Chrysler reps reasoning for vin specific coverage of vert tops
Ok get this ........Spoke to Jaden again today, and he said he has done some more research, and that my car came from a different production line, in Michigan, than the ones affected by the recall, which used a different type of glue. WTF ! !I told him that as far as i knew they were all assembled by Karmann in Germany, he says not according to his sources ...........
These are the people we are having to deal with, what chance do we have....is it time for a class action ???
These are the people we are having to deal with, what chance do we have....is it time for a class action ???
Originally Posted by magredvet
Ok get this ........Spoke to Jaden again today, and he said he has done some more research, and that my car came from a different production line, in Michigan, than the ones affected by the recall, which used a different type of glue. WTF ! !I told him that as far as i knew they were all assembled by Karmann in Germany, he says not according to his sources ...........
These are the people we are having to deal with, what chance do we have....is it time for a class action ???
These are the people we are having to deal with, what chance do we have....is it time for a class action ???
Maybe, maybe not. But she didn't "pass the word".
Keep at it!
Originally Posted by maxcichon
In fact I was fed the same line of horseshit by Kimberly. I thought I had straightened her out.
Maybe, maybe not. But she didn't "pass the word".
Keep at it!
Maybe, maybe not. But she didn't "pass the word".
Keep at it!
I have seen several of these cars, actually bid on one back in 2006. Had a tilt steering wheel with the Penta star on it.
Other than that....I don't think anything like our Crossies were produced this side of the Atlantic.
Keep at it please because all of us are suffering the fold failure in our tops. I'm still under warranty but worry this won't qualify.
Got my letter from Chrysler last week. Had to bring the car in for other items and service adviser hadn't known about recall. Glass fell out of my top over the summer. Brought it to the service mgr. Said they would order it but didn't know how long it would take to get and then they send the car out to have top replaced. No problems for me and hopefully the top will come in sooner than later. I hope you others can get straightened out because I fixed my window with Gorilla Glue but it looks like crap.
Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
I'm still under warranty but worry this won't qualify.
That's disturbing news John. Thetop and it's mechanisms are the only reason I bought the extended warranty.
Of course the current Chrysler Corporation is not the old company, but man, this is so different.
When my wife's minivan went in they couldn't do enough to satisfy her with warranty work. Same with my Dodge one ton. Or my son's big wheelchair van.
Now they do anything to opt out. If it is just on the Crossfire, maybe they will get away with it but,,,,,,
As for me, a rabid MOPAR guy.....
The minivan is a 1999, the Wheelchair van is a 2002 and the truck is a 1995. We will be searching for new vehicles soon and Chrysler is going way down on the list.
All because of this kinda crap.
GM is in the Tank with the goverment. And now we find out Onstar will track your vehicle even if you unsubscirbe.
Looks like I'm gonna check out FORD.
I hope Nissan builds a decent one ton soon....
Of course the current Chrysler Corporation is not the old company, but man, this is so different.
When my wife's minivan went in they couldn't do enough to satisfy her with warranty work. Same with my Dodge one ton. Or my son's big wheelchair van.
Now they do anything to opt out. If it is just on the Crossfire, maybe they will get away with it but,,,,,,
As for me, a rabid MOPAR guy.....
The minivan is a 1999, the Wheelchair van is a 2002 and the truck is a 1995. We will be searching for new vehicles soon and Chrysler is going way down on the list.
All because of this kinda crap.
GM is in the Tank with the goverment. And now we find out Onstar will track your vehicle even if you unsubscirbe.
Looks like I'm gonna check out FORD.
I hope Nissan builds a decent one ton soon....
Last edited by Franc Rauscher; Sep 21, 2011 at 10:26 AM.
Kinda hacks me off too, as I have 4 Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep vehicles (if you count the Crossfires), but just the other day I had two survey's to fill out, about my opinion of the Ram, and after my contact with the service rep, one about my experience with them. Of course I let them have it about how I was dissatisfied, but I wonder if it really makes a difference ........
Trouble is I HATE Fords .............
Trouble is I HATE Fords .............
Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
That's disturbing news John. Thetop and it's mechanisms are the only reason I bought the extended warranty.
I guess I am one of the lucky ones. I took my 2005 into the dealer here in Gilbert, AZ and have been working with Judy at Chrysler, she was very helpful. I will get a new top no charge. You can't ask for more than that. Hope it is a new style to take care of the original problems.
Dale
Dale
Originally Posted by arejohn
If the CF has been built in more than one location one of the first few digits of the vin should be different.
It would be interesting to see what the first digit is on those 5 SLK's made over here. Conventional wisdom would say a 1 but who knows?
Well you may hate fords but i have numerous, and my 04 t-bird has the esp from ford and i don't know if the top is covered but i know just about everything else is unlikethe chrysler warrentys. My wife has the Crossfire and she loves it, only problem is she can't drive it right now cause the rear window is in the garage.
