring stuff to the cig lighter. Yea its switched, but a heck of alot harder to get to.

 

This works when you have the US version of the switch, the OP has the Canadian switch.
Somehow the switch he has must be rewired not to activate the head lights when the car is put into drive or gear.

 

Contrary to the belief of some I am a nice guy.

 

Your right on, i totaly mis-read that he had the cnd switch.

Im trying to think back when i had the my switch out, if there were any spots for a snap in moduel or such. For the life of me i thought that there was a open plug connector for something to snap in. Or i could just be confused with a different car. Not to beat a horse to death, i really would like to investiate what the true difference beteen the US and CND switch. would be good just to find out how its setup inside, a good excuse to take stuff apart lol

 

Thanks guys for all the replies and so fast, that's why I like the club.....just to reiterate I have the Canadian version of the headlight switch and the headlights go on when you put the vehicle in drive and there is no way to turn then off like you guys in the US can with the US switch. The easy way is for me to swap out my Canadian switch for a US switch but that is an expensive solution and then again I have to set up the fog lights as running lights. If that is the only solution dose anyone have a US switch at a reasonable cost??? and maybe the solution for the fog lights,

Cheers......Rusty

 

I have a feeling that the Canadian headlights use a relay somehow. When you put it in gear the lights come on in a second but not instantly. This has to be triggered by a switch in the gear shift/parking brake area I suppose.
Disabling that switch would do the trick I'm thinking.
Does this switch trip a relay in the ICM (light switch)
With the switch disabled you would be free to do what you want.
I have found this gadget that allows auto operation of the high beams and it has a dimming feature in it. This way you would be using the regular halogens at a reduced power setting, this would save them from burning out too prematurely. My halogens lasted for 30,000 kilometers which was not bad I'm thinking.
Hamsar AUTOMATIC LOW-BEAM HEADLIGHT CONTROL - JCWhitney
It says low beams but why not hook it up to the high beams? I could of course be totally wrong and you cannot do that. Reduced power highs in the day should be OK.
DRL's are the front headlights, no rear lights are required.

 

Dave you are on to something. The DRL's in my SRT, an American spec car with a CDN headlight switch do not function exactly like the DRL's in my Limited, a CDN spec car with CDN headlight switch. In particular with the engine running, when I place the Limited in Park or Neutral the headlamps turn off and the rest of the running lights stay on. This is not the case for the SRT, when the engine is running all of the running lights including headlights are on regardless of the transmission gear.

 

Yes, my US car with Cdn switch is the same...... All lights on when it is started.

 

Haven't been on this site for awhile.
some info: an american car with a standard transmission does not have the capabilities of turning on daytime running lights as we are required to have (Toronto). I had to buy an automatic switch $540US and have them turned on with the computer.
That said: I have an american headlight switch for sale..reasonable
let me know
Bob D

 

If there is a relay somewhere you should be able to here it when the lights go on. I probably could not hear but someone with a keen sense of hearing should be able to.
I have not found a circuit anywhere that shows the DRL circuit. Maybe a European service manual has it.

 

Dave you're right about the DRL circuit not being documented. I have the hard copy service manuals and could not find it either. I will have to try to listen for a relay but it will be very difficult as it would happen at the same time as start up.

 

We are aware of the difference between US and Canadian cars and the imported Crossfire's need for the OEM switch change, the Crappy Tire $50 module or the module I mentioned above. Standard or manual they use the same switch.
There is no need to get a computer to do anything, change the switch and you are done. There is no computer involved, if there was we would be having more trouble.

 

take a chill pill pal!
do your homework. there is a difference and even with an automatic switch in an american car, you still need to login and turn the drl on.
people like you are what ruins a forum like this!

 

What, who, what???

 

Hi Bob,
There was no intent to insult you. Onehundred80 was stating factual information: My car is a US car. It now has the DRL via a swap of the US switch with a Cdn switch which I did myself. There is no computer programing required.

 

Whoa there Sunshine, I did some homework and I have found the cause of your misinformation. It's yourself.

Dated 06/09/2008
[quote=Bob D]
Thought I'd take a moment and introduce myself. I
joined up last week and have really enjoyed some of the threads.
I'm middle aged, live in Brampton, work in Mississauga, run a Data Centre.
Saw a Crossfire Coupe a couple of years ago and fell in love, but as it's a summer car, it had to be a Roadster. What can I say?
Flew down and picked up my 2005 black roadster, cedar interior, 6 spd in Virginia a week + ago (70F) and drove it back mainly on cruise. What a ride. Love the American divided highways. It was pure pleasure until I crossed and hit the QEW. Then I had to DRIVE!

Did the Import process myself, very easy to do, through American and Canadian Customs in 1/2 hour.
As to the bumpers, 8 km/hour is 5 mph and I didn't have to change anything.
My only cost at Canadian Tire, the RIV approved inspection site was to have the headlight module replaced with their generic module because the standard tranny comes with a U.S.A. headlight switch while the automatic comes with DRL. Cost parts and labout $243.00. On the automatic the Dealer just logs in and changes the country code.
As to warranty, I'm an hour from the border and had it transferred to a Buffalo ZIP code, spoke to a Buffalo Chrysler dealer who stated, It didn't matter where you live or have it registered. If you're over in the States, any dealer will service you under warranty. Cost $125 to transfer.

You can buy a bumper to bumper in Canada for $2500.00 and get it serviced anywhere you wish.
The double ** for the bumper on the import list is deceiving. I spoke to the RIV office and got the run around because they didn't know that the U.S. 5mph is equivalent to 8 kmh in Canada. Just ask at your local Canadian Tire first.
Good luck.
Bob D[quote]
Obviously your info is incorrect, and then you say that I am the type that ruins forums, my post count is quite high and the forum has managed to survive despite this high count - just.

 

It's not really hard or expensive to do daytime running lights. One way is to add a relay that 'switches' on with the ignition. The relay through circuit connects the lights you want to turn on to a fused + battery circuit. I took an easier route yet and tied the low beams to another circuit with an Add-A-Circuit fuse tap. It's been that way a couple of years now to help keep the headlights dry with no issues. I would provide more details, but my Cross is still in winter storage and I would need to get to it to remember the info.