Originally Posted by magredvet
Kinda hacks me off too, as I have 4 Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep vehicles (if you count the Crossfires), but just the other day I had two survey's to fill out, about my opinion of the Ram, and after my contact with the service rep, one about my experience with them. Of course I let them have it about how I was dissatisfied, but I wonder if it really makes a difference ........
Trouble is I HATE Fords .............
Trouble is I HATE Fords .............
'Well you may hate fords but i have numerous'
Each to their own, but I worked as an engineer for Ford Motor Company in the early eighties, and things I saw would make yer flesh creep .....but that's all off topic
Each to their own, but I worked as an engineer for Ford Motor Company in the early eighties, and things I saw would make yer flesh creep .....but that's all off topic
Each to their own, but I worked as an engineer for Ford Motor Company in the early eighties, and things I saw would make yer flesh creep .....but that's all off topic[/quote]
Go off topic.........Due tell, tell it all
Go off topic.........Due tell, tell it all
I'd get a CARFAX or similar run on the vin. The first thing it would show is that the vehicle arrived in Maryland, well before going to a dealership in either the US or Canada!
Does anyone know what vin#'s are "being considered for support" by Chrysler at this time?
Does anyone know what vin#'s are "being considered for support" by Chrysler at this time?
Don't the stickers in the doors flat out say that the car was assembled in Germany?
As for having insider info on Ford in the early '80s, you just have to know that things are a wee bit different almost 30 years later. I'm sure there were horror stories at GM and Chrysler back then, too, and maybe from most import manufacturers as well. Let's face it, compared to today's cars most domestic cars from the '80s were borderline crap. Remember, those were the days when the wildest Corvette you could get had a whopping 180HP coming from it's roaring 8 cylinders.
Those were the days of Chrysler K-Cars and GM X-Bodies - vehicles destined for the scrap heap of automotive history (even if the K basically saved Chrysler back then). My dad was an engineer at Chrysler his whole career so I'm sort of a MOPAR guy, but I'm seriously considering a Ford for my next daily driver. Having had the opportunity to attend the AutoWeek Magazine Fantasy Camp the past couple of years and drive a whole bunch of cars back to back, there's a lot to like from Ford at the moment. And I've never been a Ford guy at all. But I honestly don't see me ever giving any of my hard earned money to GM unless they make a lot of changes to what I see as completely uninspired vehicles (Caddy CTS line being an exception).
As for having insider info on Ford in the early '80s, you just have to know that things are a wee bit different almost 30 years later. I'm sure there were horror stories at GM and Chrysler back then, too, and maybe from most import manufacturers as well. Let's face it, compared to today's cars most domestic cars from the '80s were borderline crap. Remember, those were the days when the wildest Corvette you could get had a whopping 180HP coming from it's roaring 8 cylinders.
Those were the days of Chrysler K-Cars and GM X-Bodies - vehicles destined for the scrap heap of automotive history (even if the K basically saved Chrysler back then). My dad was an engineer at Chrysler his whole career so I'm sort of a MOPAR guy, but I'm seriously considering a Ford for my next daily driver. Having had the opportunity to attend the AutoWeek Magazine Fantasy Camp the past couple of years and drive a whole bunch of cars back to back, there's a lot to like from Ford at the moment. And I've never been a Ford guy at all. But I honestly don't see me ever giving any of my hard earned money to GM unless they make a lot of changes to what I see as completely uninspired vehicles (Caddy CTS line being an exception).
Where the Final Assembly took place can be a funny thing. My 1969 Alfa Duetto Spyder for example, should never have existed in North America. It couldn't meet the SPICA standards for polution in Cali. So it was basically sidelined in 1969 until the SPICA Fuel Injection of the 1970 models met the standard for entry into the US. This was the case with virtually every car made outside of Canada or the US in 1969 that did not meet the emerging pollution standards.
Then, late in the year, some bright Alfa exec in NYC realized that an auto-trade pact existed between Canada and the US that year. (remember all those Camaros that we built in Oshawa?). Regardless, he ordered 7 vehicles as mine canaries and had them sent to Montreal where the twin Webers were installed. Ergo, final assembly in Canada! Two sold in Canada, five went to the US under the auto trade pact agreement, since under the agreement, vehicles built in Canada (again with the Camaros!), were exempt from the pollution laws. All nice and legal - but should normally never have existed.
I think the key to proving where the top was from is to prove that it landed in Maryland as is the case with virtually every XF in North America!
Then, late in the year, some bright Alfa exec in NYC realized that an auto-trade pact existed between Canada and the US that year. (remember all those Camaros that we built in Oshawa?). Regardless, he ordered 7 vehicles as mine canaries and had them sent to Montreal where the twin Webers were installed. Ergo, final assembly in Canada! Two sold in Canada, five went to the US under the auto trade pact agreement, since under the agreement, vehicles built in Canada (again with the Camaros!), were exempt from the pollution laws. All nice and legal - but should normally never have existed.
I think the key to proving where the top was from is to prove that it landed in Maryland as is the case with virtually every XF in North America!
Last edited by PitMarshall; Sep 27, 2011 at 07:56 PM.
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